11 Years

**Sean P Kelly** · 08-01-2008, 11:44 PM

I was out of town this week and missed SMBHQ's 11th.

I may still post something if I come up with a good idea.

Irby · 08-01-2008, 11:50 PM

Ah, congrats on eleven years Sean!

Chop Chop Master Onion · 08-02-2008, 01:03 AM

Eleven years?

You mean I've been visiting SMBHQ for almost eleven years now?

Gage LaMay · 08-02-2008, 08:23 AM

The birthday completely slipped my mind.

But a happy 11th nonetheless!!

Metal Man · 08-02-2008, 04:16 PM

Each year since the last NC comic has progressed the same.

The layout no longer crashes my browser, I give it that; however it takes up a lot of vertical space. It may be wise to double it up again, just as in the last 'gold standard' layout SMBHQ had.

If SMBHQ deserves anything as a birthday present, it would be a refresh. Pages and pages of ancient content rot slowly as the world moves on; user made sections slowly cease to exist entirely. The site that Kyle and Jay built is gone; not because it has been destroyed, but simply its time has gone by.

But it is not my place to tell the site what to do. Long ago I learned that attempting to force anything on SMBHQ simply caused it to backlash in the opposite direction. Hence, I simply note that attempting to build a community of people around the site again would work more surely than anything else to rebuild the site;

For each site is a reflection of the people who maintain it, and currently I see the reflections of long-gone, past images of Kyle and Jay, the current image of Sean, the faded images of past fans, and the anomaly that is SSS, the last standing fan-based section on the site.

Do not fear any further commentary for me; my time for anything else but the occasional SSS match (and other SSS updates, as it has not lost my faith like SMBHQ has) is over. Destroy or remove this comment if you wish, Sean; mock this all you want, Jay; continue in silent absence, Kyle; my previous fire and anger was at SMBHQ not being something that, as a child, I had made it out to be, and which it had once been.

A site supported by the vivid humor of NC's comics, balanced by the quaint functionality and factual information Kyle provided, and later complemented by a rainbow of fan-maintained sites.

My anger at Sean Kelly was unfair; even if he was Jay or Kyle, he could not be both; his error, in my mind, is simply rejecting and ignoring help, and allowing his personal problems to dominate site work.

Now there is no Jay or Kyle, and an unfocused, overworked Sean alone; my previous wrath is replaced with simple apathy. The worst thing I can do is what I will do; cease to care about anything SMBHQ related besides that one thing which refuses to let me down: SSS.

I leave you, Sean, and anyone else who reads this hear to the oblivion of the near-silent SMBHQ forum. Not that I have particularly been around SMBHQ's main site or done anything for it, sans the SSS work... but I wished to bring an official end to my unofficial "attack Sean Kelly" phase; fueled by an irrational belief that SMBHQ's problems could be made by only one man, they were.

The whole site's broken, not just him. He's just trying to do something about it, and, at least for now, is somewhat swamped.

Although such apathy is the most destructive thing, it will have one benefit; I do not believe Sean will have anybody left to get angry at any more... that is probably the best I can do for SMBHQ besides my updates for SSS.

(Of course, this has no relation to my relatively active VGF posting trend, as I continue to post elsewhere on VGF uneffected. VGF may have no real functional main site, but the rest functions well enough... for my taste.)

**Sean P Kelly** · 08-02-2008, 06:22 PM

Wow, you are talking like SMBHQ has an incurable disease.

However, truth be told:

Until I get to redoing them in the new format, the original game pages are still fine
Other than that only the "Mario 101" and "Plot" pages are probably so out of date something needs to be done.

SMBHQ is doing just fine. Sure, there aren't many posts on this forum and nobody goes to the chat room, but sadly that always was the case.

I still get plenty of e-mail submissions for the site, and the site continues to have a steady traffic flow that I only wish I had on my movie blog.

So, yeah SMBHQ is OK.

**Perrin Aybara** · 08-02-2008, 08:02 PM

That was way too emo for me, MM.

I thought your whole pissy thing against Sean was over months ago. Why even bring it back up?

Personally, I thought your whole post was lame and unnecessary.

-jay

Demonic Lemonade · 08-02-2008, 08:14 PM

stop fighting

be happy that your website survived 11 years

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 08-02-2008, 10:18 PM

NO THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE!

I BELIEVE IT'S TIME FOR A FLAME WAR

*Sets Fourm on Fire*

Gage LaMay · 08-03-2008, 05:44 PM

I don't see anything wrong with SMBHQ right now. Kyle and Sean have said many times publicly they have to focus a lot on their personal lives (jobs, college, etc.). Jay is doing the same I imagine. It's not that they don't care, Kyle said many times "SMBHQ won't pay the bills."

Maybe it's not apparent anyone visits the site as there's not a lot of posts in the forum, but look at its site meter. SMBHQ still receives a good amount of daily visits.

I don't think its time has "gone by". There are fans who've yet to discover this site. New ones every day.

On the other hand maybe it would be good for the site to get revamped content and such. Would be nice, but it's not totally necessary. Though if you had these feelings, why didn't you act on them when you became Co-Webmaster last year?

wariovswario · 08-04-2008, 12:03 AM

10,555 visits this week. And it only just turned Monday. That says something.

Chop Chop Master Onion · 08-04-2008, 03:41 AM

Well, SMBHQ is still, and always will be, the greatest (and probably oldest) Mario fan community on the interwebs. Trust me, MM, SMBHQ isn't going anywhere bad. It's still up there, we just need to keep it alive. I won't let it die, and I know there are other people here who would do the same.

I've been visiting SMBHQ since I was 7.

As lame as it sounds, it's become a part of my life.

Gage LaMay · 08-04-2008, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarmy Vent

Well, SMBHQ is still, and always will be, the greatest (and probably oldest) Mario fan community on the interwebs.

The Mushroom Kingdom is about five months older than SMBHQ. So not technically the oldest, but close. :P Five months isn't a big deal, but I just felt like posting something. Ahem.

Chop Chop Master Onion · 08-04-2008, 03:08 PM

DAMN YOU TMK.

Eh, I'd forgotten which one was older. I knew it was close.

Angry_Sun_Nintendoland · 08-21-2008, 07:27 PM

I love SMBHQ, great site. I go there a lot just for the Nostalgia feel.

The one thing I don't like, is how they ignore Nintendolands request for affiliation. I think Nintendoland was made before either of them. Maybe...

Either way, great site, it does look inactive, but maybe I'm not watching the counter.

**Sean P Kelly** · 08-21-2008, 09:07 PM

^ I guess that Mario Mania link that has been on the front page for years (and longer on the links page) is invisible too you.

Angry_Sun_Nintendoland · 08-21-2008, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean P Kelly

^ I guess that Mario Mania link that has been on the front page for years (and longer on the links page) is invisible too you.

No, I've seen it there this whole time actually, and I like it there.

But it's not really affiliating when I don't have your button on our site

Plus, that is the Mario Mania link, not Nintendoland

But if you are willing to switch that to

or one of our real buttons, I would gladly add you to our front page affiliates list.

It's up to you

~Angry

08-01-2008, 11:44 PM	#1
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,393 Thanks: 10 Thanked 46 Times in 36 Posts Points: 207,602.73 Bank: 152,388.02 Total Points: 359,990.75 Donate	11 Years I was out of town this week and missed SMBHQ's 11th. I may still post something if I come up with a good idea.

08-02-2008, 06:22 PM	#6
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,393 Thanks: 10 Thanked 46 Times in 36 Posts Points: 207,602.73 Bank: 152,388.02 Total Points: 359,990.75 Donate	Wow, you are talking like SMBHQ has an incurable disease. However, truth be told: Until I get to redoing them in the new format, the original game pages are still fine Other than that only the "Mario 101" and "Plot" pages are probably so out of date something needs to be done. SMBHQ is doing just fine. Sure, there aren't many posts on this forum and nobody goes to the chat room, but sadly that always was the case. I still get plenty of e-mail submissions for the site, and the site continues to have a steady traffic flow that I only wish I had on my movie blog. So, yeah SMBHQ is OK.

08-04-2008, 12:03 AM	#11
wariovswario Godly Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 4,627 Thanks: 92 Thanked 98 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 755.38 Bank: 981,041.33 Total Points: 981,796.71 Donate	10,555 visits this week. And it only just turned Monday. That says something. __________________ Click here to level up my card!

08-01-2008, 11:50 PM	#2
Irby Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Barack and Roll Gender: Posts: 8,346 Thanks: 479 Thanked 180 Times in 150 Posts Blog Entries: 12 Points: 31,789.64 Bank: 39,783.58 Total Points: 71,573.22 Donate	Ah, congrats on eleven years Sean!

08-02-2008, 01:03 AM	#3
Chop Chop Master Onion KICK, PUNCH, IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Either UN's bed or Andre's bed. Gender: Posts: 13,965 Thanks: 982 Thanked 1,691 Times in 809 Posts Points: 58.31 Bank: 123,250.75 Total Points: 123,309.06 Donate	Eleven years? You mean I've been visiting SMBHQ for almost eleven years now?

08-02-2008, 08:23 AM	#4
Gage LaMay Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Home Gender: Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 4,156.20 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,156.20 Donate	The birthday completely slipped my mind. But a happy 11th nonetheless!!

08-02-2008, 04:16 PM	#5
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 7,034 Thanks: 77 Thanked 265 Times in 175 Posts Points: 8,513.29 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 8,513.29 Donate	Each year since the last NC comic has progressed the same. The layout no longer crashes my browser, I give it that; however it takes up a lot of vertical space. It may be wise to double it up again, just as in the last 'gold standard' layout SMBHQ had. If SMBHQ deserves anything as a birthday present, it would be a refresh. Pages and pages of ancient content rot slowly as the world moves on; user made sections slowly cease to exist entirely. The site that Kyle and Jay built is gone; not because it has been destroyed, but simply its time has gone by. But it is not my place to tell the site what to do. Long ago I learned that attempting to force anything on SMBHQ simply caused it to backlash in the opposite direction. Hence, I simply note that attempting to build a community of people around the site again would work more surely than anything else to rebuild the site; For each site is a reflection of the people who maintain it, and currently I see the reflections of long-gone, past images of Kyle and Jay, the current image of Sean, the faded images of past fans, and the anomaly that is SSS, the last standing fan-based section on the site. Do not fear any further commentary for me; my time for anything else but the occasional SSS match (and other SSS updates, as it has not lost my faith like SMBHQ has) is over. Destroy or remove this comment if you wish, Sean; mock this all you want, Jay; continue in silent absence, Kyle; my previous fire and anger was at SMBHQ not being something that, as a child, I had made it out to be, and which it had once been. A site supported by the vivid humor of NC's comics, balanced by the quaint functionality and factual information Kyle provided, and later complemented by a rainbow of fan-maintained sites. My anger at Sean Kelly was unfair; even if he was Jay or Kyle, he could not be both; his error, in my mind, is simply rejecting and ignoring help, and allowing his personal problems to dominate site work. Now there is no Jay or Kyle, and an unfocused, overworked Sean alone; my previous wrath is replaced with simple apathy. The worst thing I can do is what I will do; cease to care about anything SMBHQ related besides that one thing which refuses to let me down: SSS. I leave you, Sean, and anyone else who reads this hear to the oblivion of the near-silent SMBHQ forum. Not that I have particularly been around SMBHQ's main site or done anything for it, sans the SSS work... but I wished to bring an official end to my unofficial "attack Sean Kelly" phase; fueled by an irrational belief that SMBHQ's problems could be made by only one man, they were. The whole site's broken, not just him. He's just trying to do something about it, and, at least for now, is somewhat swamped. Although such apathy is the most destructive thing, it will have one benefit; I do not believe Sean will have anybody left to get angry at any more... that is probably the best I can do for SMBHQ besides my updates for SSS. (Of course, this has no relation to my relatively active VGF posting trend, as I continue to post elsewhere on VGF uneffected. VGF may have no real functional main site, but the rest functions well enough... for my taste.)

08-02-2008, 08:02 PM	#7
Perrin Aybara LLLUUUCCCCCCAAA!!! Ban HotD Join Date: Apr 1999 Location: Alone....so terribly alone... Some... where... out... there... dies Gender: Posts: 11,888 Thanks: 191 Thanked 431 Times in 204 Posts Points: 47,257.42 Bank: 263,453.38 Total Points: 310,710.80 Donate	That was way too emo for me, MM. I thought your whole pissy thing against Sean was over months ago. Why even bring it back up? Personally, I thought your whole post was lame and unnecessary. -jay

08-02-2008, 10:18 PM	#9
STOP LOOKING AT ME Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: YOU SAID THAT YOU KNEW ME AND I BELIEVED YOU DID Gender: Posts: 9,247 Thanks: 267 Thanked 585 Times in 430 Posts Blog Entries: 7 Points: 6,597.14 Bank: 74,653.97 Total Points: 81,251.10 Donate	NO THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE! I BELIEVE IT'S TIME FOR A FLAME WAR Sets Fourm on Fire

08-03-2008, 05:44 PM	#10
Gage LaMay Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Home Gender: Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 4,156.20 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,156.20 Donate	I don't see anything wrong with SMBHQ right now. Kyle and Sean have said many times publicly they have to focus a lot on their personal lives (jobs, college, etc.). Jay is doing the same I imagine. It's not that they don't care, Kyle said many times "SMBHQ won't pay the bills." Maybe it's not apparent anyone visits the site as there's not a lot of posts in the forum, but look at its site meter. SMBHQ still receives a good amount of daily visits. I don't think its time has "gone by". There are fans who've yet to discover this site. New ones every day. On the other hand maybe it would be good for the site to get revamped content and such. Would be nice, but it's not totally necessary. Though if you had these feelings, why didn't you act on them when you became Co-Webmaster last year?

08-04-2008, 03:41 AM	#12
Chop Chop Master Onion KICK, PUNCH, IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Either UN's bed or Andre's bed. Gender: Posts: 13,965 Thanks: 982 Thanked 1,691 Times in 809 Posts Points: 58.31 Bank: 123,250.75 Total Points: 123,309.06 Donate	Well, SMBHQ is still, and always will be, the greatest (and probably oldest) Mario fan community on the interwebs. Trust me, MM, SMBHQ isn't going anywhere bad. It's still up there, we just need to keep it alive. I won't let it die, and I know there are other people here who would do the same. I've been visiting SMBHQ since I was 7. As lame as it sounds, it's become a part of my life.

08-04-2008, 03:08 PM	#14
Chop Chop Master Onion KICK, PUNCH, IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Either UN's bed or Andre's bed. Gender: Posts: 13,965 Thanks: 982 Thanked 1,691 Times in 809 Posts Points: 58.31 Bank: 123,250.75 Total Points: 123,309.06 Donate	DAMN YOU TMK. Eh, I'd forgotten which one was older. I knew it was close.

08-21-2008, 07:27 PM	#15
Angry_Sun_Nintendoland Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Location: The Dry Dry Desert. Gender: Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 4,062.71 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,062.71 Donate	I love SMBHQ, great site. I go there a lot just for the Nostalgia feel. The one thing I don't like, is how they ignore Nintendolands request for affiliation. I think Nintendoland was made before either of them. Maybe... Either way, great site, it does look inactive, but maybe I'm not watching the counter.

08-21-2008, 09:07 PM	#16
Sean P Kelly SMBHQ Mod Movies Mod Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Gender: Posts: 3,393 Thanks: 10 Thanked 46 Times in 36 Posts Points: 207,602.73 Bank: 152,388.02 Total Points: 359,990.75 Donate	^ I guess that Mario Mania link that has been on the front page for years (and longer on the links page) is invisible too you.