Toy Fair 2010: Chrono Trigger Toys

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-24-2010, 07:25 PM

Chrono Trigger Toys - Square Enix - Toy Fair 2010 - UGO.com

Since Chrono Trigger is a Playstation franchise, I thought I'd post this here and maybe spark some more conversation about Chrono Trigger.

I notice that Square continually fiddles with Chrono Trigger, often releasing something in a timely manner. But why never a game? I find it strange that they even have any interest in the series outside of games, as when with most "dead" franchises they are usually completely forgotten.

Any thoughts? And is anyone picking these figurines up?

**X-3** · 03-24-2010, 07:28 PM

I think they just like teasing people. Like Sega with Nights awhile back. And Nintendo with some characters in Smash Bros.

But what of the RPG forum!?

Jailbreaker · 04-02-2010, 01:37 PM

Bump.

*Waits patiently for Chrono Break*

Panfan · 04-02-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

Chrono Trigger is a Playstation franchise

wait...

what

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 04-02-2010, 06:51 PM

^ What I meant is that its sequel originally debuted on Playstation, and Chrono Trigger was even on their system. So why can't we even get Chrono Cross on the damn PSN yet? It also leads me to believe a sequel may be released for PS if it comes out.

Panfan · 04-03-2010, 10:19 AM

FFXIII was on xbox

final fantasy is an xbox franchise

***Cosmonautical*** · 04-03-2010, 10:40 AM

So did they make a Gato action figure or not?

Zaden · 04-04-2010, 01:19 AM

Nope. No Chrono Trigger conversation. Just this:

Edit: Holy Elf Ears, Batman!

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 04-09-2010, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canine Pepilepsy

FFXIII was on xbox

final fantasy is an xbox franchise

Multi-Platform brah.

***Cosmonautical*** · 04-10-2010, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

Multi-Platform brah.

Hence, it's not a playstation or xbox or nintendo franchise, it's multi-platform. Saying it's a PS franchise leaves the reader with the implication that it's only released on that system series. If you wanted to be accurate, it's a Square franchise and it goes to the highest bidder. If there isn't a highest bidder, they go multi-platform. That's being anal, but you're bound to run into people everywhere on the net that are selective about their wording.

***Ace Mercury*** · 04-10-2010, 02:01 PM

Squeenix doesn't know how to make another Chrono Trigger. That cultural technology is lost, like how NASA forgot how to build rockets to go to the moon.

Man, this stuff is deep. I've been thinking for the past fifteen minutes, and I can't put into words why they can't. I think it's a combination of factors:

Big-budgets discourage risky "fun" games
Companies now cater to idiots
Companies focus on the wrong things that sell games (graphics, gratuitous violence/sexuality)
Story writers are getting too serious about details
Story writers are getting too angsty
There is too much story baggage in the series they are writing in
Developers think more complexity is good

***Cosmonautical*** · 04-10-2010, 11:12 PM

Yeah, I'll agree in part to that. Wrong time and place for it to happen, really. Biggest thing IMO is devs seem to imagine they're pulling bigger numbers than the original audience brought. They're sincerely not, outside of multi-platform releases, so why not cater to a more clever audience?

But the story density problem is there, more than anything. The simple stories have been told, so devs are going the safe route and building complexities that can't be mistaken for one another but fail to reach the same scope. A sequel to Chrono Trigger isn't possible in the same universe. They should create an alternate version of the same game if they want to tap into a similar feeling, but they would probably keep all the wrong elements, anyway.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 04-11-2010, 05:38 AM

Well, I was really just going off of the fact that Chrono Cross was PS1 exclusive, but you're right AI.

Square admits inability to create towns on 360/PS3 so I honestly think the Wii should be home to any home-console remakes like CT/CC and FF7.

Jailbreaker · 04-11-2010, 10:32 AM

Hmm... mebbey, in 10-15 years, I'll have my own game company and can buy the rights to the Chronos... remake them, and make Chrono break.

Not that it'll happen. But still.

***Ace Mercury*** · 04-11-2010, 11:22 AM

^^ Really? What sort of problems was Squeenix having with the 360 and PS3 that the Wii doesn't have?

I think the problem stems with the lack of creative vision breaking through into a 100+ member team. Once you have to create a Final Fantasy-sized game on a current generation console, you need teams that large. It's just so very hard to co-ordinate that team with one unifying vision.

***Cosmonautical*** · 04-13-2010, 04:12 AM

Maybe they expressed a disatisfaction with creating small, scale-representation towns when the system is now fully capable of portraying a bustling metropolis? In the sense that it could take even hundreds years of man-hours to complete a full-scale representation of a city, I could see that as representing a competitive problem. The 360 and PS3 already represent that problem, as is, with the cost of the production being driven through the roof by demand for high-quality art and complex software.

***Ace Mercury*** · 04-13-2010, 07:23 AM

So does that mean Squeenix developers are really better off with limited hardware?

I think this ties in with the "cater to idiots" reason; idiots will not purchase a game that does not use their console to the extreme. Their marketing people have done focus groups or whatever.

It's either that, or Squeenix developers shouldn't be given too much power. The most acclaimed FF games are FF6 (still on a cartridge) and FF7 (the first-gen CD). "Art through adversity" maybe?

Metal Man · 04-16-2010, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

Chrono Trigger Toys - Square Enix - Toy Fair 2010 - UGO.com

Since Chrono Trigger is a Playstation franchise, I thought I'd post this here and maybe spark some more conversation about Chrono Trigger.

I notice that Square continually fiddles with Chrono Trigger, often releasing something in a timely manner. But why never a game? I find it strange that they even have any interest in the series outside of games, as when with most "dead" franchises they are usually completely forgotten.

Any thoughts? And is anyone picking these figurines up?

Given how they C&D all fangames of Chrono Trigger the minute they happen, it would seem they fear it would threaten their bottom line for anyone to use it, as apparently their nex-gen shiny games couldn't compete with a limited distribution rom hack of a 20ish year old game.

03-24-2010, 07:25 PM	#1
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Toy Fair 2010: Chrono Trigger Toys Chrono Trigger Toys - Square Enix - Toy Fair 2010 - UGO.com Since Chrono Trigger is a Playstation franchise, I thought I'd post this here and maybe spark some more conversation about Chrono Trigger. I notice that Square continually fiddles with Chrono Trigger, often releasing something in a timely manner. But why never a game? I find it strange that they even have any interest in the series outside of games, as when with most "dead" franchises they are usually completely forgotten. Any thoughts? And is anyone picking these figurines up?

04-10-2010, 02:01 PM	#11
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Squeenix doesn't know how to make another Chrono Trigger. That cultural technology is lost, like how NASA forgot how to build rockets to go to the moon. Man, this stuff is deep. I've been thinking for the past fifteen minutes, and I can't put into words why they can't. I think it's a combination of factors: Big-budgets discourage risky "fun" games Companies now cater to idiots Companies focus on the wrong things that sell games (graphics, gratuitous violence/sexuality) Story writers are getting too serious about details Story writers are getting too angsty There is too much story baggage in the series they are writing in Developers think more complexity is good

03-24-2010, 07:28 PM	#2
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	I think they just like teasing people. Like Sega with Nights awhile back. And Nintendo with some characters in Smash Bros. But what of the RPG forum!?

04-02-2010, 01:37 PM	#3
Jailbreaker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Not in jail anymore, yay! Gender: Posts: 3,482 Thanks: 1,074 Thanked 185 Times in 118 Posts	Bump. Waits patiently for Chrono Break

04-02-2010, 06:51 PM	#5
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ What I meant is that its sequel originally debuted on Playstation, and Chrono Trigger was even on their system. So why can't we even get Chrono Cross on the damn PSN yet? It also leads me to believe a sequel may be released for PS if it comes out.

04-03-2010, 10:19 AM	#6
Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,251 Times in 1,339 Posts Blog Entries: 15	FFXIII was on xbox final fantasy is an xbox franchise

04-03-2010, 10:40 AM	#7
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	So did they make a Gato action figure or not?

04-04-2010, 01:19 AM	#8
Zaden Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: in the beak of a mighty condor Gender: Posts: 991 Thanks: 273 Thanked 88 Times in 51 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Nope. No Chrono Trigger conversation. Just this: Edit: Holy Elf Ears, Batman!

04-10-2010, 11:12 PM	#12
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Yeah, I'll agree in part to that. Wrong time and place for it to happen, really. Biggest thing IMO is devs seem to imagine they're pulling bigger numbers than the original audience brought. They're sincerely not, outside of multi-platform releases, so why not cater to a more clever audience? But the story density problem is there, more than anything. The simple stories have been told, so devs are going the safe route and building complexities that can't be mistaken for one another but fail to reach the same scope. A sequel to Chrono Trigger isn't possible in the same universe. They should create an alternate version of the same game if they want to tap into a similar feeling, but they would probably keep all the wrong elements, anyway.

04-11-2010, 05:38 AM	#13
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Well, I was really just going off of the fact that Chrono Cross was PS1 exclusive, but you're right AI. Square admits inability to create towns on 360/PS3 so I honestly think the Wii should be home to any home-console remakes like CT/CC and FF7.

04-11-2010, 10:32 AM	#14
Jailbreaker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Not in jail anymore, yay! Gender: Posts: 3,482 Thanks: 1,074 Thanked 185 Times in 118 Posts	Hmm... mebbey, in 10-15 years, I'll have my own game company and can buy the rights to the Chronos... remake them, and make Chrono break. Not that it'll happen. But still.

04-11-2010, 11:22 AM	#15
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^^ Really? What sort of problems was Squeenix having with the 360 and PS3 that the Wii doesn't have? I think the problem stems with the lack of creative vision breaking through into a 100+ member team. Once you have to create a Final Fantasy-sized game on a current generation console, you need teams that large. It's just so very hard to co-ordinate that team with one unifying vision.

04-13-2010, 04:12 AM	#16
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Maybe they expressed a disatisfaction with creating small, scale-representation towns when the system is now fully capable of portraying a bustling metropolis? In the sense that it could take even hundreds years of man-hours to complete a full-scale representation of a city, I could see that as representing a competitive problem. The 360 and PS3 already represent that problem, as is, with the cost of the production being driven through the roof by demand for high-quality art and complex software.

04-13-2010, 07:23 AM	#17
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	So does that mean Squeenix developers are really better off with limited hardware? I think this ties in with the "cater to idiots" reason; idiots will not purchase a game that does not use their console to the extreme. Their marketing people have done focus groups or whatever. It's either that, or Squeenix developers shouldn't be given too much power. The most acclaimed FF games are FF6 (still on a cartridge) and FF7 (the first-gen CD). "Art through adversity" maybe?