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Old 09-20-2006, 09:58 PM   #21
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Why haven't I said anything about TO or any other league jackasses? BECAUSE THIS TOPIC ISN'T ABOUT THEM, IT'S ABOUT CHAD FREEKIN JOHNSON. I never stated an opinion one way or the other about those other players.

I didn't blame Chad for anything related to the Browns, that's the curse's fault. I just hate Chad.
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:59 PM   #22
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What curse? And I'm bringing up TO for a good reason.

To show you what a real attention whore is.
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Old 09-20-2006, 10:06 PM   #23
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The Curse of Cleveland.

Let's see... here's a few examples of evidence, from some other article:

The Drive. January 11, 1987: Of course you know that John Elway lead the Denver Broncos 98 yards for a game-tying touchdown with 39 seconds left in the fourth quarter of '87 AFC Championship Game. Cleveland was just a third-and-18 stop away from stitching the game up. Denver won it on a field goal in overtime after the Browns were forced to punt.

The Shot. May 7, 1989: Michael Jordan defies gravity, time/space to hit a buzzer-beater over a good Cleveland Cavaliers defender in Craig Ehlo to win the decisive fifth game for the Chicago Bulls.

The Catch. September 29, 1954: Game 1 of the World Series was a 2-2 ball game in the top of the 8th inning when Vic Wertz hits a blast to dead centerfield that probably would have been a three-run homer in most ballparks at the time. Instead, the incomparable Willie Mays, at the spacious Polo Grounds, makes the most magnificent catch in World Series history. The New York Giants won the game in the bottom of the 10th and go to sweep the Cleveland Indians.

Red Right 88. January 4, 1981: In a close 14-12 game, Cleveland head coach Sam Rutigliano elects not to kick an easy game-winning field goal. Browns kicker Don Cockroft (no, I didn't make that name up) had previously missed two field goals, had a PAT blocked, and another PAT didn't even get off the ground. Rutigliano calls 'Red Right 88', which had become their go-to play that year. Quarterback Brian Sipe misread the Raider coverage in the endzone and his pass intended for Ozzie Newsome was picked off by Mike Davis, effectively handing Oakland the playoff win.

The Fumble. January 17, 1988: Yet again, the Denver Broncos pull of a miraculous win in the AFC Championship Game against the Browns. Cleveland running back Ernest Byner is stripped by Denver's Jeremiah Castille on the Denver 3-yard line with 1:12 left in the fourth quarter. Cleveland lost 38-33.

The Indians had two World Series appearances in the 1990's, losing to the Atlanta Braves and Florida Marlins. There are coincidences within these Fall Classics that may or may not be stupid information.

1995 Loss to Atlanta in six: This was the first Series trip for the Indians since 1948 which ended in six games as well. Cleveland defeated the then Boston BRAVES who wouldn't return to the Series until becoming the Milwaukee Braves and showcasing Hammerin' Hank. Maybe the 1995 Braves Championship team was on a nearly 50-year road to payback? Or perhaps it's more than that. In 1915, the Cleveland baseball franchise was renamed as the Indians as a play on the 1914 Boston Braves who were known as the "Miracle Boston Braves" for their 180 degree turn around and World Series victory. I don't like people copying me and neither does the Braves organization apparently.

1997 Loss to Florida in seven: Game 7 of the '97 World Series was a cold night in Florida. BullBLEEP you might say, but it is true and only lends to the odd occurences and my tangential conclusions. In Omar Vizquel's autobiography, released in 2002, he blatantly fingered Jose Mesa as losing the seventh game for the Indians. It was Mesa who gave up the tying run in the bottom of the ninth to push the game into extras. Edgar Renteria had the game-winning RBI for the Marlins in the 11th on a grounder that probably should have been eaten up by second baseman Tony Fernandez, a four straight gold glover from 1986-1989.


People talk about Boston, Chicago or Philly being cursed. They got nothing on Cleveland. The above doesn't even mention Art Modell stealing the team away from Cleveland and winning a super bowl a few years later.
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You know, saying a city is cursed is no way to act. White Sox fans NEVER said their team was cursed, just that they always weren't good enough to win the World Series. And they won it last year. No one mentioned anything about a curse then. -CSM
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The media has talked about it many a time. BoSox fans talked about their curse, they won a series. Cleveland needs an excuse, and it's the curse.
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No one needs an excuse. Why can't people just admit their teams are sub-par right now instead of whining? I do so with my Jets and my Knicks, but that gives me more reason to root for them, if anything. -CSM
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You know, saying a city is cursed is no way to act. White Sox fans NEVER said their team was cursed, just that they always weren't good enough to win the World Series. And they won it last year. No one mentioned anything about a curse then. -CSM
That's because the Wheeze Sox fans have a Napoleon Complex and concentrate hating Cubdom more than anything else.

"Nice job choking out of the playoffs by not being able to play consistantly"
"THE CUBS STILL SUCK"
"But you're the defending champions and you added more power..."
"THE CUBS STILL SUCK"
"You missed the playoffs even though the Tigers mailed in the second half"
"THE CUBS STILL SUCK"
"Why did you not make any deadline moves?"
"THE CUBS STILL SUCK"


And how the fcuk can you admit to being a Knicks fan?
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Old 09-21-2006, 01:28 PM   #28
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Didn't read all of that SG, my head is throbing.

From what I've gathered, your city's teams have just gotten owned when the time came to step up.

At least you've had consistancy, unlike my homestate. Do people even know we have an NBA team?
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:10 PM   #29
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God this is great. You'd think he was was sloshed if you didn't know any better, vid of Chad in the locker room after the hit:

YouTube - Chad Johnson interview
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