UNC's Hansbrough gets Duke'd in the face

Lurch1982 · 03-05-2007, 04:52 PM

ESPN.com - NCB - Hansbrough's nose is broken; mask likely

Broken nose, playing with a mask ala Rip Hamilton.

Intentional cheap shot. No doubt about it. Even people that play under the goal in pick-up games at the playground know that's a filthy hit.

If you think he shouldn't have been in the game that long, Duke shouldn't have been calling time outs and trying to win either.

Way to keep it classy Coach Kahkrooksky.

**John MarchCain** · 03-05-2007, 05:26 PM

From the looks on the replay, it doesn't look like it was intentional, but I don't know the guy's motives so I can't really say.

Lurch1982 · 03-05-2007, 07:12 PM

Looking at it, there's a definate thrust of his elbow to the face. He came out of nowhere to jump into that play and swat at a ball that was already down and out.

ShyGuy727 · 03-05-2007, 07:17 PM

Reckless? Yes. Over-aggressive? Definitely. Cheap shot? Hell no.

He was whacking where the ball would've been if Hansbrough hadn't gotten stripped. Sucks for T-Money that his face was there instead. Henderson was going for a hard foul probably, but definitely wasn't trying to take anyone out.

And I can't believe you're shunning Duke for trying to stay in the game and for not giving up.

Lurch1982 · 03-05-2007, 08:39 PM

Please.

I've played inside enough to know that when you rush from that far out to jump up at a ball and swat and then jam your elbow into UNC's STAR PLAYER's grill that it's a cheap shot. If it was some chumpchange, I'd be a bit more hesitant to say "cheap-shot." When your team just got swept by UNC and got beat by Maryland in your house and are plummetting in the rankings and you're looking at a lower bracket seed and you "accidentally" elbow UNC's star player in the face, breaking his nose and making a bloodpool in the lane, it raises an eyebrow.

If you're legitimately in that situation, you try to stop your arm from going Hiroshima on someone's face. You pull back, you turn, you change direction, you DON'T commit a tech unless you mean it.

This wasn't on par with Chaney sending in the goon to break that kid's arm a few years ago, or on the same level as the GM kid going Chernobyl on some kid's groin with his fist, but it a cheap shot none-the-less and, in my opinion, that kid should have gotten an NCAA Tourny game suspension, not the ACC tourny.

And it isn't like it's the first time we've seen this out of Duke. They did the same thing to Hansbrough last year. Dockery cranked him in the face LAST YEAR. GEE. SEEMS A BIT STRANGE TO HAPPEN TWO YEARS IN A ROW.

Refer to Laettner stomping Kentucky where it hurts.

And using "He shouldn't have been in the game in the first place" is a lame excuse. First, Duke leaves their starters in all the damn time. Second, that didn't work for Issiah Thomas, it doesn't work for Coach KuhKrooksky.

**Crazyswordsman** · 03-05-2007, 09:15 PM

I'm just laughing and laughing and laughing.

Did you see this week's coaches' poll? Maryland is ahead of Duke, but by a measley ONE. This is Maryland, a team that swept Duke and won its UNC game, and Duke, a team that got swept by Maryland AND UNC. -CSM

ShyGuy727 · 03-05-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurch1982

First, Duke leaves their starters in all the damn time.

IIRC, none of Duke's starters were when the "cheap shot" didn't take place.

Yeah, Maryland went nuts against the Carolinas this year, 10-0: 7-0 vs North Carolina (2-0 vs Duke, 1-0 vs UNC, 2-0 vs N.C. State, 1-0 vs Wake Forest, 1-0 vs High Point), and 3-0 against South Carolina (2-0 over Clemson, 1-0 over Winthrop.) Terps should be a very popular tournament team.

**Crazyswordsman** · 03-06-2007, 01:40 AM

Hey! I was rooting for them before it was cool.

But in all honesty, I think they're probably only going to the sweet sixteen. Elite eight is also a possibility, but I don't see the Terps in the Final Four. -CSM

ShyGuy727 · 03-06-2007, 06:38 AM

Of course you were, like all "your" teams, right?

ShyGuy727 · 03-06-2007, 11:13 PM

Quote:

"I don't think he did it intentionally." - Tyler Hansbrough

Game over.

Lurch1982 · 03-07-2007, 02:33 PM

But I do think its intentional, as do many other people. Going further, Hansbrough isn't going to say "hell no that **** was intentional" because UNC, for all of it's issues, is a generally classy institution when handling things like this. If this were, say, an SEC or Big 12 school, they'd be whining for months.

Again, I've played under the goal my entire life. That's intentional. There are ways to not smash his nose into the back of his face.

ShyGuy727 · 03-07-2007, 02:51 PM

I'm going to trust the guy that had the best view of it. Not a pick-up big man.

Lurch1982 · 03-07-2007, 07:52 PM

I'm not, especially when every time anything remotely controversial happens to athletes on the field that have some aspect of class, they play it off as a hard foul or nothing happened. Refer to countless instances where teams play off blatantly bad and abysmal game-changing calls, hard fouls, or other things of that nature being "part of the game."

Props to Hansbrough for having more class than Duke. KuhKrooksky's whining and pissy explainations says it all ("He shouldn't have been in," "it wasn't dirty becasue it wasn't with a balled up fist,").

Karl Malone would admit that was a dirty elbow.

**John MarchCain** · 03-07-2007, 09:12 PM

^^^It's Division 1 Football!
It's the Big 12!
Anyway, whether it was intentional or not, prices have been payed.

**Crazyswordsman** · 03-07-2007, 11:00 PM

"Kuhkrooksky." Lurch, you're the best Duke basher I've ever met. -CSM

ShyGuy727 · 03-07-2007, 11:35 PM

I honestly don't see what the big deal about it is anyway. Plus, I hate UNC and you hate Duke. Not the most objective argument.

Lurch1982 · 03-08-2007, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy727

I honestly don't see what the big deal about it is anyway. Plus, I hate UNC and you hate Duke. Not the most objective argument.

I hate both actually. Go Terps, Tech, BC, or anyone else outside of the Carolinas.*

I think the big deal is how interesting the coverage has been. If this were some random team doing that to a rival's star player, the press would be all over them saying they sent in the goons. The Dookies got a free pass on something where they should have gotten flack for it. Remember when Zeke said that the Nuggets shouldn't have kept their starters in after he told his players to goon it up and how it didn't work and people threw him into a pit for it? Why doesn't the same thing happen to KuhKroozsky when he uses the same (very lame) excuse for it?

*Except Florida State and the U, I hate them too.

**Crazyswordsman** · 03-08-2007, 09:52 AM

I just hate everyone inside EITHER of the Carolinas except Wake Forest. -CSM

03-05-2007, 04:52 PM	#1
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,441.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,166.14 Donate	UNC's Hansbrough gets Duke'd in the face ESPN.com - NCB - Hansbrough's nose is broken; mask likely Broken nose, playing with a mask ala Rip Hamilton. Intentional cheap shot. No doubt about it. Even people that play under the goal in pick-up games at the playground know that's a filthy hit. If you think he shouldn't have been in the game that long, Duke shouldn't have been calling time outs and trying to win either. Way to keep it classy Coach Kahkrooksky.

03-05-2007, 08:39 PM	#5
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,441.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,166.14 Donate	Please. I've played inside enough to know that when you rush from that far out to jump up at a ball and swat and then jam your elbow into UNC's STAR PLAYER's grill that it's a cheap shot. If it was some chumpchange, I'd be a bit more hesitant to say "cheap-shot." When your team just got swept by UNC and got beat by Maryland in your house and are plummetting in the rankings and you're looking at a lower bracket seed and you "accidentally" elbow UNC's star player in the face, breaking his nose and making a bloodpool in the lane, it raises an eyebrow. If you're legitimately in that situation, you try to stop your arm from going Hiroshima on someone's face. You pull back, you turn, you change direction, you DON'T commit a tech unless you mean it. This wasn't on par with Chaney sending in the goon to break that kid's arm a few years ago, or on the same level as the GM kid going Chernobyl on some kid's groin with his fist, but it a cheap shot none-the-less and, in my opinion, that kid should have gotten an NCAA Tourny game suspension, not the ACC tourny. And it isn't like it's the first time we've seen this out of Duke. They did the same thing to Hansbrough last year. Dockery cranked him in the face LAST YEAR. GEE. SEEMS A BIT STRANGE TO HAPPEN TWO YEARS IN A ROW. Refer to Laettner stomping Kentucky where it hurts. And using "He shouldn't have been in the game in the first place" is a lame excuse. First, Duke leaves their starters in all the damn time. Second, that didn't work for Issiah Thomas, it doesn't work for Coach KuhKrooksky. Last edited by Lurch1982; 03-05-2007 at 08:48 PM.

03-05-2007, 05:26 PM	#2
John MarchCain 72 and still going strong Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arizona Gender: Posts: 11,364 Thanks: 914 Thanked 391 Times in 268 Posts Points: 1,126.00 Bank: 310,855.30 Total Points: 311,981.30 Donate	From the looks on the replay, it doesn't look like it was intentional, but I don't know the guy's motives so I can't really say.

03-05-2007, 07:12 PM	#3
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,441.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,166.14 Donate	Looking at it, there's a definate thrust of his elbow to the face. He came out of nowhere to jump into that play and swat at a ball that was already down and out.

03-05-2007, 07:17 PM	#4
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,221.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,873.06 Donate	Reckless? Yes. Over-aggressive? Definitely. Cheap shot? Hell no. He was whacking where the ball would've been if Hansbrough hadn't gotten stripped. Sucks for T-Money that his face was there instead. Henderson was going for a hard foul probably, but definitely wasn't trying to take anyone out. And I can't believe you're shunning Duke for trying to stay in the game and for not giving up.

03-05-2007, 09:15 PM	#6
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,303.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,078.69 Donate	I'm just laughing and laughing and laughing. Did you see this week's coaches' poll? Maryland is ahead of Duke, but by a measley ONE. This is Maryland, a team that swept Duke and won its UNC game, and Duke, a team that got swept by Maryland AND UNC. -CSM

03-06-2007, 01:40 AM	#8
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,303.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,078.69 Donate	Hey! I was rooting for them before it was cool. But in all honesty, I think they're probably only going to the sweet sixteen. Elite eight is also a possibility, but I don't see the Terps in the Final Four. -CSM

03-06-2007, 06:38 AM	#9
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,221.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,873.06 Donate	Of course you were, like all "your" teams, right?

03-07-2007, 02:33 PM	#11
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,441.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,166.14 Donate	But I do think its intentional, as do many other people. Going further, Hansbrough isn't going to say "hell no that **** was intentional" because UNC, for all of it's issues, is a generally classy institution when handling things like this. If this were, say, an SEC or Big 12 school, they'd be whining for months. Again, I've played under the goal my entire life. That's intentional. There are ways to not smash his nose into the back of his face.

03-07-2007, 02:51 PM	#12
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,221.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,873.06 Donate	I'm going to trust the guy that had the best view of it. Not a pick-up big man.

03-07-2007, 07:52 PM	#13
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,441.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,166.14 Donate	I'm not, especially when every time anything remotely controversial happens to athletes on the field that have some aspect of class, they play it off as a hard foul or nothing happened. Refer to countless instances where teams play off blatantly bad and abysmal game-changing calls, hard fouls, or other things of that nature being "part of the game." Props to Hansbrough for having more class than Duke. KuhKrooksky's whining and pissy explainations says it all ("He shouldn't have been in," "it wasn't dirty becasue it wasn't with a balled up fist,"). Karl Malone would admit that was a dirty elbow.

03-07-2007, 09:12 PM	#14
John MarchCain 72 and still going strong Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arizona Gender: Posts: 11,364 Thanks: 914 Thanked 391 Times in 268 Posts Points: 1,126.00 Bank: 310,855.30 Total Points: 311,981.30 Donate	^^^It's Division 1 Football! It's the Big 12! Anyway, whether it was intentional or not, prices have been payed.

03-07-2007, 11:00 PM	#15
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,303.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,078.69 Donate	"Kuhkrooksky." Lurch, you're the best Duke basher I've ever met. -CSM

03-07-2007, 11:35 PM	#16
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,221.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,873.06 Donate	I honestly don't see what the big deal about it is anyway. Plus, I hate UNC and you hate Duke. Not the most objective argument.

03-08-2007, 09:52 AM	#18
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,303.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,078.69 Donate	I just hate everyone inside EITHER of the Carolinas except Wake Forest. -CSM