It's official: Lloyd Carr is retiring (THANK YOU GOD)

**Crazyswordsman** · 11-18-2007, 08:11 PM

Carr stepping down as Wolverines coach - Yahoo! News

I think it's time for change at Michigan. As of right now, we can't beat Tressel and we need someone who can do that.

But beating the Buckeyes and winning bowl games takes second fiddle to a fresh start for Michigan. And by a "Fresh Start" I mean we have to move past the Bo era.

It's for this reason I'm a little ambiguous to get Les Miles to come and coach. -CSM

ShyGuy727 · 11-18-2007, 08:29 PM

*tear* Gonna miss the old b*stard, especially his halftime interviews. "Wet rain"

Time to trade in your old Carr for one with Les Miles.

...

I'm punny.

Rumor is Miles' wife has been house shopping around A2, though she claims it's "for a friend".

Bring on Les, Tressel's already proved he can completely out coach him in a game where Ohio State was pegged as the massive underdog (04 Alamo Bowl). I think that the scUM fans are just so fed up with Lllllloyd (jesus, that's getting hard to type out) that even the illogical starts to look logical. Miles is not that special- he reminds a bit of Weis, arrogant and living off the talent of others (Pellini, Crowton, the LSU players he inherited). What happened to Lloyd Carnage making sure the job was given to someone from within?

JT 6-1

**Crazyswordsman** · 11-18-2007, 09:30 PM

^Well he CAN recruit. -CSM

ShyGuy727 · 11-18-2007, 09:55 PM

He hasn't coached anywhere longer than 4 years yet, and Okie State hasn't done anything exceptional with him or these past few years after he left.

**Crazyswordsman** · 11-19-2007, 12:12 AM

^That's because Okie State is another one of those instate programs that gets the shaft to a bigger name like OU. OU gets the recruits, not Okie State. -CSM

ShyGuy727 · 11-27-2007, 07:50 AM

Kirk Ferentz has been offered the job, according to rumors.

Lurch1982 · 11-28-2007, 11:01 PM

It's official: Michigan initiating talks with Les Miles.

ESPN - Michigan gets permission to talk to LSU's Miles - College Football

So when he underachieves against tOSU, is he going to be called LLLLLes Miles or Les MiLLLLLLLes?

I understand the move, and if he can go back to Michigan I totally support it.

But I think he's horrifically overrated, especially when looking at his LSU squads and how badly they've underachieved.

Platinum · 11-28-2007, 11:03 PM

No matter what... they still won't beat Ohio State for a few years... so who ever goes in is going to be down.

**Crazyswordsman** · 11-29-2007, 12:39 AM

Les Miles is the ANTI-Lloyd Carr. And that's not a good thing at all. Lloyd Carr is incredibly conservative. Les Miles is incredibly aggressive. You can't have either extreme. -CSM

Lurch1982 · 11-29-2007, 01:22 AM

Maybe its because LSU is under a massive microscope here (more coverage than the Saints and Hornets combined), but Miles really doesn't impress me and certainly doesn't come off as an elite coach. He has balls when it comes to 4 & whatever, but really, his teams shouldn't have been in that position in the first place, at least not this year or last year.

Russell was part of the problem last year. Dude was anti-clutch in big games. Miles, however, has been sitting on a team that in the hands of a better coach would have gone undefeated for almost two years, especially with that D.

ShyGuy727 · 11-29-2007, 01:28 AM

Career Website

**Crazyswordsman** · 11-29-2007, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurch1982

Russell was part of the problem last year. Dude was anti-clutch in big games.

He won his bowl game. Granted, it was against Notre Dame, but still. -CSM

Lurch1982 · 11-29-2007, 02:49 PM

He went up against a team that didn't have a D in his bowl game. It wasn't going to be close because ND wasn't going to handle an SEC defense period, let alone a top 1 or 2 D in the country.

Russell vs. Florida (Loss):
24/41 228, 1 TD to 3 picks

Russell vs. Auburn (Loss):
20/35, 269, 0 TD, 0 INT

Russell vs. Tenn (Win):
24/36 247 3 TD, 3 INT

They played 5 ranked teams: FLA (Loss), Auburn (Loss), Tenn (Close win), Ark (Win) and ND (Win).

Ark was meaningless to everyone but Ark, and ND didn't belong in the Sugar Bowl. He bungled the Auburn and Florida games and nearly bungled the Tenn game. He blew up scrub teams for the rest of the year to bloat his stats.

ShyGuy727 · 12-01-2007, 10:42 AM

Les is in. And taking Jon Tenuta from Georgia Tech as his DC.

**Dr. Horrible** · 12-01-2007, 01:17 PM

ESPN - Source: Miles will remain coach at LSU - College Football

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-01-2007, 02:09 PM

So, who will it be? I think it should be Rich Rodriguez. -CSM

ShyGuy727 · 12-01-2007, 08:48 PM

Rich said he's not going anywhere during the Alabama job hunt- he was born and raised in WV and went to school at WVU.

My money is on Brian Kelly.

**Crazyswordsman** · 12-16-2007, 12:30 PM

ESPN - Rodriguez meets with Michigan AD about replacing Carr - College Football
-CSM

11-18-2007, 08:11 PM	#1
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,273.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,048.69 Donate	It's official: Lloyd Carr is retiring (THANK YOU GOD) Carr stepping down as Wolverines coach - Yahoo! News I think it's time for change at Michigan. As of right now, we can't beat Tressel and we need someone who can do that. But beating the Buckeyes and winning bowl games takes second fiddle to a fresh start for Michigan. And by a "Fresh Start" I mean we have to move past the Bo era. It's for this reason I'm a little ambiguous to get Les Miles to come and coach. -CSM

11-18-2007, 08:29 PM	#2
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,216.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,868.06 Donate	tear Gonna miss the old bstard, especially his halftime interviews. "Wet rain" Time to trade in your old Carr for one with Les Miles. ... I'm punny. Rumor is Miles' wife has been house shopping around A2, though she claims it's "for a friend". Bring on Les, Tressel's already proved he can completely out coach him in a game where Ohio State was pegged as the massive underdog (04 Alamo Bowl). I think that the scUM fans are just so fed up with Lllllloyd (jesus, that's getting hard to type out) that even the illogical starts to look logical. Miles is not that special- he reminds a bit of Weis, arrogant and living off the talent of others (Pellini, Crowton, the LSU players he inherited). What happened to Lloyd Carnage making sure the job was given to someone from within? JT 6-1 Last edited by ShyGuy727; 11-18-2007 at 08:36 PM.*

11-18-2007, 09:30 PM	#3
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ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,216.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,868.06 Donate	He hasn't coached anywhere longer than 4 years yet, and Okie State hasn't done anything exceptional with him or these past few years after he left.

11-19-2007, 12:12 AM	#5
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11-27-2007, 07:50 AM	#6
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,216.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,868.06 Donate	Kirk Ferentz has been offered the job, according to rumors.

11-28-2007, 11:01 PM	#7
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,413.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,138.14 Donate	It's official: Michigan initiating talks with Les Miles. ESPN - Michigan gets permission to talk to LSU's Miles - College Football So when he underachieves against tOSU, is he going to be called LLLLLes Miles or Les MiLLLLLLLes? I understand the move, and if he can go back to Michigan I totally support it. But I think he's horrifically overrated, especially when looking at his LSU squads and how badly they've underachieved.

11-28-2007, 11:03 PM	#8
Platinum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wv Gender: Posts: 1,369 Thanks: 48 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts Points: 4,762.24 Bank: 24,850.95 Total Points: 29,613.19 Donate	No matter what... they still won't beat Ohio State for a few years... so who ever goes in is going to be down.

11-29-2007, 12:39 AM	#9
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11-29-2007, 01:22 AM	#10
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,413.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,138.14 Donate	Maybe its because LSU is under a massive microscope here (more coverage than the Saints and Hornets combined), but Miles really doesn't impress me and certainly doesn't come off as an elite coach. He has balls when it comes to 4 & whatever, but really, his teams shouldn't have been in that position in the first place, at least not this year or last year. Russell was part of the problem last year. Dude was anti-clutch in big games. Miles, however, has been sitting on a team that in the hands of a better coach would have gone undefeated for almost two years, especially with that D.

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11-29-2007, 02:49 PM	#13
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,413.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,138.14 Donate	He went up against a team that didn't have a D in his bowl game. It wasn't going to be close because ND wasn't going to handle an SEC defense period, let alone a top 1 or 2 D in the country. Russell vs. Florida (Loss): 24/41 228, 1 TD to 3 picks Russell vs. Auburn (Loss): 20/35, 269, 0 TD, 0 INT Russell vs. Tenn (Win): 24/36 247 3 TD, 3 INT They played 5 ranked teams: FLA (Loss), Auburn (Loss), Tenn (Close win), Ark (Win) and ND (Win). Ark was meaningless to everyone but Ark, and ND didn't belong in the Sugar Bowl. He bungled the Auburn and Florida games and nearly bungled the Tenn game. He blew up scrub teams for the rest of the year to bloat his stats.

12-01-2007, 10:42 AM	#14
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,216.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,868.06 Donate	Les is in. And taking Jon Tenuta from Georgia Tech as his DC.

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12-01-2007, 08:48 PM	#17
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,216.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,868.06 Donate	Rich said he's not going anywhere during the Alabama job hunt- he was born and raised in WV and went to school at WVU. My money is on Brian Kelly.

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