LSU GONE!!!

Platinum · 11-23-2007, 07:43 PM

now that LSU is beaten... who goes to the national title game???

ESPN - Arkansas Razorbacks vs. LSU Tigers Box Score, November 23 2007 - NCAA College Football

GO MCFADDEN!!! QB and RB this guy is great but yet they didn't use him under the stressful situations.

**Crazyswordsman** · 11-23-2007, 09:49 PM

Oklahoma wins the Little 12, WVU loses, and it's OSU and Georgia in the title game! Sic 'em! -CSM

Platinum · 11-23-2007, 10:14 PM

i like that, but i wish OSU and WVU would play because of the HUGE game... not because it would be good, just because people from Ohio and West Virginia would like to see it

though in my opinion... the Buckeyes would destroy the Mountianeers

ShyGuy727 · 11-23-2007, 10:54 PM

Anyone but WVU please...

Lurch1982 · 11-24-2007, 03:05 AM

A 2 loss Georgia in the big game at the end? They may not even take their half of the SEC (If Tenn wins against KY, Tenn does). If any 2 loss SEC team gets to the big game at the end, LSU would.

Disclaimer: I'm not an LSU fan.

That being said, I don't think tOSU belongs in the Big Game at the End. They didn't play ANYONE. At all. The Big 11 was on an insane down year, and they didn't play anyone outside of conference. It shouldn't be rewarded with a berth, especially over schools that went out and scheduled majors or schools that had competition in their conference. I think if OSU landed a matchup against, say, LSU/Georgia, West Va, or any of the top 15 schools not named Kansas (because they're just as bull**** as OSU), they get blown the hell out.

That's my opinion, and I'm sure we'll see it tested on the field because college football is bull****. Championships not fully decided on the field are invalid and garbage.

ShyGuy727 · 11-24-2007, 03:42 AM

You seem to fail to realize that Ohio State has a better SOS (37) than Kansas (88), Missouri (40), West Virginia (58), Arizona State (57), Hawaii (120), Oklahoma (66) and others in the top 15.

Ohio State matches up well with most of the top 15, pretty much anyone without a mobile quarterback or option heavy offense, I could see a lot of even and close potential matchups that oculd go either way. West Virginia is the one team I absolutely dread having to play, just because of the speed of Slaton, White and Devine and the troubles we had with Juice. WVU does fumble quite a bit though- creating turnovers and forcing them would be the one thing IMO that could keep Ohio State in the game.

**Crazyswordsman** · 11-24-2007, 09:56 AM

If Tennessee loses today, Georgia's in the SEC title game. And Georgia can expose LSU. After LSU, the Little 12 teams, WVU, and OSU, is Georgia. And if the Little 12 teams, WVU, and Tennessee all go down, Georgia is in. -CSM

Lurch1982 · 11-24-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy727

You seem to fail to realize that Ohio State has a better SOS (37) than Kansas (88), Missouri (40), West Virginia (58), Arizona State (57), Hawaii (120), Oklahoma (66) and others in the top 15.

Ohio State matches up well with most of the top 15, pretty much anyone without a mobile quarterback or option heavy offense, I could see a lot of even and close potential matchups that oculd go either way. West Virginia is the one team I absolutely dread having to play, just because of the speed of Slaton, White and Devine and the troubles we had with Juice. WVU does fumble quite a bit though- creating turnovers and forcing them would be the one thing IMO that could keep Ohio State in the game.

I realize that OSU's SoS is skewed off from playing a bunch of Big 11 teams that were ranked after beating up on bottomfeeders pre-conference and those Big 11 teams are no longer ranked or just on the cust of not being ranked. They didn't play anyone outside of conference, and if they did (or the Big 11 would have been actually good), they'd have 2 or 3 losses. The ONLY reason they're being talked about as a potential player in the big game at the end is because they have 1 loss on their cupcake schedule. If we're going by that, we should slap in Hawaii since they ran the table.

Championships not decided on the field are not valid.

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

If Tennessee loses today, Georgia's in the SEC title game. And Georgia can expose LSU. After LSU, the Little 12 teams, WVU, and OSU, is Georgia. And if the Little 12 teams, WVU, and Tennessee all go down, Georgia is in. -CSM

Too many variables, and they still have to get past LSU. And while Les Miles chronically underachieves with his team, I just don't see that happening. Especially since it's shaping up that we're going to be looking at a Little 11, Little 12 BGATE.

ShyGuy727 · 11-24-2007, 03:38 PM

Those SOS rankings were as of Friday- beating a team when they were ranked even if they're unranked now isn't going to affect them.

I stand firm that Washington is a decent victory- one of the toughest places to play on the road, before last night UW gave Boise their only loss, UW's record is skewed by the toughness of their schedule, etc.

It'd be one thing if Ohio State struggled with their schedule- I'd agree with you that they're not NC worthy, but they did everything they could with the schedule they were given and (outside of Illinois) dominated everyone they played.

I'd be fine with Ohio State-Hawaii if the Rainbow Warriors win out.

**Dr. Horrible** · 11-24-2007, 03:53 PM

I think it's unlikely that either Kansas or Missouri will beat OU for a shot at the big game. It's difficult to say who of the two would have a better shot, since Kansas is the more balanced team and hasn't already failed to beat OU, but Missouri has an offense closer to that Texas Tech, who just beat OU. And it's hard to beat a team twice in one year.

And Georgia isn't looking like they'll make it out of this game with title aspirations alive.

Lurch1982 · 11-24-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy727

Those SOS rankings were as of Friday- beating a team when they were ranked even if they're unranked now isn't going to affect them.

I stand firm that Washington is a decent victory- one of the toughest places to play on the road, before last night UW gave Boise their only loss, UW's record is skewed by the toughness of their schedule, etc.

It'd be one thing if Ohio State struggled with their schedule- I'd agree with you that they're not NC worthy, but they did everything they could with the schedule they were given and (outside of Illinois) dominated everyone they played.

I'd be fine with Ohio State-Hawaii if the Rainbow Warriors win out.

That's the thing. They beat Purdue, Penn, and Wisc when they were ranked, and I'm not sure even the most diehard fan of any of those schools are going to say they were quality this year. Wisc. is barely hanging on in the rankings, Purdue is out and Penn St. is out.

Yeah, they did the best they could with the schedule they were dealt, but I think it's disgraceful that they didn't schedule anyone worth a damn out of conference. Washington at home has been good prior, but they're simply not good. At all.

If the WAC were a hypothetical major conference, and Hawaii had the current schedule (where they didn't get jack in terms of OoC scheduling), would anyone honestly say they belong in the BGatE? Teams that don't play anyone difficult aren't as impressive as teams that run gauntlets.

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I think it's unlikely that either Kansas or Missouri will beat OU for a shot at the big game. It's difficult to say who of the two would have a better shot, since Kansas is the more balanced team and hasn't already failed to beat OU, but Missouri has an offense closer to that Texas Tech, who just beat OU. And it's hard to beat a team twice in one year.

And Georgia isn't looking like they'll make it out of this game with title aspirations alive.

Past history has proven to not bet on OU in big games near the end.
2006: Loss to Boise State (WTF, Point and laugh)
2005: Not in running
2004: Blown the **** out 55-19 in the BGatE (Auburn should have been here instead)
2003: the chokejob to Kansas State in the little 12 Championship and the "it was close but they were never really in it" loss to LSU 21-14 (154 yards of total offense)
2002: Not in the running due to losses to A&M and Okie-State

I just don't see it happening.

Tenn. just forced 2OT, so they're still holding on by the hair of their ass.

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

If Tennessee loses today, Georgia's in the SEC title game. And Georgia can expose LSU. After LSU, the Little 12 teams, WVU, and OSU, is Georgia. And if the Little 12 teams, WVU, and Tennessee all go down, Georgia is in. -CSM

There goes that theory.

Tenn over UK 52-50 in 4OT.

SEC: Overtime lives here.

Darunia00 · 11-24-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurch1982

college football is bull****. Championships not fully decided on the field are invalid and garbage.

This. It's tough for me to get upset about what happens in the realm of college football when everything is so arbitrary. Let's have some entertaining bowl games and leave it at that for the time being.

Platinum · 11-24-2007, 11:32 PM

this have diffenatly been one of the most interesting years in college football... but looks like all the BCS bowl games will be good matchs whoever plays.

ShyGuy727 · 11-25-2007, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lurch1982

Yeah, they did the best they could with the schedule they were dealt, but I think it's disgraceful that they didn't schedule anyone worth a damn out of conference. Washington at home has been good prior, but they're simply not good. At all.

I think we've been over this and I know it definitely doesn't mean jack in the scheme of things this season, but we scheduled UW after their 1 loss season with Neuheisel in 2000. Just like when we scheduled Miami (FL) for two seasons in the near future they were powerhouses in the early 00's, they aren't looking like they'll be back to that status by the time we play them in the near future. Just sometimes you can try and plan a tough schedule but things happen.

Shine Dude · 11-25-2007, 12:10 PM

Yes! Mizzou beat Kansas! F**k yeah!

**Dr. Horrible** · 11-25-2007, 02:26 PM

Mizzou looked stronger than I've ever seen them. I wouldn't be suprised if OU was a 9 point dog when the lines come out.

GURU ANT · 11-25-2007, 04:20 PM

Mizzou and WVU it looks like, I think Mizzou will definetly be in.

Platinum · 11-25-2007, 04:24 PM

WVU still has a game left and OSU still has a shot

11-23-2007, 07:43 PM	#1
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11-23-2007, 09:49 PM	#2
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Platinum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wv Gender: Posts: 1,369 Thanks: 48 Thanked 21 Times in 21 Posts Points: 4,762.24 Bank: 24,850.95 Total Points: 29,613.19 Donate	i like that, but i wish OSU and WVU would play because of the HUGE game... not because it would be good, just because people from Ohio and West Virginia would like to see it though in my opinion... the Buckeyes would destroy the Mountianeers

11-23-2007, 10:54 PM	#4
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11-24-2007, 03:05 AM	#5
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,411.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,136.14 Donate	A 2 loss Georgia in the big game at the end? They may not even take their half of the SEC (If Tenn wins against KY, Tenn does). If any 2 loss SEC team gets to the big game at the end, LSU would. Disclaimer: I'm not an LSU fan. That being said, I don't think tOSU belongs in the Big Game at the End. They didn't play ANYONE. At all. The Big 11 was on an insane down year, and they didn't play anyone outside of conference. It shouldn't be rewarded with a berth, especially over schools that went out and scheduled majors or schools that had competition in their conference. I think if OSU landed a matchup against, say, LSU/Georgia, West Va, or any of the top 15 schools not named Kansas (because they're just as bull** as OSU), they get blown the hell out. That's my opinion, and I'm sure we'll see it tested on the field because college football is bull**. Championships not fully decided on the field are invalid and garbage.

11-24-2007, 03:42 AM	#6
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,215.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,867.06 Donate	You seem to fail to realize that Ohio State has a better SOS (37) than Kansas (88), Missouri (40), West Virginia (58), Arizona State (57), Hawaii (120), Oklahoma (66) and others in the top 15. Ohio State matches up well with most of the top 15, pretty much anyone without a mobile quarterback or option heavy offense, I could see a lot of even and close potential matchups that oculd go either way. West Virginia is the one team I absolutely dread having to play, just because of the speed of Slaton, White and Devine and the troubles we had with Juice. WVU does fumble quite a bit though- creating turnovers and forcing them would be the one thing IMO that could keep Ohio State in the game.

11-24-2007, 09:56 AM	#7
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11-24-2007, 03:38 PM	#9
ShyGuy727 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: O-H! I-O! Gender: Posts: 10,061 Thanks: 37 Thanked 62 Times in 46 Posts Points: 32,215.98 Bank: 25,651.08 Total Points: 57,867.06 Donate	Those SOS rankings were as of Friday- beating a team when they were ranked even if they're unranked now isn't going to affect them. I stand firm that Washington is a decent victory- one of the toughest places to play on the road, before last night UW gave Boise their only loss, UW's record is skewed by the toughness of their schedule, etc. It'd be one thing if Ohio State struggled with their schedule- I'd agree with you that they're not NC worthy, but they did everything they could with the schedule they were given and (outside of Illinois) dominated everyone they played. I'd be fine with Ohio State-Hawaii if the Rainbow Warriors win out.

11-24-2007, 03:53 PM	#10
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