Official NFL Draft Discussion Topic

**March of the Covenant** · 04-26-2008, 07:26 AM

SInce the draft is today, why not?

Maximum Spider · 04-26-2008, 09:05 AM

C'mon Ravens, get a good Quarterback and possibly good Wide Reciever. Please, with those positions, we'll be unstoppable!

Auron · 04-26-2008, 01:40 PM

I'm at least hoping Buffalo will trade down with Detroit or Philadelphia and still draft Devin Thomas. 11 is a little high to draft a receiver this year.

DJ Ryan · 04-26-2008, 01:53 PM

I don't want Matt Ryan, I just don't.

Maximum Spider · 04-26-2008, 01:59 PM

In other news, most draftees don't want to be drafted by the Raiders.

Who wants to be a Raider? - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

ShyGuy727 · 04-26-2008, 02:12 PM

Wake me when it's the fourth round.

Auron · 04-26-2008, 02:14 PM

Looks like you got Ryan, Andre.

DJ Ryan · 04-26-2008, 03:23 PM

We just need players, and with all the holes we've created by cutting Alge, trading D'Lo and company, we need to fill them.

Instead, we're trying to find some "face of the franchise" BS by drafting a QB we REALLY don't need. Redman showed he's perfectly capable of leading this team if they give him their support. Barring them running Joe Horn all the way out of town, he'll have a decent WR core in Horn, White and Robinson (future beast) and has a beastly backfield containing Norwood and Turner.

We already fixed the offensive problem: benching Joey. Now we need to fix the defensive problem.

Lurch1982 · 04-26-2008, 04:58 PM

I think Ryan is a bust. Dumb pick. You guys really need a WR that doesn't have boughts of brickhands and a line. Maybe another RB. I would have gone with a defensive player (like Dorsey) over the best QB in a weak QB class. You figure the Falcons are a 2 or 3 year project regardless of what they pick, so you might as well wait for a good QB to pop up in the draft next year, take one of the other QBs late (like the guy from Michigan or Booty from USC if they drop to the 2nd or 3rd). Granted, Atlanta is a mess on and off the field (from a PR perspective anyway). Blenk might be trying to just force Vick out of people's head.

Saints trading up to get Ellis is a good move, but I'd rather them trade out for Shockey.

OT Long getting that much money is insane.

McFadden is a good fit on the Raiders, but they'll still suck since they have no defense, no line, and no recievers. And Jamarcus Russel has no experience.

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy727

Wake me when it's the fourth round.

Talk to you tomorrow then?

**Crazyswordsman** · 04-26-2008, 05:04 PM

*sigh* And people care more about this than the NBA or NHL playoffs

All I can say is I wish the Jets went with some offense -CSM

Maximum Spider · 04-26-2008, 05:17 PM

Joe Flacco better do things with the Ravens offense. I'm really not going to accept B-More to tank again. And the offense is what we need to pay most of the attention to. I'm happy we got a good QB, because I sure as hell don't want that choker Boller passing every freakin' game.

Flacco's going to need to gain the Raven's trust that he can pass us back to the Bowl, however. Of course, we've never really trusted Boller, which is a good reason why we traded for Mcnair, and we went 13-3 in his first year with us. I'm expecting the same this year, not a failing effort like last year.

Packers just traded their pick to the Jets. We'll have to see how that turns out.

Auron · 04-26-2008, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lurch1982

McFadden is a good fit on the Raiders, but they'll still suck since they have no defense, no line, and no recievers. And Jamarcus Russel has no experience.

Not to mention the Jamarcus still has bust written all over him.

**Crazyswordsman** · 04-26-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VWF_champion

Packers just traded their pick to the Jets. We'll have to see how that turns out.

We picked up a tight end: Purdue's Dustin Keller; ESPN thinks he'll be a bad blocker but a great receiver for us;

Eagles got a steal in DeSean Jackson; -CSM

Auron · 04-26-2008, 08:13 PM

Anyone else a bit surprised that Dan Connor is still out there? I know I am.

**Crazyswordsman** · 04-26-2008, 10:40 PM

This sucks.

Chad Henne and Jake Long were my allies. Now they're my arch enemies.

Vernon Goldsten (or however his last name is spelled) was once my arch enemy. Now he's my ally.

Why did you do this to me God? -CSM

DJ Ryan · 04-27-2008, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lurch1982

I think Ryan is a bust. Dumb pick. You guys really need a WR that doesn't have boughts of brickhands and a line. Maybe another RB. I would have gone with a defensive player (like Dorsey) over the best QB in a weak QB class. You figure the Falcons are a 2 or 3 year project regardless of what they pick, so you might as well wait for a good QB to pop up in the draft next year, take one of the other QBs late (like the guy from Michigan or Booty from USC if they drop to the 2nd or 3rd). Granted, Atlanta is a mess on and off the field (from a PR perspective anyway). Blenk might be trying to just force Vick out of people's head.

Roddy White has come on strong and quietly posted a 1,000 yard season despite having to deal with 3 starting QBs. This franchise has forced it's best players from a talent and personality standpoint (talent = DHall, personality easily goes to Dunn) and is on the verge of pushing Joe Horn out, yet we're wondering why we're so dysfunctional.

Atlanta will be having thoughts about Vick until June 2009, that's a fact. Why waste that pick on a QB when O-Line has been your weak point since 2001? Why pick a QB when you have NO #1 CORNER?

Atlanta isn't far away from turning this thing around, remember, Redman played better than most of the NFL's QBs in the month of December (his only 4 appearances) posting 10 TDs and 5 INTs (3 in one game IIRC) and almost bringing us back from an 18 point deficit. I think he'll be a good temporary fix, hell, he may even pull a Drew Brees and save his career before some punk comes in trying to steal it. We fixed the offensive problem: benching Joey. Permanently. Let's not cause more by brining in nth quarterbacks and just admitting how much of a slump we're in.

ShyGuy727 · 04-27-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Vernon Goldsten (or however his last name is spelled)

Pfft don't act like you don't know. Two years in a row you saw nothing but the back of his jersey as he plowed through the number one draft pick (and often the rest of the line) like it was nothing. And now Henne and him are in the same division. Mwhaha.

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**Crazyswordsman** · 04-27-2008, 11:53 AM

^Yeah I know who he is. He's damn good and he killed us. Shame he has to be on our side now and the good guys have to be the enemies now. -CSM

Lurch1982 · 04-27-2008, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Member Formerly Known As Andre

Roddy White has come on strong and quietly posted a 1,000 yard season despite having to deal with 3 starting QBs. This franchise has forced it's best players from a talent and personality standpoint (talent = DHall, personality easily goes to Dunn) and is on the verge of pushing Joe Horn out, yet we're wondering why we're so dysfunctional.

Atlanta will be having thoughts about Vick until June 2009, that's a fact. Why waste that pick on a QB when O-Line has been your weak point since 2001? Why pick a QB when you have NO #1 CORNER?

Atlanta isn't far away from turning this thing around, remember, Redman played better than most of the NFL's QBs in the month of December (his only 4 appearances) posting 10 TDs and 5 INTs (3 in one game IIRC) and almost bringing us back from an 18 point deficit. I think he'll be a good temporary fix, hell, he may even pull a Drew Brees and save his career before some punk comes in trying to steal it. We fixed the offensive problem: benching Joey. Permanently. Let's not cause more by brining in nth quarterbacks and just admitting how much of a slump we're in.

I don't think ATL can compete in an offensive shootout in the NFC South. They're not established, and they don't have a QB or a line. I would have built on defense. They passed on way too many good defensive players to justify taking Ryan that high. There's a better chance of them taking the division by being defensively dominant through the draft and running an efficient offense than there is of them building up a high powered offense at this point.

**Perrin Aybara** · 04-27-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VWF_champion

Joe Flacco better do things with the Ravens offense. I'm really not going to accept B-More to tank again. And the offense is what we need to pay most of the attention to. I'm happy we got a good QB, because I sure as hell don't want that choker Boller passing every freakin' game.

I sure hope this Flacco kid finally breaks the curse of Ravens QBs.-jay

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Auron Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I don't know. Where do I live? Gender: Posts: 5,782 Thanks: 7 Thanked 194 Times in 124 Posts Points: 1,576.96 Bank: 354,013.52 Total Points: 355,590.48 Donate	Anyone else a bit surprised that Dan Connor is still out there? I know I am.

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04-27-2008, 11:53 AM	#18
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