Bowl games suck.

Lurch1982 · 01-02-2008, 06:10 PM

More like Bowel games.

Georgia "kept it classy." By that, I mean the complete opposite on every aspect of it. Their fans caused trouble in the streets before and after the game, and were generally rude jerks. Hawaii's fans were great OTOH and are exactly what you want to see if you're a host city: A group of people who are dumping tons of money into local businesses while behaving and generally acting like decent human beings. Yeah UGA fan, keep chanting overrated and whining about how you belong in the big game at the end when you couldn't win your division, let alone your conference. GTFO. You're like Met fan whininig that they would have swept out every other team in the NL playoffs last season after choking out of the race.

The Rose Bowel movement wasn't much better. USC slaughtered Illinois (making you wonder how badly LSU is going to jump on the skull of the Buckeyes). Really, the matchup we should have seen was UGA/USC and Hawaii/Illinois. Actually, I also wind up questioning how Kansas got into a BCS game while Mizzou sat on the sidelines and stomped on Arkansux (BTW, go Houston Nutt you failure. You chased out three top offensive recruits at QB and WR because you refused to even attempt to pass the ball, hope you have another affair at whatever dump you went to).

Actually, in general, this Bowel season hasn't even provided good games. Just ****ty selectons of "at large" teams in the BCS games in order to guarantee traditional conference teams an easy win.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-02-2008, 06:30 PM

"Bowel Games." Heh. Good one.

I don't think there's a decent BCS matchup.

I wanted the UGA/USC matchup more than UGA being in the title game, if you remember. That would've been the de facto title game.

And what are your thoughts on Lloyd Carr finally winning his (last) Bowl Game against the Heisman trophy winner? -CSM

GURU ANT · 01-02-2008, 07:58 PM

The Heisman trophy winner that shouldn't have won.....

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-02-2008, 07:59 PM

I think if Hart were healthy the whole year he would've won the Heisman. -CSM

Lurch1982 · 01-02-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazysnowman

"Bowel Games." Heh. Good one.

I don't think there's a decent BCS matchup.

I wanted the UGA/USC matchup more than UGA being in the title game, if you remember. That would've been the de facto title game.

And what are your thoughts on Lloyd Carr finally winning his (last) Bowl Game against the Heisman trophy winner? -CSM

I think LSU/OSU is enough of a title game to work in the idiotic situation we have right now. I think its going to be a massive blowout in favor of LSU. If it isn't and it goes OSU's way, expect every major program to stop scheduling out of conference and pull an OSU (schedule every chumpchange directional school in the state while praying your conference sucks).

Good to see Carr and those seniors go out on top and get carried out by his team. Sadly, he'll only be remembered as that coach that couldn't get it done in some stupid rivalry, not as a solid coach that brought a national championship to the school in an age where academic standards and successful football are generally not equally high.

ShyGuy727 · 01-02-2008, 09:33 PM

I think if Hart played for a school not named Michigan he would never have even been considered in Heisman talks, regardless of if he deserved it or not. See: Kevin Smith.

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Actually, in general, this Bowel season hasn't even provided good games. Just ****ty selectons of "at large" teams in the BCS games in order to guarantee traditional conference teams an easy win.

Hindsight is 20/20, but after Boise's Miracle just a year ago I think it's moronic to act like you didn't think Hawaii had a shot.

WVU-OU is looking good.

No good bowl games? The Poinsettia, Las Vegas, Hawaii, Motor City, Armed Forces, Music City, Peach, Outback, Gator and Capital One Bowls were all epix. And that's not even counting all the other games decided by a touchdown or less that I didn't get a chance to watch.

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I think LSU/OSU is enough of a title game to work in the idiotic situation we have right now.

You could make good arguments for or against any of the top 5 or 6 in the BCS standings- there's no happy ending solution to be found this year.

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I think its going to be a massive blowout in favor of LSU

Your fellow cajuns been pouring that purple and gold kool-aid down your throat?

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If it isn't and it goes OSU's way, expect every major program to stop scheduling out of conference and pull an OSU (schedule every chumpchange directional school in the state while praying your conference sucks)

Pulling an Ohio State would be scheduling home and aways with traditional power schools like Texas, USC, Miami (FL), Cal and Virginia Tech-which Ohio State has done- this year is the exception, not the rule.

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Good to see Carr and those seniors go out on top and get carried out by his team. Sadly, he'll only be remembered as that coach that couldn't get it done in some stupid rivalry,

Oh, the naiveness of outsiders.

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not as a solid coach that brought half a national championship

Fix'd.

GURU ANT · 01-02-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy727

I think if Hart played for a school not named Michigan he would never have even been considered in Heisman talks, regardless of if he deserved it or not. See: Kevin Smith.

Yes

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy727

No good bowl games? The Poinsettia, Las Vegas, Hawaii, Motor City, Armed Forces, Music City, Peach, Outback, Gator and Capital One Bowls were all epix. And that's not even counting all the other games decided by a touchdown or less that I didn't get a chance to watch.

Which is why I don't care for bowl games, way to many for them to be anything special. It's just another exhibition if you aint in the championship.

ShyGuy727 · 01-03-2008, 01:34 AM

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Which is why I don't care for bowl games, way to many for them to be anything special. It's just another exhibition if you aint in the championship.

It's football. It's entertainment.

And I'm sure it's not "just another exhibition" to the players, coaches, schools and fans involved.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-03-2008, 01:48 AM

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And I'm sure it's not "just another exhibition" to the players, coaches, schools and fans involved.

Say that about the Champs Sports Bowl, the Motor City Bowl, the Pointsettia Bowl, the Las Vegas Bowl, or that game up in Boise.

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in an age where academic standards and successful football are generally not equally high.

Florida, Texas, and USC are all top 50 schools academically. -CSM

ShyGuy727 · 01-03-2008, 04:07 AM

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Say that about the Champs Sports Bowl, the Motor City Bowl, the Pointsettia Bowl, the Las Vegas Bowl, or that game up in Boise.

The schools get exposure for their program, which helps for recruiting and sponsorships, plus they get a ton of money for just showing up. And what 21 year old college student doesn't love an all expense paid trip to Vegas for New Years? If you're an AD or a player at a mid-major or middle-tier program, ya can't lose.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-03-2008, 11:02 AM

^Tell that to we-thought-we-should've-been-in-the-Peach-Bowl Boston College. -CSM

ShyGuy727 · 01-03-2008, 11:49 AM

What the hell are you even saying?

Lurch1982 · 01-03-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy727

I think if Hart played for a school not named Michigan he would never have even been considered in Heisman talks, regardless of if he deserved it or not. See: Kevin Smith.

Hindsight is 20/20, but after Boise's Miracle just a year ago I think it's moronic to act like you didn't think Hawaii had a shot.

WVU-OU is looking good.

No good bowl games? The Poinsettia, Las Vegas, Hawaii, Motor City, Armed Forces, Music City, Peach, Outback, Gator and Capital One Bowls were all epix. And that's not even counting all the other games decided by a touchdown or less that I didn't get a chance to watch.

You could make good arguments for or against any of the top 5 or 6 in the BCS standings- there's no happy ending solution to be found this year.

Your fellow cajuns been pouring that purple and gold kool-aid down your throat?

Pulling an Ohio State would be scheduling home and aways with traditional power schools like Texas, USC, Miami (FL), Cal and Virginia Tech-which Ohio State has done- this year is the exception, not the rule.

Oh, the naiveness of outsiders.

Fix'd.

I can't stand UGA or their classless fans, hence me pulling for Hawaii. Seriously though, looking at the idiotic system in place, the game that should have happened was USC/UGA and letting Hawaii and Illinois or some other at-large fight it out.

WV-OU looked good until the second quarter, when WV's O showed up and OU never did. 48-28 blowout ftl.

Minor bowls are like saying preseason baseball is compelling and interesting. It is to a point, but nobody cares. I mean, if I were a fan of a one game over .500, I'd be stoked my team was playing in some irrelevant bowl game in the middle of nowhere sponsored by some company's dot-com address that I've never heard of. But really, it's ultimately an exhibition game meaning nothing. If I wouldn't have cared about the matchup in October, I probably won't care now.

Reasoning on blowout: OSU hasn't been tested. OSU lost to Illinois, who isn't as fast. LSU's D is healthy and rested. LSU has a homefield advantage. LSU was tested out of conference and blew out Va Tech and only lost in 3OT in their losses. I just don't see OSU getting through LSU's defense to keep it close.

You think anyone is going to schedule home/aways with power opponents if you guys win this year? I know if I were an AD I wouldn't. The polls are easily manipulated as it stands. Expect to see more schedules filled with directional-podunk-U.

Please. We both know Carr's legacy is LLLLLLLyod Carr, not to mention that whole Appy State incident.

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Florida, Texas, and USC are all top 50 schools academically. -CSM

Michigan's 25 on US New and World's rankings. Only quasi-football/all-sports schools above them are Cal (21), UCLA (tied at 25), Virginia (if they really count: 23) and ND (19). If you go into the top 50 and pull out the consistant powerhouses, its Michigan, Texas, and USC, with Michigan being highest. Schools with passable football programs in the top fifty are less than 10 total.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-03-2008, 11:12 PM

If you want to look at tough schedules next year, look at UGA's schedule for next year. Yes, they have Georgia Southern on it, but they also have:

AT Arizona State
AT LSU
AT Auburn
AT Florida on a neutral field that's a day trip from Florida's campus

Not to mention the usuals, Tennessee and Georgia Tech, at home. -CSM

ShyGuy727 · 01-04-2008, 03:06 PM

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Reasoning on blowout: OSU hasn't been tested. OSU lost to Illinois who isn't as fast

While Illinois may not have the same overall team speed as LSU, I don't think Perriloux or Flynn are as fast as Juice. LSU doesn't have the legs at QB to run a lot of read-option plays, which is what killed us against Illinois more than anything.

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LSU has a homefield advantage

I think this might be the most overrated factor for this game- Ohio State played and thrived in two (well, three I guess if you count the Big House) of the loudest stadiums in college football, Husky Stadium and Beaver Stadium (at night to boot). Look at the Rose Bowl- even with the close proximity to USC, it was still probably only 60-40 in favor of Trojan fans. Big Ten fans travel as well as anyone in the country, and even if the Bucknuts are outnumbered it won't be my much and won't be that big a deal.

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You think anyone is going to schedule home/aways with power opponents if you guys win this year? I know if I were an AD I wouldn't. The polls are easily manipulated as it stands. Expect to see more schedules filled with directional-podunk-U.

Other than Virginia Tech, LSU's OOC was pathetic. I think most ADs recognize that this is the most ****ed up season in college football history and that something like this more than likely won't happen again in our lifetime.

Or LSU will win and ADs will see they can have a heavy ass schedule, lose a game or two and still make it to the big game.

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Michigan's 25 on US New and World's rankings. Only quasi-football/all-sports schools above them are Cal (21), UCLA (tied at 25), Virginia (if they really count: 23) and ND (19). If you go into the top 50 and pull out the consistant powerhouses, its Michigan, Texas, and USC, with Michigan being highest. Schools with passable football programs in the top fifty are less than 10 total.

Less than 10? I'm not sure what you qualify as passable or what list you're looking at, but surely there's 10 out of these: Notre Dame, Cal, UVA, Michigan, USC, Wake, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Wisconsin, Washington, Texas, Penn State, Florida.

Lurch1982 · 01-04-2008, 03:26 PM

LSU runs something similar to the Pats. Your corners are likely going to get raped much like they did against Florida last year. This was the wrong matchup for the Buckeyes to land. Anyone else (save maybe USC) would have been a better choice.

Domes amplify crowd noise. Granted, it won't be as much of a factor as it should because a large chunk of the tickets are in the hands of sponsors and politicians. Another major quirk I have with events like the BCSBGatE and All-Star games. Regardless, SEC fans are loud and obnoxious. They put SoCal fans to shame. Not to mention violent (looking at you UGA fans you classless bastards).

Oh, I'm not defending their OoC at all. They smashed directional Louisiana too much for my tastes. They did, however, manage to blow out a team ranked in the top 5 and that ONE game is more than Ohio played. Not to mention the whole better conference thing.

Washington, UVA and Wake are football power schools?

You're still looking at consistant football power schools making up a handful of the USN&W top 50 academics. Top 25 is lighter. That's the point.

Lurch1982 · 01-07-2008, 08:43 PM

And to be fair, if OSU blows out LSU, I'll be happy. It might happen since LSU is acting like they're playing in Ohio.

5/5 in lopsided BCS games is what I'm rooting for.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-07-2008, 09:49 PM

24-10 LSU right now. -CSM

Lurch1982 · 01-07-2008, 10:25 PM

LOL at Ohio pinching this loaf away. 31-10.

Lurch1982 · 01-07-2008, 11:46 PM

5/5 in blowouts for the BCS. Way to go NCAA Football!

Ohio once again got raped by an SEC team. When will they ever get it done?

01-02-2008, 06:10 PM	#1
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,461.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,186.14 Donate	Bowl games suck. More like Bowel games. Georgia "kept it classy." By that, I mean the complete opposite on every aspect of it. Their fans caused trouble in the streets before and after the game, and were generally rude jerks. Hawaii's fans were great OTOH and are exactly what you want to see if you're a host city: A group of people who are dumping tons of money into local businesses while behaving and generally acting like decent human beings. Yeah UGA fan, keep chanting overrated and whining about how you belong in the big game at the end when you couldn't win your division, let alone your conference. GTFO. You're like Met fan whininig that they would have swept out every other team in the NL playoffs last season after choking out of the race. The Rose Bowel movement wasn't much better. USC slaughtered Illinois (making you wonder how badly LSU is going to jump on the skull of the Buckeyes). Really, the matchup we should have seen was UGA/USC and Hawaii/Illinois. Actually, I also wind up questioning how Kansas got into a BCS game while Mizzou sat on the sidelines and stomped on Arkansux (BTW, go Houston Nutt you failure. You chased out three top offensive recruits at QB and WR because you refused to even attempt to pass the ball, hope you have another affair at whatever dump you went to). Actually, in general, this Bowel season hasn't even provided good games. Just ****ty selectons of "at large" teams in the BCS games in order to guarantee traditional conference teams an easy win.

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01-04-2008, 03:26 PM	#16
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,461.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,186.14 Donate	LSU runs something similar to the Pats. Your corners are likely going to get raped much like they did against Florida last year. This was the wrong matchup for the Buckeyes to land. Anyone else (save maybe USC) would have been a better choice. Domes amplify crowd noise. Granted, it won't be as much of a factor as it should because a large chunk of the tickets are in the hands of sponsors and politicians. Another major quirk I have with events like the BCSBGatE and All-Star games. Regardless, SEC fans are loud and obnoxious. They put SoCal fans to shame. Not to mention violent (looking at you UGA fans you classless bastards). Oh, I'm not defending their OoC at all. They smashed directional Louisiana too much for my tastes. They did, however, manage to blow out a team ranked in the top 5 and that ONE game is more than Ohio played. Not to mention the whole better conference thing. Washington, UVA and Wake are football power schools? You're still looking at consistant football power schools making up a handful of the USN&W top 50 academics. Top 25 is lighter. That's the point.

01-07-2008, 08:43 PM	#17
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,461.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,186.14 Donate	And to be fair, if OSU blows out LSU, I'll be happy. It might happen since LSU is acting like they're playing in Ohio. 5/5 in lopsided BCS games is what I'm rooting for.

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Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,461.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,186.14 Donate	LOL at Ohio pinching this loaf away. 31-10.

01-07-2008, 11:46 PM	#20
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,461.03 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 375,186.14 Donate	5/5 in blowouts for the BCS. Way to go NCAA Football! Ohio once again got raped by an SEC team. When will they ever get it done?