College football 2010

[Crazyswordsman]

Might as well start it now since.....

They released the coaches' poll.

I think the rankings are pretty fair at the top. Here's my outlook:

Big East: Now is the time for Pitt to shine; Pat White is gone from WVU and it doesn't look like anyone else, except maybe Cincy, can compete.

ACC: Virginia Tech again

SEC: Florida. Best team in the nation hands down, as much as I hate them.

Big Ten: Penn State. Yes, Terelle Pryor is the the best QB in the Big Ten, but his supporting cast is gone. Darryl Clark still has some of his. One player does not a team make.

Big XII: Texas. Ah, the great Texas-OU debate will continue this year, but I expect Texas to come out on top this time.

USC and the Nine Dwarves: I don't think this needs to be said. Still, I do think SC has to prove itself out of conference considering they have their third starting QB in just as many years.

Mountain West: I'm going to go with TCU this year. Utah lost their starting QB, and BYU always underperforms. -CSM

[Panfan]

I usually don't follow anybody outside of Michigan/MSU but I'll probably be paying more attention to at least the Big Ten this season.

[Lurch1982]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Might as well start it now since.....

They released the coaches' poll.

I think the rankings are pretty fair at the top. Here's my outlook:

Big East: Now is the time for Pitt to shine; Pat White is gone from WVU and it doesn't look like anyone else, except maybe Cincy, can compete.

ACC: Virginia Tech again

SEC: Florida. Best team in the nation hands down, as much as I hate them.

Big Ten: Penn State. Yes, Terelle Pryor is the the best QB in the Big Ten, but his supporting cast is gone. Darryl Clark still has some of his. One player does not a team make.

Big XII: Texas. Ah, the great Texas-OU debate will continue this year, but I expect Texas to come out on top this time.

USC and the Nine Dwarves: I don't think this needs to be said. Still, I do think SC has to prove itself out of conference considering they have their third starting QB in just as many years.

Mountain West: I'm going to go with TCU this year. Utah lost their starting QB, and BYU always underperforms. -CSM

Big East sucks.

Ditto with ACC.

Florida is clearly the best in the SEC. They have two clear trap games: @LSU in September and Florida St. The other teams to watch are the usual suspects (LSU UGA) and Alabama. Alabama will either be out or in really early: they open @VT. Rest of their OoC is typical SEC scheduling (meaning tons of Sunbelt or worse trash). They get LSU at home, don't play UGA or FLA, and only have to deal with UK, Ole Miss, Miss St, and Auburn on the road (Auburn is the closer, may or may not be a trap). LSU has a **** OoC. Directional LA, Tulane, and @ Wash. They have rough games on the road in UGA and Alabama. They have a rough in conference schedule (Fla, UGA, Ala).

Why do you think Texas will get the upper hand over OU? UT has an obvious trap (@Mizzou) + the h2h OU game. Really, it doesn't matter until someone in that conference plays defense. They're going to get shut down in the NC.

USC may not be the clearcut winner. Three trap games: @tOSU, @ND, @Oregon. Ohio is a legit OoC test. ND may have more than a retarded trophy on the line, because I just can't see them keeping Weis if he gets annihilated by USC on their home turf AGAIN. Oregon in Eugene is always rough. Oregon could also be a sleeper. Decent OoC (@ Boise St., hosting Purdue and Utah) could mean that a USC upset would push them past the Trojans.

[Crazyswordsman]

^ND is always overrated and you know it. And like I said, SC has yet to prove themselves out of conference (I think tOSU will destroy them, and ND will be a gimmie game until the Irish start playing some defense). Oregon I don't know much about.

Mizzou lost two of their biggest playmakers in Jeremy Maclin and Chase Daniel. I don't see how Mizzou can be a trap game for Texas. And I picked Texas because in that conference, they have something that most resembles a defense.

Bama will do well thanks to its defense, but they lost a veteran QB in John Parker Wilson (I HATE that name :P). They still have that receiver #8 (I forget his name though). I don't think they'll be contending at the top.

And it's not Directional LA; it's ULUPICKEM . Directional LA is the Southland Conference. -CSM

[Lurch1982]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^ND is always overrated and you know it. And like I said, SC has yet to prove themselves out of conference (I think tOSU will destroy them, and ND will be a gimmie game until the Irish start playing some defense). Oregon I don't know much about.

Mizzou lost two of their biggest playmakers in Jeremy Maclin and Chase Daniel. I don't see how Mizzou can be a trap game for Texas. And I picked Texas because in that conference, they have something that most resembles a defense.

Bama will do well thanks to its defense, but they lost a veteran QB in John Parker Wilson (I HATE that name :P). They still have that receiver #8 (I forget his name though). I don't think they'll be contending at the top.

And it's not Directional LA; it's ULUPICKEM . Directional LA is the Southland Conference. -CSM

Are you stupid? USC annihilated tOSU last year and did the world a favor by knocking the Buckeyes out of the NC so early that we didn't have to wait to see them get blown out by Florida. USC's been steadily tested in OoC this decade because they've been placed in BCS bowls every single year, including two NCs.

ND is always overrated, yes. Going into their house is still sort of intimidating, and Weis has to be running out of rope to hang himself with. Dude HAS to win this game or he's basically ruined (don't see a good program hiring him on if he can't get an overrated recruiting class to produce, and I don't see the pros hiring a loser coach at anything less than a coordinator position). Its a trap game because they should not lose it at all, and I have a feeling it may be Weis's last stand.

I don't really think Texas has a D at all (or really anyone in that conference). Expect a ton of 35-42 style scores in the Big XII again, and laugh as they get shut down by any team that can play defense and put up 20+ points (sorry Little 11).

Bama will do well because they have a garbage schedule and their side of the SEC is weaksauce outside of LSU. Auburn and Arkansas are total messes right now and the rest don't pay enough money to get players. LSU (if they have a proper QB this year instead of a committee taking over for an expelled player) is the only team on their in conference schedule that can score at will (they've been basically built like USC without the QB pedigree). Hopefully VaTech "USCs-to-tOSUs" them in week one so they're dead before it really starts.

ULUPICKEM is a retarded moniker that I've never really liked from the bottom 10. Directional-STATENAMEHERE is a better general term for dissecting ****ty OoC games in Football (like when Ohio did the tour of all of the lesser Ohio schools for its OoC, or Michigan beats up on directional-Michigan).

[Crazyswordsman]

^Last year USC had Mark Sanchez. Now they don't have a proven QB.

ND can't be that intimidating if SYRACUSE of all teams can beat them in South Bend. -CSM

[Lurch1982]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^Last year USC had Mark Sanchez. Now they don't have a proven QB.

ND can't be that intimidating if SYRACUSE of all teams can beat them in South Bend. -CSM

USC has also landed constant bluechip recruiting classes. They just need a dude that can run the offense. They're also stacked at every other position, making a QB learning curve more manageable (since they have top level WRs, OL, DL, LB, CB, HB).

ND really isn't THAT intimidating unless they show that Weis' classes weren't overrated. Clausen is legit, and I feel bad that he's being David Carr'd in South Bend (horrible OL, no true legit HB to take the pressure off). Still a trap game for USC because I really think Weis' head is riding on it. ND may not be a top level program, but they're certainly not as bad as you're insinuating (you make them sound like a bottom half Sun Belt team).

[Glux]

I hope Michigan gets a winning record this year. :/

I think it would be funny to see Ohio State go to the BCS and get their asses kicked for 3 years in a row.

[ShyGuy727]

^ Oh yeah they totally got obliterated last year

Penn State. Yes, Terelle Pryor is the the best QB in the Big Ten, but his supporting cast is gone. Darryl Clark still has some of his. One player does not a team make.

Do you actually look at any sort of information before you write? If by "some" of his supporting cast you mean two tight ends and injury prone Evan Royster. Both return the same number of starters on offense. Clark's top three receivers from last year are all gone, and only two of the big guys in front of him are back. They also have huge gaps in the secondary. Ohio State returns nearly 50 more starts, better coaching, better recruiting, TP=LeBron in cleats, etc etc. State will start out 4-0 thanks to an absolute abortion of a non-conference schedule (Akron, Temple, Syracuse, NIU), be ridiculously hyped before dropping 2 or 3 in con and JoePa will be "coaching" from a home by season's end.

[Glux]

Originally Posted by ShyGuy727

^ Oh yeah they totally got obliterated last year

But they still lost, and that good enough for me.

[Lurch1982]

Originally Posted by ShyGuy727

^ Oh yeah they totally got obliterated last year



Do you actually look at any sort of information before you write? If by "some" of his supporting cast you mean two tight ends and injury prone Evan Royster. Both return the same number of starters on offense. Clark's top three receivers from last year are all gone, and only two of the big guys in front of him are back. They also have huge gaps in the secondary. Ohio State returns nearly 50 more starts, better coaching, better recruiting, TP=LeBron in cleats, etc etc. State will start out 4-0 thanks to an absolute abortion of a non-conference schedule (Akron, Temple, Syracuse, NIU), be ridiculously hyped before dropping 2 or 3 in con and JoePa will be "coaching" from a home by season's end.

If OSU wins against USC early in, they should have an inside track to the Big 10 title and a NC asswhipping by Florida.

SG, check your PMs/yahoo fantasy.

[Crazyswordsman]

^I would sooner pick tOSU over a Big XII team with no defense if tOSU can make one of those happen again. -CSM

[Lurch1982]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^I would sooner pick tOSU over a Big XII team with no defense if tOSU can make one of those happen again. -CSM

I wouldn't unless tOSU can show that it can score at will. I'd be concerned that a Big XII team that can't play defense would just outshoot them.

[Crazyswordsman]

You'd have to be an extraordinary QB if you want to take down a good defense. This is why SEC beats Big XII: Defense more often than not beats offense. -CSM

[Lurch1982]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

You'd have to be an extraordinary QB if you want to take down a good defense. This is why SEC beats Big XII: Defense more often than not beats offense. -CSM

How many Big 10 schools run a spread (or rather, have it fully implemented and recuited so it'll actually work)? How many can score at will? Their defense as a whole is better than average, but the bulk of the schools run power football. Match them up against a fast offense that spreads the field, and the results are not pretty.

Florida beat OU because they can score at will and their defense was/is basically pro-level (speed and power, giant DBs). A team like, say, Alabama, would have been slaughtered by OU (Or UT, or possibly even TT) because the defense couldn't be spread around and the offense can't score at will (ie: keep up with a high powered offense).

[Crazyswordsman]

The AP poll is out.

Here's my question: the worst team in the Big East beat Notre Dame last year. Assuming these numbers are based off of last year somewhat, how is Notre Dame ahead of the entire Big East, considering they lost to the worst team in that conference? -CSM

[Lurch1982]

(1) Notre Dame is perpetually overrated.
(2) They finished strong with a blowout in the Hawaii bowl (yeah yeah).
(3) They've persistently landed top ranked recruiting classes under Weis, so the logic is that something has to break their way eventually.

It isn't nearly as atrocious as that toothless senile old bastard Lou Holtz picking them for the big game at the end.

[Crazyswordsman]

^I have yet to see something happen with these supposed top recruiting classes. There are plenty of coaches who do better with their recruits than Charlie Weis. -CSM

[Lurch1982]

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^I have yet to see something happen with these supposed top recruiting classes. There are plenty of coaches who do better with their recruits than Charlie Weis. -CSM

I like their QB. Clausen looks legit, and looks to have a promising pro career. Anything else? Not really impressed. I agree, and its also why Weis is on a hotseat in South Bend right now. I can't really see them keeping him if he has another mediocre year.

[Crazyswordsman]

Most QBs with good pro careers don't have spectacular college careers. And Clausen suffers from no O-line. I can see them beating Michigan and the service academies but that's about it. They'll go 7-5 at best.

I hope the Big East doesn't underachieve like it did last year. Every other year it proved all the haters wrong, but it probably will underachieve again. -CSM