Pac-16?

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-09-2010, 09:15 PM

It's only a matter of time now.

And with Nebraska and maybe Mizzou going to the Little Eleven, what's gonna become of Kansas?

Maybe these 16 team conferences will be the first step towards a breaking of conferences into eight teams. -CSM

**Deku Trii** · 06-09-2010, 09:53 PM

I'm for it. It means A&M gets more money and exposure, so that's a plus. I've got friends who will be annoyed that Baylor's getting left out, but they were lucky to get into the Big 12 in the first place.

Don't know why this would lead to 8 team conferences or what the benefit of that would be.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-10-2010, 03:59 AM

^Complete round robins. -CSM

**Marchie** · 06-10-2010, 11:54 AM

One down.

Lurch1982 · 06-10-2010, 05:26 PM

They won't break up into 8 team conferences unless the Bowl system is abolished.

Baylor would be better off joining CUSA imo.

Robotazy · 06-10-2010, 05:30 PM

Or the Pac league could just absorb the entire NCAA and hold it hostage.

Jailbreaker · 06-10-2010, 06:13 PM

I clicked on this expecting a new Pac-Man game.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-11-2010, 03:32 PM

If Colorado goes to the Pac-10 and Nebraska to the Little Eleven, can the Big Ten and Big XII swap names and trademarks? -CSM

**Deku Trii** · 06-11-2010, 04:06 PM

Sounds like A&M may consider parting ways with UT and join the SEC. I'd be okay with that if we still played each other every year.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-11-2010, 06:14 PM

^You probably would. It would be like Georgia-Georgia Tech, Florida-Florida State, South Carolina-Clemson, Colorado-Colorado State, Utah-Utah State, and Louisville-Kentucky. -CSM

Glux · 06-11-2010, 06:33 PM

How did this whole "redrawing conference lines" begin anyway?

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-11-2010, 07:41 PM

^Where else? Jim Delaney and his $$$-grubbing ass. -CSM

**Deku Trii** · 06-11-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^You probably would. It would be like Georgia-Georgia Tech, Florida-Florida State, South Carolina-Clemson, Colorado-Colorado State, Utah-Utah State, and Louisville-Kentucky. -CSM

I've read rumors that A&M is going to get blackballed by all the former teams of the Big XII South in all sports if they go to the SEC, with the idea being that doing so would make Texas A&M irrelevant in the state of Texas and would limit the reach of SEC into the Texas recruiting and TV market.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-12-2010, 01:31 AM

^Then they're hypocrites if they leave the Big XII too. -CSM

**Deku Trii** · 06-14-2010, 07:49 PM

Well it looks like the remaining Big XII teams are sticking together and UT is getting its own TV channel or something. The schools will all get a lot more money, especially Texas, A&M, and OU, and the rivalries will be preserved, but damn if this isn't the least exciting way this could have gone down.

Lurch1982 · 06-14-2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deku Trii

OU, UT and A&M will all get a lot more money.

Fixed.

This is a temporary solution barring them trapping the have-nots in the conference with excessive buyout clauses. Their deal is going to be about 78M, and 20M each is going to OU/UT/A&M with the rest split up between Tech, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Mizzou, Ok. St. and Iowa St.

Keep that in mind. 60M split between 3 teams with 20M split between 7. Total garbage deal, especially considering Texas will further get more with their own network. That was the sticking point: exactly how much money UT can fleece off of a conference.

They managed to keep the auto-berths in basketball and football, but they've lost a championship game (exposure, money) and two teams, one of which is a generally solid football team and the other has a major city market. They need to expand, but I don't see anyone they could land that would help the conference more than hurt it outside of reaching for Memphis (and UH).

The only winner here is UT. Everyone else loses.

**Deku Trii** · 06-14-2010, 11:05 PM

ESPN was reporting that the other 7 schools would be getting 14-17M annually each out of the deal.

Lurch1982 · 06-15-2010, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deku Trii

ESPN was reporting that the other 7 schools would be getting 14-17M annually each out of the deal.

I saw that too, which really doesn't make sense since they reported the TV deal to be worth about 80M.

60M for OU/UT/A&M + 17*7 = 179M.

This is the article I'm referring to:
Texas, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State stay put in Big 12 Conference - ESPN

It really is kind of unclear. At one point they say the other 7 schools take home about 14-17M, but at other points they say they divided up about 7-10M. That combined with the sidebar with the estimate of about 80M for the TV contract suggests that 60M goes to three teams and the 14-17M goes to the other teams. That works with what they suggest the contract's worth.

**Crazyswordsman** · 06-15-2010, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deku Trii

Well it looks like the remaining Big XII teams are sticking together and UT is getting its own TV channel or something. The schools will all get a lot more money, especially Texas, A&M, and OU, and the rivalries will be preserved, but damn if this isn't the least exciting way this could have gone down.

So can the Big Ten and Big XII officially swap names now? -CSM

**Deku Trii** · 06-16-2010, 09:33 AM

I was hoping one of them ends up the Big F-ing Deal.

06-09-2010, 09:15 PM	#1
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	Pac-16? It's only a matter of time now. And with Nebraska and maybe Mizzou going to the Little Eleven, what's gonna become of Kansas? Maybe these 16 team conferences will be the first step towards a breaking of conferences into eight teams. -CSM

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Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	It can't actually do this, I'm sure. Or the Pac league could just absorb the entire NCAA and hold it hostage.

06-09-2010, 09:53 PM	#2
Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	I'm for it. It means A&M gets more money and exposure, so that's a plus. I've got friends who will be annoyed that Baylor's getting left out, but they were lucky to get into the Big 12 in the first place. Don't know why this would lead to 8 team conferences or what the benefit of that would be.

06-10-2010, 03:59 AM	#3
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Complete round robins. -CSM

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Marchie Pokeman Master since 1999 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Wiscaaaaaaaaaaansin/Michigan Gender: Posts: 16,647 Thanks: 1,442 Thanked 680 Times in 477 Posts	One down.

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Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: DenCo Gender: Posts: 9,850 Thanks: 127 Thanked 365 Times in 192 Posts	They won't break up into 8 team conferences unless the Bowl system is abolished. Baylor would be better off joining CUSA imo.

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Jailbreaker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Not in jail anymore, yay! Gender: Posts: 3,482 Thanks: 1,074 Thanked 185 Times in 118 Posts	I clicked on this expecting a new Pac-Man game.

06-11-2010, 03:32 PM	#8
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	If Colorado goes to the Pac-10 and Nebraska to the Little Eleven, can the Big Ten and Big XII swap names and trademarks? -CSM

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Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	Sounds like A&M may consider parting ways with UT and join the SEC. I'd be okay with that if we still played each other every year.

06-11-2010, 06:14 PM	#10
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^You probably would. It would be like Georgia-Georgia Tech, Florida-Florida State, South Carolina-Clemson, Colorado-Colorado State, Utah-Utah State, and Louisville-Kentucky. -CSM

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Glux Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Home Gender: Posts: 7,122 Thanks: 647 Thanked 360 Times in 236 Posts Blog Entries: 3	How did this whole "redrawing conference lines" begin anyway?

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Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Where else? Jim Delaney and his $$$-grubbing ass. -CSM

06-12-2010, 01:31 AM	#14
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Then they're hypocrites if they leave the Big XII too. -CSM

06-14-2010, 07:49 PM	#15
Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	Well it looks like the remaining Big XII teams are sticking together and UT is getting its own TV channel or something. The schools will all get a lot more money, especially Texas, A&M, and OU, and the rivalries will be preserved, but damn if this isn't the least exciting way this could have gone down.

06-14-2010, 11:05 PM	#17
Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	ESPN was reporting that the other 7 schools would be getting 14-17M annually each out of the deal.

06-16-2010, 09:33 AM	#20
Deku Trii PP&R Mod Current Events Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texas Gender: Posts: 9,031 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,099 Times in 583 Posts	I was hoping one of them ends up the Big F-ing Deal.