Hardest and Easierst Square-enix bosses? (Possible spoilers)

08-19-2003, 02:39 PM

EDIT: No flaming people because they think a boss *Cough*Lavos*cough* was hard because they were probably at low levels.
EDITII: I forgot to mention that these are people's OPINIONS.

Hardest:
FF1: Chaos, Warmech at low levels
FF2: The emperor without Blood Swords
FF4: Odin
FF5: Garula, Liquid Flame, Omega
FF6: Um...Atma weapon was pretty hard
FF7: That stupid Emerald and Ruby weapon. ARG!
FF8: Ultemecia without Megalixirs
FF9: Gizmaluke, Hades, Ozma. (ARGH!!)
FFX: Seymour.
FFMQ: None since the game was too easy.
FFT: Velius, Elmdor, Arch Angel (I HATE GRAND CROSS!!)
CT: Lavos shell because I was at low levels.
CC: Dragon Gods
KH: Riku w Keyblade, Giant Ursula, Dragon
SMRPG: Smithy 2nd form (Because it's long), Culex (Though he was actually pretty easy for me)

Easiest:
FF1: Garland
FF2: Borghen
FF3: The Final Boss
FF4: Zeromus
FF5: Neo-Exdeath
FF6: Kefka, Ghosttrain
FF7: The Turks, Sephiroth, Jenova (All phases)
FF8: Ultemecia with Megalixirs
FF9: Necron, Kuja, TranceKuja
FFX: Sin
FFMQ: Dark King (And i'm not talking about using Cure magic on him)
FFT: Queklain, That one Zodiac Brave before Altima who's name I forgot, Adramelk, Zalbag
KH: Guard Armor, Darkside, Clayton
SMRPG: Smithy first form, Bowser, roughly 90% of the bosses
CT: Dragon Tank, Magus, Lavos 2nd and Core

[ August 19, 2003, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: Douglas Salgoud ]

08-19-2003, 03:52 PM

Dude, the whole Smithy battle is more long than difficult.

You thought Lavos's Shell was hard? And Long? You need help.

08-19-2003, 05:07 PM

[CHRONO TRIGGER SPOILERS]
If you fight it [Lavos, 1st form] after it is summoned by Zeal, then it's actually very challenging (and impossible on your first visit). The reason is because you are supposed to lose the battle, so they made him harder than he normally is.

Namyar RULES!!!
[Todays date here: Message editied by Namyar]

Don't make me come up there!
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~Rayman FREAK (Pagemaster of Rayman ULTIMATE)

08-19-2003, 06:48 PM

FF1:
Easiest: Pirates
Hardest: WARMECH!

FF8:
Easiest: Ifrit
Hardest: Omega Weapon

FF9:
Easiest: Steiner
Hardest: Ozma

08-19-2003, 08:46 PM

Thank you Rayman Freak, that's what I was referring too, I guess I wasn't specific enough about when I fought him, I said he was long because I was at low levels.

Wyborn · 08-19-2003, 08:59 PM

Zeromus? Easiest boss in the game? Captain Big Bang?

Holy crow what is wrong with you?

08-19-2003, 09:06 PM

^...Was Zeromus supposed to be hard?

Wyborn · 08-19-2003, 09:10 PM

Hardest FF final boss, to me. Unless, of course, you were at level 50+ in the American version or 80+ in the Japanese version

08-19-2003, 10:45 PM

My Characters were around level 60 or so, Because I always assume that the Final Boss is pretty hard, which is why I always level up a lot in the last dungeons, I learnt the hard way that being at low levels in a FF can spell disaster in the last battle (From FF1 of course, but the Final boss of FF3 is easy either way)

[ August 19, 2003, 10:47 PM: Message edited by: Douglas Salgoud ]

Pentagon · 08-19-2003, 10:54 PM

^Blegh, Zeromus was bloody hard! Even at level 54, he knocked out almost all my characters and I ended up with Rosa fighting it alone and right as I try to revive Cecil, boom, he kills Rosa. I guess Douglas must have been at a really really high level and was lucky.

[ August 19, 2003, 10:56 PM: Message edited by: Zak likes Peaches, ya? ]

08-20-2003, 08:51 PM

Hardest:
FF1: Astos - well, beating him without losing a character is hard.
FF2: Asteroth
FF3: Kracken - lets not mince words. This guy is an annoying little bastard with his high level spells.
FF4: Dark Bahamut
FF5: Shinryu - possibly the hardest boss in the series.
FF6: Magi Master
FF7: Goldo
FF8: Diablos - if you try him right after getting the lamp, and you've been playing normally.
FFT: Wiegraf (Riovannes) - well, now that I know it's coming, it can be made really easy, as can any battle in FFT.
CT: Giga Gaia - fast and powerful for that point of the game. Probably wouldn't have beat him without Marle.
SMRPG: Jinx - a lot harder than Culex because you need to time him. Honorable mentions go to Countdown and Ding-a-ling and Bundt.

Easiest:
FF1: Chaos - fast, punch, dead.
FF2: Emperor
FF3: Dark Cloud - it only has one attack that won't kill you if you just follow a single pattern of offense.
FF4: Kainazzo
FF5: the two hunters on your way to the Hiryu.
FF6: everything besides Magi Master
FF7: Safer Sephiroth
FF8: everything
FFT: Elmdor - a boss at the height of T.G. Cid's power?
SMRPG: Yaridovich
CT: Queen Zeal (first form)

08-20-2003, 10:22 PM

Hardest
FF4: The evil wall (more to the fact it creeped me out, and i never liked fighting it)
FF6: I forget
FFT: Balk 2, Wiegraf/velius
CT: I forget

Easiest:
FF4: I thought zeromous was easy, just really really long
FF6: the thing you fight at the end of locke's scenario. I can't remember the name.
FFT: Kletian (i'd vote queklain, but he got me stuck on my solo ramza save)

08-21-2003, 12:09 AM

Easy:
FF1: Pirate Captain
FF4: Mist Dragon
FF5: I forget.
FF6:The first boss
FF7: Guard Scorpion
FF8: Biggs and Wedge
FF9: Steiner
FFX: Sin...encounter 1 with the fin thingy in Zanarkand.
FFT: Gafgorian at the Waterfalls.
SO2: Alen Tax
Saga Frontier: Diva (DREAM SUPER COMBO x5!!!!)
Parasite Eve: First battle with Eve
Xenogears: Dan

Hard:
FF: WarMech
FF5: That book in the library
FF6: Goddess could get tricky
FF7: Ruby Weapon
FF8: Ultimecia final forrm
FF9: Hades
FFX: That thing you fight during the Crusader battle.
SO2: Gabriel Celeste...I can't beat her.
Saga Frontier: Satan got real tricky
Parasite Eve: The final boss in the Chrysler Building gave me mucho problemas.

[ August 21, 2003, 12:12 AM: Message edited by: Rattan ]

Falco53 · 08-21-2003, 02:33 PM

It all depends on how you play the game. I have abandoned running away from fights (except FF5 and its Chicken Knife) thus boss fights have become much easier. When I finished FF4 I was around level 65+.

FF4:
I remember very little from FF4. The toughest boss for me in that game was the Demon Wall dude. I used the trick where you get the crystal ahead of time, thus I played through the dungeon without Kain.

FF6:
The hardest time I've ever had with an FF boss was with Ultros for the first time. I was a RPG novice at the time so I had ran from many fights and I didn't know how to use the characters.

08-19-2003, 02:39 PM	#1
Sim Kid Guest Posts: n/a	EDIT: No flaming people because they think a boss CoughLavoscough was hard because they were probably at low levels. EDITII: I forgot to mention that these are people's OPINIONS. Hardest: FF1: Chaos, Warmech at low levels FF2: The emperor without Blood Swords FF4: Odin FF5: Garula, Liquid Flame, Omega FF6: Um...Atma weapon was pretty hard FF7: That stupid Emerald and Ruby weapon. ARG! FF8: Ultemecia without Megalixirs FF9: Gizmaluke, Hades, Ozma. (ARGH!!) FFX: Seymour. FFMQ: None since the game was too easy. FFT: Velius, Elmdor, Arch Angel (I HATE GRAND CROSS!!) CT: Lavos shell because I was at low levels. CC: Dragon Gods KH: Riku w Keyblade, Giant Ursula, Dragon SMRPG: Smithy 2nd form (Because it's long), Culex (Though he was actually pretty easy for me) Easiest: FF1: Garland FF2: Borghen FF3: The Final Boss FF4: Zeromus FF5: Neo-Exdeath FF6: Kefka, Ghosttrain FF7: The Turks, Sephiroth, Jenova (All phases) FF8: Ultemecia with Megalixirs FF9: Necron, Kuja, TranceKuja FFX: Sin FFMQ: Dark King (And i'm not talking about using Cure magic on him) FFT: Queklain, That one Zodiac Brave before Altima who's name I forgot, Adramelk, Zalbag KH: Guard Armor, Darkside, Clayton SMRPG: Smithy first form, Bowser, roughly 90% of the bosses CT: Dragon Tank, Magus, Lavos 2nd and Core [ August 19, 2003, 09:05 PM: Message edited by: Douglas Salgoud ]

08-19-2003, 03:52 PM	#2
Marilink Guest Posts: n/a	Dude, the whole Smithy battle is more long than difficult. You thought Lavos's Shell was hard? And Long? You need help.

08-19-2003, 05:07 PM	#3
ry Guest Posts: n/a	[CHRONO TRIGGER SPOILERS] If you fight it [Lavos, 1st form] after it is summoned by Zeal, then it's actually very challenging (and impossible on your first visit). The reason is because you are supposed to lose the battle, so they made him harder than he normally is. Namyar RULES!!! [Todays date here: Message editied by Namyar] Don't make me come up there! \ ~Rayman FREAK (Pagemaster of Rayman ULTIMATE)

08-19-2003, 06:48 PM	#4
MetaKnight Master Guest Posts: n/a	FF1: Easiest: Pirates Hardest: WARMECH! FF8: Easiest: Ifrit Hardest: Omega Weapon FF9: Easiest: Steiner Hardest: Ozma

08-19-2003, 08:46 PM	#5
Sim Kid Guest Posts: n/a	Thank you Rayman Freak, that's what I was referring too, I guess I wasn't specific enough about when I fought him, I said he was long because I was at low levels.

08-19-2003, 08:59 PM	#6
Wyborn Zelda Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,388 Thanks: 87 Thanked 469 Times in 281 Posts	Zeromus? Easiest boss in the game? Captain Big Bang? Holy crow what is wrong with you?

08-19-2003, 09:06 PM	#7
Sim Kid Guest Posts: n/a	^...Was Zeromus supposed to be hard?

08-19-2003, 09:10 PM	#8
Wyborn Zelda Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,388 Thanks: 87 Thanked 469 Times in 281 Posts	Hardest FF final boss, to me. Unless, of course, you were at level 50+ in the American version or 80+ in the Japanese version

08-19-2003, 10:45 PM	#9
Sim Kid Guest Posts: n/a	My Characters were around level 60 or so, Because I always assume that the Final Boss is pretty hard, which is why I always level up a lot in the last dungeons, I learnt the hard way that being at low levels in a FF can spell disaster in the last battle (From FF1 of course, but the Final boss of FF3 is easy either way) [ August 19, 2003, 10:47 PM: Message edited by: Douglas Salgoud ]

08-19-2003, 10:54 PM	#10
Pentagon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 1313 dead end drive Posts: 2,682 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	^Blegh, Zeromus was bloody hard! Even at level 54, he knocked out almost all my characters and I ended up with Rosa fighting it alone and right as I try to revive Cecil, boom, he kills Rosa. I guess Douglas must have been at a really really high level and was lucky. [ August 19, 2003, 10:56 PM: Message edited by: Zak likes Peaches, ya? ]

08-20-2003, 08:51 PM	#11
Tiberian Knight Guest Posts: n/a	Hardest: FF1: Astos - well, beating him without losing a character is hard. FF2: Asteroth FF3: Kracken - lets not mince words. This guy is an annoying little bastard with his high level spells. FF4: Dark Bahamut FF5: Shinryu - possibly the hardest boss in the series. FF6: Magi Master FF7: Goldo FF8: Diablos - if you try him right after getting the lamp, and you've been playing normally. FFT: Wiegraf (Riovannes) - well, now that I know it's coming, it can be made really easy, as can any battle in FFT. CT: Giga Gaia - fast and powerful for that point of the game. Probably wouldn't have beat him without Marle. SMRPG: Jinx - a lot harder than Culex because you need to time him. Honorable mentions go to Countdown and Ding-a-ling and Bundt. Easiest: FF1: Chaos - fast, punch, dead. FF2: Emperor FF3: Dark Cloud - it only has one attack that won't kill you if you just follow a single pattern of offense. FF4: Kainazzo FF5: the two hunters on your way to the Hiryu. FF6: everything besides Magi Master FF7: Safer Sephiroth FF8: everything FFT: Elmdor - a boss at the height of T.G. Cid's power? SMRPG: Yaridovich CT: Queen Zeal (first form)

08-20-2003, 10:22 PM	#12
[sage] Guest Posts: n/a	Hardest FF4: The evil wall (more to the fact it creeped me out, and i never liked fighting it) FF6: I forget FFT: Balk 2, Wiegraf/velius CT: I forget Easiest: FF4: I thought zeromous was easy, just really really long FF6: the thing you fight at the end of locke's scenario. I can't remember the name. FFT: Kletian (i'd vote queklain, but he got me stuck on my solo ramza save)

08-21-2003, 12:09 AM	#13
Rattan Guest Posts: n/a	Easy: FF1: Pirate Captain FF4: Mist Dragon FF5: I forget. FF6:The first boss FF7: Guard Scorpion FF8: Biggs and Wedge FF9: Steiner FFX: Sin...encounter 1 with the fin thingy in Zanarkand. FFT: Gafgorian at the Waterfalls. SO2: Alen Tax Saga Frontier: Diva (DREAM SUPER COMBO x5!!!!) Parasite Eve: First battle with Eve Xenogears: Dan Hard: FF: WarMech FF5: That book in the library FF6: Goddess could get tricky FF7: Ruby Weapon FF8: Ultimecia final forrm FF9: Hades FFX: That thing you fight during the Crusader battle. SO2: Gabriel Celeste...I can't beat her. Saga Frontier: Satan got real tricky Parasite Eve: The final boss in the Chrysler Building gave me mucho problemas. [ August 21, 2003, 12:12 AM: Message edited by: Rattan ]

08-21-2003, 02:33 PM	#14
Falco53 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Happy World Land Posts: 2,744 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It all depends on how you play the game. I have abandoned running away from fights (except FF5 and its Chicken Knife) thus boss fights have become much easier. When I finished FF4 I was around level 65+. FF4: I remember very little from FF4. The toughest boss for me in that game was the Demon Wall dude. I used the trick where you get the crystal ahead of time, thus I played through the dungeon without Kain. FF6: The hardest time I've ever had with an FF boss was with Ultros for the first time. I was a RPG novice at the time so I had ran from many fights and I didn't know how to use the characters.