Are they turtles or ducks with shells?Help!!! - VGF

cutedot12 · 07-31-2006, 11:44 AM

In pretty much every mario there are little guys who go back and forth and sometimes fly i want to settle with my brother that those are turtle NOT ducks with shells on them PLEASE HELP ME:

***CaptHayfever*** · 07-31-2006, 12:10 PM

They're turtles, just some of them have wings.
Bowser is also a turtle.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

N Kong · 07-31-2006, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

Bowser is also a turtle.

No.Bowser is a Kappa.

wariovswario · 08-01-2006, 01:38 PM

kappa? Please, we're not playing guild wars factions here...and we sure as hell aint in japan...if you want to know what a kappa is on Super mario...here's a picture...

look familiar to you? That is most definitely what bowser is...if bowser we're a water imp he'd be puny looking and green...he aint a water imp...he's one big turtle!

Valigarmander · 08-01-2006, 02:17 PM

The little guys in shells who walk back in forth are called Koopa Troopas. Sometimes they have wings, and are called Koopa Paratroopas. They are certainly not ducks. Koopas are turtles, hence the shells. And Bowser is a Koopa, not a kappa. There are no kappa in Super Mario Brothers. (There's a mountain in SMW called Kappa Mountain, but ASIDE FROM THAT...)

BTW, Happy Birthday, SMBHQ!

Sarai and Samiel · 08-01-2006, 02:23 PM

The koopa troopers are turtles, sometimes with wings.

Bowser is most definitely not a kappa. In fact, the thing he seems most akin to is the Chinese sea dragon, Lung Wang, and he's not even really one of those either, since he's got, you know, hair and fingers and spikes.

Chunky Kong12345 · 08-01-2006, 03:33 PM

Tell your brother that he's an idiot.

N Kong · 08-01-2006, 05:13 PM

EDIT

Nevermind.

***Ace Mercury*** · 08-01-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia *smirk*

Although the Yoshi's Island character is referred to as "Kamek" in the U.S. release, in Japan the entire race of Magikoopa are known as "Kamek" (カメック; kamekku), a pun on "kame", the Japanese word for turtle. That is to say, the characters known as "Magikoopa" in the U.S. have always been called "Kamek" in Japan.

waha

StealthKnight · 08-01-2006, 09:48 PM

That Kappa picture does look similar to bowser

. It also looks familiar to a boss in Super Metroid and the bird creature. I can't remember the names though. Nice find ace on the Kamac thing between our two cultures.

StealthKnight

wariovswario · 08-02-2006, 12:42 AM

kappas aren't generally perceived as big and strong and angry however...their usually puny and green troublemakers. If you wanted to picture an imp...think of when your characters would be turned into imps on final fantasy 6 (3).

i believe that nintendo more based golduck from pokemon to be like the kappa than they did with bowser...that is to say if they even tried to base bowser off a kappa which i can't understand how or why. The only similarities between a kappa and bowser are that they have big green shells....except bowser's is spiky. Your picture of an angry kappa is sometimes rare as they are not normally big, strong, and scary in mythology. (WOW I LIKE HOW OFF TOPIC WE ARE COMPARING KOOPAS TO DUCKS OR TURTLES TO BOWSER AND KAPPAS) also, going back to pokemon, golduck's japanese name is indeed "Kappa"....bet not many of you guys knew that...lol

Serial Miller · 08-02-2006, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N king

No.Bowser is a Kappa.

One day the kingdom of the peaceful mushroom people was invaded by the Koopa,
a tribe of turtles famous for their black magic. The quiet, peace-loving
Mushroom People were turned into mere stones, bricks and even field horse-
hair plants, and the Mushroom Kingdom fell into ruin.

The only one who can undo the magic spell on the Mushroom People and return
them to their normal selves is the Princess Toadstool, the daughter of the
Mushroom King. Unfortunately, she is presently in the hands of the great
Koopa turtle king.

Mario, the hero of this story (maybe) hears about the Mushroom People's
plight and sets out on a quest to free the Mushroom Princess from the evil
Koopa and restore the fallen kingdom of the Mushroom People.

You are Mario! It's up to you to save the Mushroom People from the black
magic of the Koopa!

- From the manual of Super Mario Bros.

***Ace Mercury*** · 08-02-2006, 08:29 AM

Oh yeah... that thing. Where they tried to explain why punching bricks somestimes gave you items, because you're 'freeing' a citizen and they give you stuff in return.

wariovswario · 08-02-2006, 12:31 PM

lol....i forgot about that. Wow now i see that mario has gotten more kiddy as time went on....

***CaptHayfever*** · 08-02-2006, 02:00 PM

Goofy is not the same thing as kiddy. You and the world at large would do well to learn that.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

wariovswario · 08-02-2006, 11:42 PM

whatever...all i'm trying to say is that bowser is not based off the kappa. If nintendo based anything at all on the kappa it would have to be golduck who's japanese name is "Kappa".

note that bowser dont have webbed feet or green skin or a rounded shell....note that the kappa does! And note that golduck seems very similar to a kappa...note that the kappa looks nothing like bowser.

Sarai and Samiel · 08-03-2006, 09:21 AM

Bowser also notably lacks a puddle-bowl on his head and a beak, and has a tail, which kappa do not. Golduck does have a tail, but it also has a flat spot on top of its head. Also note that kappa are usually a bit smaller than a human, where Bowser is much bigger.

Valigarmander · 08-03-2006, 04:05 PM

Koopas are turtles. Bowser is not a kappa. End of discussion.

N Kong · 08-03-2006, 06:34 PM

Delete this post.

StealthKnight · 08-03-2006, 09:05 PM

Wario, when I see the angry Kappa one pictured early, I see more of bowser then goldduck but I can see more of golduck in the cute reading one. That is also neat that golduck literally mean kappa. I guess people see different things when the see those picture so thats probably why we have allot of different opinions. Also something does not necessarily have to look very similar to be based of something. Anyway, great finds all.

StealthKnight

07-31-2006, 11:44 AM	#1
cutedot12 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Gender: Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 899.91 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 899.91 Donate	Are they turtles or ducks with shells?Help!!! In pretty much every mario there are little guys who go back and forth and sometimes fly i want to settle with my brother that those are turtle NOT ducks with shells on them PLEASE HELP ME:

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StealthKnight Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine Gender: Posts: 166 Thanks: 15 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Points: 1,504.70 Bank: 455.76 Total Points: 1,960.46 Donate	That Kappa picture does look similar to bowser. It also looks familiar to a boss in Super Metroid and the bird creature. I can't remember the names though. Nice find ace on the Kamac thing between our two cultures. StealthKnight

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07-31-2006, 12:10 PM	#2
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08-01-2006, 01:38 PM	#4
wariovswario Don't ban me please. :( Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 3,923 Thanks: 81 Thanked 52 Times in 35 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 477.08 Bank: 377,409.51 Total Points: 377,886.59 Donate	kappa? Please, we're not playing guild wars factions here...and we sure as hell aint in japan...if you want to know what a kappa is on Super mario...here's a picture... look familiar to you? That is most definitely what bowser is...if bowser we're a water imp he'd be puny looking and green...he aint a water imp...he's one big turtle!

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wariovswario Don't ban me please. :( Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 3,923 Thanks: 81 Thanked 52 Times in 35 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 477.08 Bank: 377,409.51 Total Points: 377,886.59 Donate	kappas aren't generally perceived as big and strong and angry however...their usually puny and green troublemakers. If you wanted to picture an imp...think of when your characters would be turned into imps on final fantasy 6 (3). i believe that nintendo more based golduck from pokemon to be like the kappa than they did with bowser...that is to say if they even tried to base bowser off a kappa which i can't understand how or why. The only similarities between a kappa and bowser are that they have big green shells....except bowser's is spiky. Your picture of an angry kappa is sometimes rare as they are not normally big, strong, and scary in mythology. (WOW I LIKE HOW OFF TOPIC WE ARE COMPARING KOOPAS TO DUCKS OR TURTLES TO BOWSER AND KAPPAS) also, going back to pokemon, golduck's japanese name is indeed "Kappa"....bet not many of you guys knew that...lol

08-02-2006, 08:29 AM	#13
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08-02-2006, 12:31 PM	#14
wariovswario Don't ban me please. :( Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 3,923 Thanks: 81 Thanked 52 Times in 35 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 477.08 Bank: 377,409.51 Total Points: 377,886.59 Donate	lol....i forgot about that. Wow now i see that mario has gotten more kiddy as time went on....

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08-02-2006, 11:42 PM	#16
wariovswario Don't ban me please. :( Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 3,923 Thanks: 81 Thanked 52 Times in 35 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 477.08 Bank: 377,409.51 Total Points: 377,886.59 Donate	whatever...all i'm trying to say is that bowser is not based off the kappa. If nintendo based anything at all on the kappa it would have to be golduck who's japanese name is "Kappa". note that bowser dont have webbed feet or green skin or a rounded shell....note that the kappa does! And note that golduck seems very similar to a kappa...note that the kappa looks nothing like bowser.

08-03-2006, 09:21 AM	#17
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08-03-2006, 09:05 PM	#20
StealthKnight Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Maine Gender: Posts: 166 Thanks: 15 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Points: 1,504.70 Bank: 455.76 Total Points: 1,960.46 Donate	Wario, when I see the angry Kappa one pictured early, I see more of bowser then goldduck but I can see more of golduck in the cute reading one. That is also neat that golduck literally mean kappa. I guess people see different things when the see those picture so thats probably why we have allot of different opinions. Also something does not necessarily have to look very similar to be based of something. Anyway, great finds all. StealthKnight