Is Bowser dead for good?!

06-05-2002, 06:54 PM

In Luigi's Mansion, Madam Clarvoiya says that King Boo revived Bowser. Since when did he die?

06-05-2002, 06:58 PM

He shot himself.

The Game Master · 06-05-2002, 07:00 PM

I doubt it.

Luigi of the Pipes · 06-05-2002, 07:35 PM

Clairvoya says she THINKS Bowser died. She THINKS.

becky_is_da_bomb · 06-05-2002, 08:35 PM

hes not dead!!! he cant be!! hes not!

06-05-2002, 09:55 PM

I doubt that THING was Bowser at all. If so, they'd have more blood when his head came clear off. That was just freaky.

06-05-2002, 10:03 PM

not nessecarily. Ever see much blood in any mario game?

06-05-2002, 10:14 PM

The monster's in the Mario games bleed smoke & coins.

06-05-2002, 10:26 PM

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06-05-2002, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by [sage]:
not nessecarily. Ever see much blood in any mario game?

Ever seen someone's head come off in Mario game. All tht scene was voilence without the blood. Most Mariio games are hardly that voilent. If they were worried about censors they shouldn't have included that stuf in there to begin with. It just comes out as plain freaky.

Luigi of the Pipes · 06-06-2002, 10:18 AM

Naturally, it couldn't be Bowser. Just a big suit (like the suits that the enemies wear in SMB or the MP games), with the head having some limited form of intelligence, or at least a homing device to find Luigi.

Doesn't mean that Bowser couldn't have been somewhere else.

He's not dead.

06-06-2002, 04:01 PM

...only much more realistic.

06-06-2002, 04:54 PM

A Bowser Suit makes more sense. But I still believe Mme. Clairvoya. For one thing, she was pysic. Another, she was dead herself. Who better to know who's dead than a dead psycic. Besides, there has to be a reason Nintendo included that qoute in the game. Either to weird us out or annonce he never did survive that last battle in SM64.

Luigi of the Pipes · 06-06-2002, 07:31 PM

Ah, but Clairvoya is also a villain (E. Gadd caught her, after all) or else you wouldn't have to struggle when you catch her.

Case in point, she could also be lying, and by saying that she thinks Bowser is dead, she's covering it up.

Besides that, at the end of the battle in SM64 (after collecting all 120 stars), Bowser says he'll watch the ending with his lackies.

---

Time to pull the translation card, now. In the Japanese version of the game, Clairvoya (Meiru) tells you that Bowser revived King Boo, not the other way around.

Somebody over in Washington got a bit confused.

Yami Yoshi · 06-06-2002, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by Yoda of the Pipes:
Ah, but Clairvoya is also a villain (E. Gadd caught her, after all) or else you wouldn't have to struggle when you catch her.

Case in point, she could also be lying, and by saying that she thinks Bowser is dead, she's covering it up.

Besides that, at the end of the battle in SM64 (after collecting all 120 stars), Bowser says he'll watch the ending with his lackies.

---

Time to pull the translation card, now. In the Japanese version of the game, Clairvoya (Meiru) tells you that Bowser revived King Boo, not the other way around.

Somebody over in Washington got a bit confused.

Since when did King Boo die?

06-06-2002, 11:32 PM

Bowser is NOT dead. He will live forever. He started the same time Mario did and he will end at the same time too (which is never).

06-06-2002, 11:47 PM

That is what he wants you to think, and when your not expecting it, BOOM all your coins are gone, that dam Bowser is at it again in Mario Party 4.

06-07-2002, 03:58 PM

^ True

06-07-2002, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yoda of the Pipes:
Ah, but Clairvoya is also a villain (E. Gadd caught her, after all) or else you wouldn't have to struggle when you catch her.

Case in point, she could also be lying, and by saying that she thinks Bowser is dead, she's covering it up.

Besides that, at the end of the battle in SM64 (after collecting all 120 stars), Bowser says he'll watch the ending with his lackies.

---

Time to pull the translation card, now. In the Japanese version of the game, Clairvoya (Meiru) tells you that Bowser revived King Boo, not the other way around.

Somebody over in Washington got a bit confused.

What would be the fun of the game if she just willingly went into the vacuum. And the fact that you catch her doesn't make her a villian. That would mean all the ghosts in there were villians. Which isn't true. For example, the femal ghost at her bedroom window isn't a baddie. She was trying to struggle because she was free and didn't want to go back into a painting again. Most of the ghosts are simply restless spirits who have no idea they're dead to begin with. Even Nana Nightmare isn't evil. She just wants to continue to persue the lie that she's still alive and well. Is it evil when a ghost is afraid to 'die'?

There is no reason for to lie. She did help Luigi out, afterall.

I've never heard of such a qoute. At least not in my copy.

[ June 07, 2002, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: MJ- is married to PZOH ]

Luigi of the Pipes · 06-07-2002, 09:35 PM

Clairvoya struggled when you caught her, yet she asked you to capture her. That's evidence of lying right there. She also held TWO keys from you (you find two in her room overall), and didn't really tell you anything of importance.

And like said, that's in the JAPANESE version. Somebody translated the American version wrong.

[ June 07, 2002, 09:36 PM: Message edited by: Yoda of the Pipes ]

06-05-2002, 06:54 PM	#1
Kirb-E Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	In Luigi's Mansion, Madam Clarvoiya says that King Boo revived Bowser. Since when did he die?

06-05-2002, 06:58 PM	#2
Hammer Luigi Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	He shot himself.

06-05-2002, 07:00 PM	#3
The Game Master Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 7,009 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 549.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,049.00 Donate	I doubt it.

06-05-2002, 07:35 PM	#4
Luigi of the Pipes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Goomba Village, Mushroom Kingdom Posts: 4,959 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Points: 745.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,245.00 Donate	Clairvoya says she THINKS Bowser died. She THINKS.

06-05-2002, 08:35 PM	#5
becky_is_da_bomb Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Gender: Posts: 1,338 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,100.05 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,600.05 Donate	hes not dead!!! he cant be!! hes not!

06-05-2002, 09:55 PM	#6
Mario Jr Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	I doubt that THING was Bowser at all. If so, they'd have more blood when his head came clear off. That was just freaky.

06-05-2002, 10:03 PM	#7
[sage] Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	not nessecarily. Ever see much blood in any mario game?

06-05-2002, 10:14 PM	#8
The Six Axem Rangers Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	The monster's in the Mario games bleed smoke & coins.

06-05-2002, 10:26 PM	#9
Kolorado Koopa Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	You know what pot does to those big turtles... This is what you get for messin' with my cuckoos! You little... DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR! (Neither before breakfast) An incredibly funny thing! Click here NOW

06-06-2002, 10:18 AM	#11
Luigi of the Pipes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Goomba Village, Mushroom Kingdom Posts: 4,959 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Points: 745.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,245.00 Donate	Naturally, it couldn't be Bowser. Just a big suit (like the suits that the enemies wear in SMB or the MP games), with the head having some limited form of intelligence, or at least a homing device to find Luigi. Doesn't mean that Bowser couldn't have been somewhere else. He's not dead.

06-06-2002, 04:01 PM	#12
Yoshimaster007 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	...only much more realistic.

06-06-2002, 04:54 PM	#13
Mario Jr Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	A Bowser Suit makes more sense. But I still believe Mme. Clairvoya. For one thing, she was pysic. Another, she was dead herself. Who better to know who's dead than a dead psycic. Besides, there has to be a reason Nintendo included that qoute in the game. Either to weird us out or annonce he never did survive that last battle in SM64.

06-06-2002, 07:31 PM	#14
Luigi of the Pipes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Goomba Village, Mushroom Kingdom Posts: 4,959 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Points: 745.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,245.00 Donate	Ah, but Clairvoya is also a villain (E. Gadd caught her, after all) or else you wouldn't have to struggle when you catch her. Case in point, she could also be lying, and by saying that she thinks Bowser is dead, she's covering it up. Besides that, at the end of the battle in SM64 (after collecting all 120 stars), Bowser says he'll watch the ending with his lackies. --- Time to pull the translation card, now. In the Japanese version of the game, Clairvoya (Meiru) tells you that Bowser revived King Boo, not the other way around. Somebody over in Washington got a bit confused.

06-06-2002, 11:32 PM	#16
Magnum Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Bowser is NOT dead. He will live forever. He started the same time Mario did and he will end at the same time too (which is never).

06-06-2002, 11:47 PM	#17
Strong Kong Donkey Kong Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	That is what he wants you to think, and when your not expecting it, BOOM all your coins are gone, that dam Bowser is at it again in Mario Party 4.

06-07-2002, 03:58 PM	#18
Magnum Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	^ True

06-07-2002, 09:35 PM	#20
Luigi of the Pipes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Goomba Village, Mushroom Kingdom Posts: 4,959 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Points: 745.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,245.00 Donate	Clairvoya struggled when you caught her, yet she asked you to capture her. That's evidence of lying right there. She also held TWO keys from you (you find two in her room overall), and didn't really tell you anything of importance. And like said, that's in the JAPANESE version. Somebody translated the American version wrong. [ June 07, 2002, 09:36 PM: Message edited by: Yoda of the Pipes ]