If peach is a princess, who's the king and queen? - Page 2

***ZeldaGirl*** · 07-20-2008, 07:24 PM

^That's what I'm talking about - of course, Ganondorf probably is just mocking when he says "princess", as he's taken over. But still, in TP, isn't she known as "princess," or am I misremembering that?

And the King is dead after Ganondorf attacks in OoT - I think if you speak with one of the soldiers on your way to the temple, he says so.

X-3 · 07-20-2008, 07:28 PM

Ah, I guess I never spoke to that soldier.

I think she was a Princess in TP too.

My guess about the whole thing is that neither of them have been named "queen" yet. Or something.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 07-20-2008, 09:26 PM

You need to be corronated to be the king or queen. Some places, you need to be a certain age before they can crown you, whereas some cultures allow even children to take the throne.

Peach and Toadstool were different enough to warrant disapproval when the change was implemented. Toadstool was a completely different woman (personality-wise) because there were a large amount of comics and cartoons created. Just as the Yoshi of today is "baby" Yoshi, rather than the real adult Yoshi you saw in Maro World. Yoshi had a different personality back then, also. He isn't the same Yoshi anymore, and it's for the worse.

Maynard James Keenan · 07-20-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeldaGirl

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it always "Princess Zelda," too? Even if the games where she is the only member of the royal family left (OoT and TP, I believe...)

WHAT about:

WHERE DOES IT FIT IN THE CANON

**Kargath** · 07-21-2008, 03:46 AM

^^Well, Yoshi is an entire species...

DELICIOUS POISON · 07-21-2008, 04:29 AM

And the Mario bros. are brothers, but one of them is specifically named Mario. And there was originally one particular of the mushroom people named Toad, but they are now all referred to as Toads.

The Yoshis that make the cute sounds and have rounded, shrunken models in Yoshi Story are specifically stated in game to be baby yoshis. Nintendo has since given that game's model precedence over the entire race, despite the game's unpopularity. It first occurred in Super Smash Bros. as a nod to the most recent Yoshi game, but was repeated in Sunshine and the sports games without regard to the original design.

Tazy, I don't like it when things change for the worse, or frivolously. Would you like it if I came into your house and moved everything to a different place?

The "Princess Zelda" phenomenon is pretty obvious in the sense that it was decreed by the first Zelda's brother, after she was cursed by a wizard, that every princess in that lineage should be named Zelda. There is a standard timeline for the earliest games that immediately determines the instance of many different Links and Zeldas, and every game takes place before that Princess has assumed rulership over the kingdom.

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 07-21-2008, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GRENTLEMEN

Tazy, I don't like it when things change for the worse, or frivolously. Would you like it if I came into your house and moved everything to a different place?

yes.

No wait.

yes.

Needed Italics.

REALITY = LIBERAL BIAS · 07-21-2008, 09:35 AM

IIRC the mario bros.'s last name is "mario". it makes perfect sense.

wariovswario · 07-21-2008, 04:21 PM

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This probably explains about the king of hyrule. Unrelated, but I want to say "OH BOY! I CAN'T WAIT TO BOMB SOME DODONGOS!"

LATER STILL.

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STOP LOOKING AT ME · 07-21-2008, 04:26 PM

The King of Hyrule has always been a little crazy.

Blake · 07-21-2008, 07:36 PM

I think the reason Peach and Zelda are called princesses is guys are more likely to think of a princess as a young single chick as opposed to a queen which they more likely interpret as being older and married.

***CaptHayfever*** · 07-21-2008, 11:14 PM

I still like my peroxide bath theory.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 07-21-2008, 11:22 PM

Me too, Capt.

Dr. Furball · 07-22-2008, 01:43 AM

I always looked at Super Mario Bros. as a fairy tale. And the typical fairy tale damsel in distress was usually a princess, not a queen.

And as for the name...? Well, Super Mario Bros. Deluxe and the Super Mario Advance series referred to the Princess as Peach, although in the original versions of the games, she was called "Toadstool". SM64 and SM64DS refer to her as Peach AND Toadstool. Personally, I usually call her "Princess Toadstool", because I like the sound of it better.

Galefore · 07-22-2008, 01:49 AM

Peach's father is obviously the Chancellor from SMRPG. Case Closed.

DELICIOUS POISON · 07-22-2008, 08:34 AM

Agreed. G'night, folks.

DarkZero · 07-22-2008, 09:56 AM

My theory is that, while there is a king, he allows his daughter the same monarchial power as himself. This has actually happened in some countries.

Demonic Lemonade · 07-24-2008, 06:56 AM

I don'y have any therory, I just play the game.

ahuambachano · 07-24-2008, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galefore

Peach's father is obviously the Chancellor from SMRPG. Case Closed.

No.

07-20-2008, 07:24 PM	#21
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07-22-2008, 01:43 AM	#34
Dr. Furball Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mad Science Academy, 12th Floor Gender: Posts: 622 Thanks: 64 Thanked 44 Times in 32 Posts Points: 183.11 Bank: 900.37 Total Points: 1,083.48 Donate	I always looked at Super Mario Bros. as a fairy tale. And the typical fairy tale damsel in distress was usually a princess, not a queen. And as for the name...? Well, Super Mario Bros. Deluxe and the Super Mario Advance series referred to the Princess as Peach, although in the original versions of the games, she was called "Toadstool". SM64 and SM64DS refer to her as Peach AND Toadstool. Personally, I usually call her "Princess Toadstool", because I like the sound of it better. Last edited by Dr. Furball; 07-24-2008 at 10:44 AM.

07-20-2008, 07:28 PM	#22
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07-20-2008, 09:26 PM	#23
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