If peach is a princess, who's the king and queen?

Jesus · 07-19-2008, 10:11 PM

How is it that a princess has absolute power in her kingdom? Shouldn't she be a queen? Where are her parents the queen and king!?? Has anyone ever thought about this before?

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 07-19-2008, 10:28 PM

There is a King. Play Mario 3.

Jesus · 07-19-2008, 10:33 PM

Those are several kings....none of which I believe is Peach's father.

Seeking Attention · 07-19-2008, 10:33 PM

Perhaps the Queen is dead?

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 07-19-2008, 10:37 PM

The comics and cartoons all showed the King as Princess Toadstool's father.

For that matter, is Peach really the same person as Princess Toadstool? That doesn't fly with me, and most other old fans of the series.

Seeking Attention · 07-19-2008, 10:40 PM

Peach is the same person as Toadstool. Her full name is Peach Toadstool. She goes by Princess Toadstool in Super Mario World.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 07-19-2008, 10:51 PM

No, Nintendo changed it after a few years. She was never "Peach" anything until Mario 64. Princess Toadstool was a redhead, too.

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-19-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wariovswario

Those are several kings....none of which I believe is Peach's father.

Seven different kings, and none of them are good enough for you? You're being awfully choosey.

**X-3** · 07-19-2008, 10:55 PM

Retcons?

I guess Nintendo decided that Toadstool was kind of an unfitting name for a princess. That's my theory, at least.

Also, I guess she hasn't been made a queen yet or something.

Seeking Attention · 07-19-2008, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds

No, Nintendo changed it after a few years. She was never "Peach" anything until Mario 64. Princess Toadstool was a redhead, too.

Then why does Toadstool look exactly the same as Peach in Super Mario World and why is she blonde and not a redhead?

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-19-2008, 11:04 PM

Well, Nintendo of America became less independent. They synchronized more with Japan, which preferred to portray Toadstool as a blonde bimbo. There, she always had the name "Peach". But in western marketing, she already had an established and multi-faceted personality. Most older fans of the series are likely to prefer that to the one-dimensional Barbie-doll called Peach.

Toadstool:

Peach:

Rainbow Dash · 07-20-2008, 11:07 AM

You proved that they are the same person when you said "Japan has had her as Peach all along"

heh · 07-20-2008, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wariovswario

Those are several kings....none of which I believe is Peach's father.

but it does answer the question. topic over

***CaptHayfever*** · 07-20-2008, 03:43 PM

Maybe Bowser dipped her head-first into a vat of peroxide? That would explain both the hair & the brain damage.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Robotazy · 07-20-2008, 04:46 PM

The Mushroom Kingdom is ruled as a monarchy in which the ruler is called a "Princess"

Also, damn you guys sure get pissed off when things change don't you?

**Valigarmander** · 07-20-2008, 05:25 PM

Eh, I guess I'll pitch my theory, or at least one of them.

Peach is the sovereign ruler of the Mushroom Kingdom, but is still only a princess because in order for her to be an actual queen, she must have a king. Until that happens, she is still just a princess. Uhh, have any of you seen Shrek? Think Lord Farquad.

Jesus · 07-20-2008, 05:39 PM

There've been queens who haven't had a king. Whatever, it's just one of those things that Nintendo never thought through all the way. I guess another thing they've never thought through is why the heck they don't have any humans except for Peach, Mario, Wario, Waluigi, and Luigi.

Robotazy · 07-20-2008, 05:43 PM

It's a video game. You can just as easily have a Princess be a ruler just as much as you can have Crocodiles stealing bananas to anger a bunch of monkeys.

Also, There are other humans in the Mushroom Kingdom. They're just rare.

ZeldaGirl · 07-20-2008, 06:42 PM

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it always "Princess Zelda," too? Even if the games where she is the only member of the royal family left (OoT and TP, I believe...)

**X-3** · 07-20-2008, 07:20 PM

^Uh, the King was alive in OoT. Well, in the child time. He's probably dead or had his ass kicked in the adult time. Otherwise, who was Ganondorf bowing to? Maybe...

Ganondorf: I pledge allegiance to you, Warchief!
Thrall: Lok'tar, human.
Zelda: *Rips off human mask, revealing orcish face*
Link: oh shi-orc territory not hyrule

07-19-2008, 10:11 PM	#1
Jesus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 5,617 Thanks: 104 Thanked 139 Times in 101 Posts Blog Entries: 3	If peach is a princess, who's the king and queen? How is it that a princess has absolute power in her kingdom? Shouldn't she be a queen? Where are her parents the queen and king!?? Has anyone ever thought about this before?

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*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Well, Nintendo of America became less independent. They synchronized more with Japan, which preferred to portray Toadstool as a blonde bimbo. There, she always had the name "Peach". But in western marketing, she already had an established and multi-faceted personality. Most older fans of the series are likely to prefer that to the one-dimensional Barbie-doll called Peach. Toadstool: Peach: Last edited by Cosmonautical; 07-19-2008 at 11:04 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	There is a King. Play Mario 3.

07-19-2008, 10:33 PM	#3
Jesus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 5,617 Thanks: 104 Thanked 139 Times in 101 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Those are several kings....none of which I believe is Peach's father.

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Seeking Attention Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Gender: Posts: 0 Thanks: 489 Thanked 185 Times in 153 Posts	Perhaps the Queen is dead?

07-19-2008, 10:37 PM	#5
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	The comics and cartoons all showed the King as Princess Toadstool's father. For that matter, is Peach really the same person as Princess Toadstool? That doesn't fly with me, and most other old fans of the series.

07-19-2008, 10:40 PM	#6
Seeking Attention Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Gender: Posts: 0 Thanks: 489 Thanked 185 Times in 153 Posts	Peach is the same person as Toadstool. Her full name is Peach Toadstool. She goes by Princess Toadstool in Super Mario World.

07-19-2008, 10:51 PM	#7
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	No, Nintendo changed it after a few years. She was never "Peach" anything until Mario 64. Princess Toadstool was a redhead, too.

07-19-2008, 10:55 PM	#9
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Retcons? I guess Nintendo decided that Toadstool was kind of an unfitting name for a princess. That's my theory, at least. Also, I guess she hasn't been made a queen yet or something.

07-20-2008, 11:07 AM	#12
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,402 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	You proved that they are the same person when you said "Japan has had her as Peach all along"

07-20-2008, 03:43 PM	#14
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Maybe Bowser dipped her head-first into a vat of peroxide? That would explain both the hair & the brain damage. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

07-20-2008, 04:46 PM	#15
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	The Mushroom Kingdom is ruled as a monarchy in which the ruler is called a "Princess" Also, damn you guys sure get pissed off when things change don't you?

07-20-2008, 05:25 PM	#16
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Eh, I guess I'll pitch my theory, or at least one of them. Peach is the sovereign ruler of the Mushroom Kingdom, but is still only a princess because in order for her to be an actual queen, she must have a king. Until that happens, she is still just a princess. Uhh, have any of you seen Shrek? Think Lord Farquad.

07-20-2008, 05:39 PM	#17
Jesus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 5,617 Thanks: 104 Thanked 139 Times in 101 Posts Blog Entries: 3	There've been queens who haven't had a king. Whatever, it's just one of those things that Nintendo never thought through all the way. I guess another thing they've never thought through is why the heck they don't have any humans except for Peach, Mario, Wario, Waluigi, and Luigi.

07-20-2008, 05:43 PM	#18
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	It's a video game. You can just as easily have a Princess be a ruler just as much as you can have Crocodiles stealing bananas to anger a bunch of monkeys. Also, There are other humans in the Mushroom Kingdom. They're just rare.

07-20-2008, 06:42 PM	#19
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it always "Princess Zelda," too? Even if the games where she is the only member of the royal family left (OoT and TP, I believe...)

07-20-2008, 07:20 PM	#20
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	^Uh, the King was alive in OoT. Well, in the child time. He's probably dead or had his ass kicked in the adult time. Otherwise, who was Ganondorf bowing to? Maybe... Ganondorf: I pledge allegiance to you, Warchief! Thrall: Lok'tar, human. Zelda: Rips off human mask, revealing orcish face Link: oh shi-orc territory not hyrule