Do you consider the DK series part of the Marioverse? - Page 2

***CaptHayfever*** · 03-11-2009, 12:22 PM

^I believe I just made an argument.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

***Booyakasha*** · 03-11-2009, 12:28 PM

No. They may be located in the same dimension or whatever, but there's next to no overlap.

Robotazy · 03-11-2009, 01:08 PM

Miyamoto never cared for Donkey Kong. In fact, if Rare hadn't made DKC, Donkey Kong would probably just be the monkey that Mario curbstomped off the Pie Factory.

So.....yeah. That's why DK is getting nothing good as of late.

Swordmaster Link · 03-11-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

^I believe I just made an argument.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Oh, my bad, that was more rhetorical than anything else.

Metal Man · 03-11-2009, 04:40 PM

We need a new R-named second party like Retro to go in and revamp Donkey Kong.

Luigi Pwns All · 03-11-2009, 05:24 PM

I think of them as seperate and Mario kind of a DK spinoff after reading this,I used to think of it the other way.

And remmember, "Im-a Luigi! Number...well...two. :/

Dizzy · 03-11-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Luigi Pwns All

And remmember, "Im-a Luigi! Number...well...two. :/

Sounds like you have the Capt. in you.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-11-2009, 06:12 PM

Boo is pretty much right on the money, but the first two DK games, and the spin-offs prove they do overlap, if only a little. But it is significant.

ZeldaGirl · 03-11-2009, 07:23 PM

You do realize that post contradicts itself, right?

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-11-2009, 07:29 PM

Why do I hear this so much? It looks fine to me...

Luigiman7 · 03-11-2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by X-3

I consider Donkey Kong separate due to the fact it has enough stand-alone games to be considered a separate series. Wario is the same, but I don't consider Yoshi the same.

also, I thought Cranky was confirmed to be the original DK, and Donkey to be Jr, or maybe I'm crazy.

I think that, but it may not be confirmed.

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Originally Posted by Tazy Ten

what about Pac-Man?

PACMAN WORLD 4

Let's not forget the Tamogatchi.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-11-2009, 10:13 PM

The DK games, according to Wikipedia, state that there exist two contradictory statements. One citation has Cranky reference to DK as his "grandson", the other calls him son. I think Nintendo chose to go with the "Grandpa" theory, I suppose making DK the regular DK, and Cranky being an original character. But the first DKC makes so many refrences to Cranky being the original DK, that I don't know for sure...

Chaos Deviot · 03-11-2009, 11:29 PM

I do consider them different series, and the storyline ending at the end of Donkey Kong 64. All the rest of the games are in the Marioverse(Donkey Konga included). When a new and GOOD game comes out, maybe it could be brought back into canon. As for Diddy Kong Racing, it's argueable, though.

***Booyakasha*** · 03-12-2009, 12:07 AM

When I say there's next to no overlap, I mean it in the sense that, aside from DK and Diddy, we've never seen any DK characters or settings in a Mario game. Likewise with Mario characters in a DK game.

^What's arguable about DKR?

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-12-2009, 12:17 AM

^ Technically, if Cranky does turn out to be the original DK, that makes three from the DK series to pop-up in Mario games. Those're all the connections I can make anyway.

**Valigarmander** · 03-12-2009, 12:20 AM

^^^ So your logic is... if a DK game is good, it's in its own franchise, but if it sucks, it's part of the Marioverse?

I think I understand what you're saying, but you could word it a lot better.

^^ Actually, recently characters like Dixie, Tiny and Funky Kong (if not more characters) have been making appearances, though mainly as characters in sports or Mario Kart games.

***Booyakasha*** · 03-12-2009, 12:45 AM

^Fair enough. I was mostly talking main-sequence games, but I suppose the sports count.

**Valigarmander** · 03-12-2009, 01:06 AM

Yeah... I mean, Mario's had crossovers with characters like Sonic and Pac-Man, but since Nintendo's picked up the Donkey Kong games from Rare it seems they've been trying to reintegrate them into the Mario series.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-12-2009, 01:55 AM

^ I wanna get ahod of that Pac-Man/Mario Kart. 'Course, that's a Japan-only arcade game. I won't be playing that anytime soon. =/

***CaptHayfever*** · 03-12-2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkZero

Sounds like you have the Capt. in you.

He's gonna have the Capt's fist in his face if he's not careful.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

03-12-2009, 12:20 AM	#36
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,223 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,553 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	^^^ So your logic is... if a DK game is good, it's in its own franchise, but if it sucks, it's part of the Marioverse? I think I understand what you're saying, but you could word it a lot better. ^^ Actually, recently characters like Dixie, Tiny and Funky Kong (if not more characters) have been making appearances, though mainly as characters in sports or Mario Kart games. __________________

03-12-2009, 01:06 AM	#38
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,223 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,553 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	Yeah... I mean, Mario's had crossovers with characters like Sonic and Pac-Man, but since Nintendo's picked up the Donkey Kong games from Rare it seems they've been trying to reintegrate them into the Mario series. __________________

03-11-2009, 12:22 PM	#21
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,014 Thanks: 1,788 Thanked 2,371 Times in 1,423 Posts	^I believe I just made an argument. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

03-11-2009, 12:28 PM	#22
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,655 Thanks: 153 Thanked 1,386 Times in 704 Posts	No. They may be located in the same dimension or whatever, but there's next to no overlap.

03-11-2009, 01:08 PM	#23
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,284 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,238 Times in 885 Posts Blog Entries: 43	Miyamoto never cared for Donkey Kong. In fact, if Rare hadn't made DKC, Donkey Kong would probably just be the monkey that Mario curbstomped off the Pie Factory. So.....yeah. That's why DK is getting nothing good as of late.

03-11-2009, 04:40 PM	#25
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	We need a new R-named second party like Retro to go in and revamp Donkey Kong.

03-11-2009, 05:24 PM	#26
Luigi Pwns All Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: IN YOUR EYE SOCKETS. Gender: Posts: 546 Thanks: 30 Thanked 20 Times in 18 Posts	I think of them as seperate and Mario kind of a DK spinoff after reading this,I used to think of it the other way. And remmember, "Im-a Luigi! Number...well...two. :/

03-11-2009, 06:12 PM	#28
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Boo is pretty much right on the money, but the first two DK games, and the spin-offs prove they do overlap, if only a little. But it is significant.

03-11-2009, 07:23 PM	#29
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	You do realize that post contradicts itself, right?

03-11-2009, 07:29 PM	#30
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Why do I hear this so much? It looks fine to me...

03-11-2009, 10:13 PM	#32
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	The DK games, according to Wikipedia, state that there exist two contradictory statements. One citation has Cranky reference to DK as his "grandson", the other calls him son. I think Nintendo chose to go with the "Grandpa" theory, I suppose making DK the regular DK, and Cranky being an original character. But the first DKC makes so many refrences to Cranky being the original DK, that I don't know for sure...

03-11-2009, 11:29 PM	#33
Chaos Deviot Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mt. Moon Gender: Posts: 1,565 Thanks: 131 Thanked 34 Times in 31 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I do consider them different series, and the storyline ending at the end of Donkey Kong 64. All the rest of the games are in the Marioverse(Donkey Konga included). When a new and GOOD game comes out, maybe it could be brought back into canon. As for Diddy Kong Racing, it's argueable, though.

03-12-2009, 12:07 AM	#34
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,655 Thanks: 153 Thanked 1,386 Times in 704 Posts	When I say there's next to no overlap, I mean it in the sense that, aside from DK and Diddy, we've never seen any DK characters or settings in a Mario game. Likewise with Mario characters in a DK game. ^What's arguable about DKR?

03-12-2009, 12:17 AM	#35
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ Technically, if Cranky does turn out to be the original DK, that makes three from the DK series to pop-up in Mario games. Those're all the connections I can make anyway.

03-12-2009, 12:45 AM	#37
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,655 Thanks: 153 Thanked 1,386 Times in 704 Posts	^Fair enough. I was mostly talking main-sequence games, but I suppose the sports count.

03-12-2009, 01:55 AM	#39
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ I wanna get ahod of that Pac-Man/Mario Kart. 'Course, that's a Japan-only arcade game. I won't be playing that anytime soon. =/