Do you consider the DK series part of the Marioverse?

Dizzy · 03-10-2009, 08:15 PM

A lot of places consider the Donkey Kong series to be seperate from the Mario series. However, I've always thought that DK was just a Mario spinoff and nothing more. Also, most of these same place lump the Yoshi and Wario series in with Mario.

So what's your opinion on this controversial topic?

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-10-2009, 08:26 PM

Of course they are. Nintendo just keeps them as seperate as possible to pretend like they have five seperate franchises from Yoshi, DK, Wario, even Luigi and Peach to a certain extent.

I am nobody · 03-10-2009, 08:37 PM

I consider Mario part of the DK series.

(and yes, I am aware he was called "Jumpman" back then. Changing the name means nothing)

Dizzy · 03-10-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I am nobody

I consider Mario part of the DK series.

You make an interesting point.

ZeldaGirl · 03-10-2009, 08:49 PM

Eh, I tend to think of them separately.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-10-2009, 08:49 PM

Mario Kart features DK and all other Mario spinoff stars.

MARIO. Kart.

ZeldaGirl · 03-10-2009, 08:56 PM

Yeah, but the universes aren't really connected other than they 'know' each other. Totally different environments and styles (at least from what I remember, it's been a while since I've played any Donkey Kong).

I don't care if you see them as a spin-off, I've just always regarded the series as separate.

Dizzy · 03-10-2009, 08:56 PM

I supposed they would technically be the same, since they both originated from the same game.

ZeldaGirl · 03-10-2009, 08:57 PM

If anything, Mario is a spin-off of Donkey Kong.

O SHI-

Dizzy · 03-10-2009, 09:00 PM

To me, Donkey Kong is just a Mario game with a "Donkey Kong" title.

Mario is the protagonist, after all.

ZeldaGirl · 03-10-2009, 09:06 PM

Well, in reference to that point - why don't we say "Link" games rather than "Zelda", then? After all, he is the main protagonist... some games, she's not even in!

On a more serious note, though...just as 'Plummer Man' is actually "Mario", why can't 'Donkey Kong' just be "King Kong" whose name had to be changed due to copyright laws?

I highly doubt it's the same Kong - would you really invite the (evil) guy who kidnapped one of your girlfriends to ride go-karts with you?

I'm more thinking, the developers were like, "We have this giant monkey, let's take this idea, make him good, and run with it" more than it was a "man, let's spin this off the Mario game, but have the universes still be vaguely connected", y'know?

**X-3** · 03-10-2009, 09:11 PM

I consider Donkey Kong separate due to the fact it has enough stand-alone games to be considered a separate series. Wario is the same, but I don't consider Yoshi the same.

also, I thought Cranky was confirmed to be the original DK, and Donkey to be Jr, or maybe I'm crazy.

***DJ Blue J*** · 03-10-2009, 09:38 PM

The DK series is now totally independent of the Mario Series. Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong from the arcade game, and he's way past his prime. That was Nintendo's way of saying "All right guys, that game still exists, but let's move on now, mmkay?"

If you don't think DK and Mario are separate franchises, I advise you to go play Donkey Kong Country.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-10-2009, 10:30 PM

ZG: The reason DK and Bowser were in Mario Kart is unknown story-wise, but my mention of it was to make a point: Any game with Mario in the title features, mainly, only Mario-universe charcters, not, say, Pit. Never are there other Nintendo characters in a Mario titled spinoff.

And, March of the Minis, anyone? Thought it was a Mario/DK game. =|

Speed · 03-10-2009, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

ZG: The reason DK and Bowser were in Mario Kart is unknown story-wise, but my mention of it was to make a point: Any game with Mario in the title features, mainly, only Mario-universe charcters, not, say, Pit. Never are there other Nintendo characters in a Mario titled spinoff.

Mario Kart DS is epic.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 03-10-2009, 10:37 PM

I agree. But...why the quote.. o_O

***CaptHayfever*** · 03-11-2009, 12:13 AM

Mario vs. Donkey Kong, anybody? I liked it.

Also, if memory serves, Mario was the villain of Donkey Kong Jr.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Robotazy · 03-11-2009, 12:46 AM

what about Pac-Man?

Metal Man · 03-11-2009, 04:00 AM

The only reason people dispute this is all those f***ing horrible Bonga racing games they've been throwing at us like rotten eyeballs recently. If Rare hadn't abandoned ship or somebody competent made a worthy sequel to the DKC series, nobody would question its separateness.

Heck, even the silly DK64 reinforced the separateness. Today? It's hard to say Donkey Kong functions much as a character anymore.

Swordmaster Link · 03-11-2009, 04:30 AM

Separate. No argument.

03-10-2009, 08:15 PM	#1
Dizzy A Real Sonic Hero Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 18,222 Thanks: 1,670 Thanked 1,078 Times in 751 Posts Blog Entries: 111	Do you consider the DK series part of the Marioverse? A lot of places consider the Donkey Kong series to be seperate from the Mario series. However, I've always thought that DK was just a Mario spinoff and nothing more. Also, most of these same place lump the Yoshi and Wario series in with Mario. So what's your opinion on this controversial topic?

03-10-2009, 08:26 PM	#2
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Of course they are. Nintendo just keeps them as seperate as possible to pretend like they have five seperate franchises from Yoshi, DK, Wario, even Luigi and Peach to a certain extent.

03-10-2009, 08:37 PM	#3
I am nobody Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Over there. Gender: Posts: 5,515 Thanks: 309 Thanked 365 Times in 242 Posts Blog Entries: 7	I consider Mario part of the DK series. (and yes, I am aware he was called "Jumpman" back then. Changing the name means nothing)

03-10-2009, 08:49 PM	#5
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	Eh, I tend to think of them separately.

03-10-2009, 08:56 PM	#7
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	Yeah, but the universes aren't really connected other than they 'know' each other. Totally different environments and styles (at least from what I remember, it's been a while since I've played any Donkey Kong). I don't care if you see them as a spin-off, I've just always regarded the series as separate.

03-10-2009, 08:57 PM	#9
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	If anything, Mario is a spin-off of Donkey Kong. O SHI-

03-10-2009, 09:00 PM	#10
Dizzy A Real Sonic Hero Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 18,222 Thanks: 1,670 Thanked 1,078 Times in 751 Posts Blog Entries: 111	To me, Donkey Kong is just a Mario game with a "Donkey Kong" title. Mario is the protagonist, after all.

03-10-2009, 09:06 PM	#11
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,877 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 1,902 Times in 1,040 Posts	Well, in reference to that point - why don't we say "Link" games rather than "Zelda", then? After all, he is the main protagonist... some games, she's not even in! On a more serious note, though...just as 'Plummer Man' is actually "Mario", why can't 'Donkey Kong' just be "King Kong" whose name had to be changed due to copyright laws? I highly doubt it's the same Kong - would you really invite the (evil) guy who kidnapped one of your girlfriends to ride go-karts with you? I'm more thinking, the developers were like, "We have this giant monkey, let's take this idea, make him good, and run with it" more than it was a "man, let's spin this off the Mario game, but have the universes still be vaguely connected", y'know?

03-10-2009, 09:11 PM	#12
X-3 No avatar, no justice, no dreams, no hope! Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,508 Thanks: 733 Thanked 1,158 Times in 751 Posts Blog Entries: 10	I consider Donkey Kong separate due to the fact it has enough stand-alone games to be considered a separate series. Wario is the same, but I don't consider Yoshi the same. also, I thought Cranky was confirmed to be the original DK, and Donkey to be Jr, or maybe I'm crazy.

03-10-2009, 09:38 PM	#13
*DJ Blue J* Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 28,366 Thanks: 2,335 Thanked 1,698 Times in 917 Posts	The DK series is now totally independent of the Mario Series. Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong from the arcade game, and he's way past his prime. That was Nintendo's way of saying "All right guys, that game still exists, but let's move on now, mmkay?" If you don't think DK and Mario are separate franchises, I advise you to go play Donkey Kong Country.

03-10-2009, 10:30 PM	#14
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	ZG: The reason DK and Bowser were in Mario Kart is unknown story-wise, but my mention of it was to make a point: Any game with Mario in the title features, mainly, only Mario-universe charcters, not, say, Pit. Never are there other Nintendo characters in a Mario titled spinoff. And, March of the Minis, anyone? Thought it was a Mario/DK game. =\|

03-11-2009, 12:46 AM	#18
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,284 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,238 Times in 885 Posts Blog Entries: 43	what about Pac-Man?

03-10-2009, 10:37 PM	#16
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I agree. But...why the quote.. o_O

03-11-2009, 12:13 AM	#17
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,014 Thanks: 1,788 Thanked 2,371 Times in 1,423 Posts	Mario vs. Donkey Kong, anybody? I liked it. Also, if memory serves, Mario was the villain of Donkey Kong Jr. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

03-11-2009, 04:00 AM	#19
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	The only reason people dispute this is all those f***ing horrible Bonga racing games they've been throwing at us like rotten eyeballs recently. If Rare hadn't abandoned ship or somebody competent made a worthy sequel to the DKC series, nobody would question its separateness. Heck, even the silly DK64 reinforced the separateness. Today? It's hard to say Donkey Kong functions much as a character anymore.

03-11-2009, 04:30 AM	#20
Swordmaster Link Super Bodyguard & King of the Arcade Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Wherever you want me to be Gender: Posts: 32,132 Thanks: 253 Thanked 951 Times in 640 Posts Blog Entries: 2	Separate. No argument.