Why I think Mario Sunshine is an unpopular game. - Page 2

CuccoLady · 11-14-2009, 12:30 AM

I loved sunshine.

Personally, I felt it was like the TTYD of the 3-D marios; the second game, all three were amazing, of the three it was my least favorite but I still love it to death, pieces, and beyond.

I don't think the fact that it was different is any reason to call it 'not a Mario game.' [Also Bowser Jr. has been around for ages, he just was made BIG by sunshine really.] It was a new twist on an epic series. Just because the Metroid Prime games took a first-person shooter-esque viewpoint doesn't make them 'not Metroid', does it? I thought the water idea was a very unique and creative spin. I thoroughly enjoyed this game.

I dunno what all the hatin' is about. Yes, I liked 64 and Galaxy better, but this game still rocked my socks.

Robotazy · 11-14-2009, 01:01 AM

MARIO! HOW DARE YOU DISTURB MY FAMILY VACATION!

Also, Some of the Secrets were a pain in my ass.

***the Octopus*** · 11-14-2009, 03:39 AM

I didn't like the island theme permeating the game. I didn't like the graffiti-removal gameplay, I wanted platforming-heavy gameplay. I didn't like the new enemy designs. I especially dislike Bowser Jr. I didn't like the NPC designs. I didn't like the graphical style. I didn't like the music much. I didn't find the level design at all inspiring. I didn't like the voices. I didn't like the way Yoshi was handled. I didn't like the plot.

I liked the haunted hotel. That was pretty much straight-up Super Mario RPG style gameplay, though, which made it strange that it should so appropriately do something it probably wasn't trying to do at all.

Can't say anything else in the game was remarkable.

I remember reading that the lead level designer said he didn't want to include free-floating blocks, and that seemed to explain a lot to me: much like the platforms, he wanted it all to make sense. Mario doesn't make sense. Try to force Super Mario Bros. into a world that has reasons for things, and you're probably not understanding the original appeal of SMB at all. It used to be about a fat plumber who majestically soars through the air, and combats legions of the turtle army for control of the kingdom of mushrooms. This game is about that, but more about cleaning and through that giving Mario a gimmick. Not. Fun.

Antisocial · 11-14-2009, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquatic Mine

Also, Some of the Secrets were a pain in my ass.

Funnily enough, the secret stages were probably the only parts of it that actually felt like I was playing a Mario game.

1-up Salesman · 11-14-2009, 09:32 AM

I love this game. The secret stages were fun. The final boss was pretty fun. The last level was fun. I liked the setting, since it's just one Mario game. I didn't like that Yoshi dissolved. And I was a bit mad that Luigi wasn't in it. But I love Super Mario Sunshine. We need to form a group or something for people that hate it, and then a social group for people that like it...

JaredThaJa888 · 11-14-2009, 12:05 PM

Watching the ending on Youtube, I think Bowser's voice has allot to do with it, that was horrible.

Metal Mario · 11-14-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CuccoLady

Also Bowser Jr. has been around for ages, he just was made BIG by sunshine really.

Bowser Jr. made his debut appearance in Super Mario Sunshine. He never appeared in any game before that one, but went on to become a major fixture of the Mario universe afterwards.

You might be thinking of Baby Bowser from Yoshi's Island, or the mini-Bowsers from the Mario Party series, but those are both entirely different characters. Baby Bowser is King Bowser as an infant, and the mini-Bowsers seem to be little more than mere minions. There was an instance in Mario Party 4 when one of the mini-Bowsers addressed King Bowser as "Dad", but aside from that, I've never seen any indication that there is a blood relationship between King Bowser and the mini-Bowsers.

***DJ Blue J*** · 11-14-2009, 01:31 PM

Yeah, CL, Bowser Jr. is actually Bowser's son (?). Baby Bowser was actually Bowser as a baby, a la Baby Mario.

also, I think TTYD was the best of the series. /shrug

JaredThaJa888 · 11-14-2009, 02:07 PM

TTYD is indeed the 2nd best Role Playing Mario Game after RPG it'self.

Metal Mario · 11-14-2009, 03:03 PM

^I'd go along with that.

11-14-2009, 12:30 AM	#21
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 8,457 Thanks: 2,666 Thanked 1,076 Times in 725 Posts	I loved sunshine. Personally, I felt it was like the TTYD of the 3-D marios; the second game, all three were amazing, of the three it was my least favorite but I still love it to death, pieces, and beyond. I don't think the fact that it was different is any reason to call it 'not a Mario game.' [Also Bowser Jr. has been around for ages, he just was made BIG by sunshine really.] It was a new twist on an epic series. Just because the Metroid Prime games took a first-person shooter-esque viewpoint doesn't make them 'not Metroid', does it? I thought the water idea was a very unique and creative spin. I thoroughly enjoyed this game. I dunno what all the hatin' is about. Yes, I liked 64 and Galaxy better, but this game still rocked my socks.

11-14-2009, 01:01 AM	#22
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,284 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,238 Times in 885 Posts Blog Entries: 43	MARIO! HOW DARE YOU DISTURB MY FAMILY VACATION! Also, Some of the Secrets were a pain in my ass.

11-14-2009, 03:39 AM	#23
*the Octopus* THE PRESIDENT OF FUN Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 27,481 Thanks: 1,974 Thanked 5,121 Times in 2,320 Posts	I didn't like the island theme permeating the game. I didn't like the graffiti-removal gameplay, I wanted platforming-heavy gameplay. I didn't like the new enemy designs. I especially dislike Bowser Jr. I didn't like the NPC designs. I didn't like the graphical style. I didn't like the music much. I didn't find the level design at all inspiring. I didn't like the voices. I didn't like the way Yoshi was handled. I didn't like the plot. I liked the haunted hotel. That was pretty much straight-up Super Mario RPG style gameplay, though, which made it strange that it should so appropriately do something it probably wasn't trying to do at all. Can't say anything else in the game was remarkable. I remember reading that the lead level designer said he didn't want to include free-floating blocks, and that seemed to explain a lot to me: much like the platforms, he wanted it all to make sense. Mario doesn't make sense. Try to force Super Mario Bros. into a world that has reasons for things, and you're probably not understanding the original appeal of SMB at all. It used to be about a fat plumber who majestically soars through the air, and combats legions of the turtle army for control of the kingdom of mushrooms. This game is about that, but more about cleaning and through that giving Mario a gimmick. Not. Fun.

11-14-2009, 09:32 AM	#25
1-up Salesman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Your bedroom. I love it here! Gender: Posts: 3,861 Thanks: 2,071 Thanked 228 Times in 180 Posts Blog Entries: 9	I love this game. The secret stages were fun. The final boss was pretty fun. The last level was fun. I liked the setting, since it's just one Mario game. I didn't like that Yoshi dissolved. And I was a bit mad that Luigi wasn't in it. But I love Super Mario Sunshine. We need to form a group or something for people that hate it, and then a social group for people that like it...

11-14-2009, 12:05 PM	#26
JaredThaJa888 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Racine Wisconsin Gender: Posts: 676 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	Watching the ending on Youtube, I think Bowser's voice has allot to do with it, that was horrible.

11-14-2009, 01:31 PM	#28
*DJ Blue J* Moderator of Awesome Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 28,366 Thanks: 2,335 Thanked 1,698 Times in 917 Posts	Yeah, CL, Bowser Jr. is actually Bowser's son (?). Baby Bowser was actually Bowser as a baby, a la Baby Mario. also, I think TTYD was the best of the series. /shrug

11-14-2009, 02:07 PM	#29
JaredThaJa888 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Racine Wisconsin Gender: Posts: 676 Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	TTYD is indeed the 2nd best Role Playing Mario Game after RPG it'self.

11-14-2009, 03:03 PM	#30
Metal Mario Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Gender: Posts: 16,435 Thanks: 72 Thanked 190 Times in 127 Posts	^I'd go along with that.