Is Luigi's Final Smash based on the Mario Bros. glitch level?

Dark Seraphim · 12-01-2009, 01:51 PM

I suppose this could also be posted in the Super Smash Bros. forum as well, but this is specifically about Luigi's role in the game and his final move possibly being an allusion to an early Mario game.

The Negative Zone is basically a swell of negative energy, supposedly an allusion to when Luigi faced being evil while in Mario's Shadow, like from Super Paper Mario. But . . . I also know there is a Negative World (Zone) in the very first Mario Bros. game, World -1. It was a glitchy level with no escape, just like Luigi's move causes the other characters to glitch horribly, unable to control themselves.

Could it be the glitch-inducing Negative Zone may be an allusion to the glitchy World -1 from the Mario Bros. game?

Metal Man · 12-01-2009, 02:15 PM

It, in fact, may be an allusion to the Famicom version, where the negative level series is filled with increasingly trippy insanity (underwater princess clones, the castle underwater, etc.)

Dark Seraphim · 12-01-2009, 02:20 PM

^

I have never heard of this version before, I demand proof!

Glux · 12-01-2009, 02:21 PM

Well, if you play any of the old GameBoy Games on a GameBoy Color, if you press B+Right when you start it up, it inverts colors...

Ofcourse, if you press any combination of A/B+D-Pad the colors would change so...

**Valigarmander** · 12-01-2009, 05:18 PM

It's based off of Dio Brando's special attack.

Dark Seraphim · 12-01-2009, 05:39 PM

^

Who?

Antisocial · 12-01-2009, 08:01 PM

^ From the manga JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. It's a long story.

Something that's always concerned me is that the US version of Brawl mentions that the Negative Zone is a result of Luigi's supposed resent from being in Mario's shadow in the Final Smash's trophy description, but the European version of the game leaves this out.

I suppose America likes putting angst into certain characters. They eat that **** up.

SephirothKirby · 12-01-2009, 08:44 PM

WRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

heh · 12-01-2009, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valigarmander

It's based off of Dio Brando's special attack.

mind blown

Dizzy · 12-01-2009, 09:10 PM

I remember no glitch level in this game.

**X-3** · 12-01-2009, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antisocial

I suppose America likes putting angst into certain characters. They eat that **** up.

I think the 'angrier' Kirby boxarts are a good enough sign of that.

I never put all the pieces of the puzzle together, so I just realized that you're completely right. Nice observation.

Luigiman7 · 12-01-2009, 09:32 PM

It's all the pent up angst energy from being player 2 for so long, released into one burst.

And by angst, I mean awesomely nawesomely good sunny time.

1-up Salesman · 12-01-2009, 09:52 PM

Can someone explain to me this: being in Mario's shadow causes Luigi to create a large green circle and dance uncontrollably?

Glux · 12-01-2009, 09:54 PM

Does anyone else notice that when Luigi uses the Negative Zone it sounds like he's chanting "Fal-co Fal-co Fal-co"?

The Eye In The Sky · 12-01-2009, 10:20 PM

Every someone uses Luigi's final smash I'm reminded of George Harrison.

Dark Seraphim · 12-01-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZero

I remember no glitch level in this game.

Errr . . . Super Mario Bros. then . . .

***CaptHayfever*** · 12-01-2009, 11:26 PM

^^^^It's negative energy being released.

^^^He doesn't say anything.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Glux · 12-02-2009, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

^^^He doesn't say anything.

I know he doesn't, but he sounds like it.

Dark Seraphim · 12-02-2009, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metal Man

It, in fact, may be an allusion to the Famicom version, where the negative level series is filled with increasingly trippy insanity (underwater princess clones, the castle underwater, etc.)

Still waiting for pictures or video of this game, Metal Mario!

Metal Mario · 12-02-2009, 12:45 PM

^You mean Metal Man.

But he's right. And here are some screenshots.

12-01-2009, 01:51 PM	#1
Dark Seraphim Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Posts: 431 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Is Luigi's Final Smash based on the Mario Bros. glitch level? I suppose this could also be posted in the Super Smash Bros. forum as well, but this is specifically about Luigi's role in the game and his final move possibly being an allusion to an early Mario game. The Negative Zone is basically a swell of negative energy, supposedly an allusion to when Luigi faced being evil while in Mario's Shadow, like from Super Paper Mario. But . . . I also know there is a Negative World (Zone) in the very first Mario Bros. game, World -1. It was a glitchy level with no escape, just like Luigi's move causes the other characters to glitch horribly, unable to control themselves. Could it be the glitch-inducing Negative Zone may be an allusion to the glitchy World -1 from the Mario Bros. game?

12-01-2009, 05:18 PM	#5
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,223 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,553 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	It's based off of Dio Brando's special attack. __________________

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Antisocial Janitor Join Date: May 2000 Gender: Posts: 11,178 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1,102 Times in 458 Posts	Wry? ^ From the manga JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. It's a long story. Something that's always concerned me is that the US version of Brawl mentions that the Negative Zone is a result of Luigi's supposed resent from being in Mario's shadow in the Final Smash's trophy description, but the European version of the game leaves this out. I suppose America likes putting angst into certain characters. They eat that **** up.

12-01-2009, 09:32 PM	#12
Luigiman7 ~)´◡｀(~ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: representin da bronx yo Gender: Posts: 17,308 Thanks: 1,100 Thanked 992 Times in 698 Posts Blog Entries: 8	It's all the pent up angst energy from being player 2 for so long, released into one burst. And by angst, I mean awesomely nawesomely good sunny time. __________________ ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ＷＯＮ’Ｔ　ＹＯＵ　ＢＥＣＯＭＥ　Ａ　ＭＡＧＩＣＡＬ　ＧＩＲＬ？ Last edited by Luigiman7; 12-01-2009 at 09:44 PM.

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Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	It, in fact, may be an allusion to the Famicom version, where the negative level series is filled with increasingly trippy insanity (underwater princess clones, the castle underwater, etc.)

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Dark Seraphim Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Posts: 431 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	^ I have never heard of this version before, I demand proof!

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Glux Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Home Gender: Posts: 7,042 Thanks: 612 Thanked 354 Times in 231 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Well, if you play any of the old GameBoy Games on a GameBoy Color, if you press B+Right when you start it up, it inverts colors... Ofcourse, if you press any combination of A/B+D-Pad the colors would change so...

12-01-2009, 05:39 PM	#6
Dark Seraphim Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Posts: 431 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	^ Who?

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SephirothKirby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it. Gender: Posts: 7,055 Thanks: 365 Thanked 737 Times in 433 Posts	WRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

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Dizzy A Real Sonic Hero Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 18,220 Thanks: 1,670 Thanked 1,077 Times in 750 Posts Blog Entries: 111	I remember no glitch level in this game.

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1-up Salesman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Your bedroom. I love it here! Gender: Posts: 3,861 Thanks: 2,071 Thanked 228 Times in 180 Posts Blog Entries: 9	Can someone explain to me this: being in Mario's shadow causes Luigi to create a large green circle and dance uncontrollably?

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Glux Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Home Gender: Posts: 7,042 Thanks: 612 Thanked 354 Times in 231 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Does anyone else notice that when Luigi uses the Negative Zone it sounds like he's chanting "Fal-co Fal-co Fal-co"?

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The Eye In The Sky Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Looking at you. I can read your mind. Gender: Posts: 6,951 Thanks: 179 Thanked 348 Times in 269 Posts	Every someone uses Luigi's final smash I'm reminded of George Harrison.

12-01-2009, 11:26 PM	#17
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,014 Thanks: 1,787 Thanked 2,371 Times in 1,423 Posts	^^^^It's negative energy being released. ^^^He doesn't say anything. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

12-02-2009, 12:45 PM	#20
Metal Mario Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Gender: Posts: 16,435 Thanks: 72 Thanked 190 Times in 127 Posts	^You mean Metal Man. But he's right. And here are some screenshots.