Mixed reaction to Luigi/Luigi in Mario Galaxy

Dark Seraphim · 12-21-2009, 12:59 PM

I've actually never been able to get all 120 Power Stars in Super Mario Galaxy sadly, I just seem to suck at the Cosmic Races and the Purple Coins challenge. However, out of curiosity I did start looking up the games "Plus Mode" featuring Luigi, instead of Mario, as the game's title character. To be more precise, I was especially curious about what happens when normally Luigi would be featured, like the Luigi Stars, and Luigi and the Haunted Mansion . . . well I looked it up, and was surprised to discover this:

I have to admit, I am more than a little dissapointed that the designers actually decided instead of removing the Luigi model for the Mario model, they just left Luigi there to create a Time Paradox with himself. Its a little amusing, I admit, to see Luigi's reaction to being saved by . . . himself, but after the initial amusement it just seems like laziness on the programmer's part. Seriously, would it have been that hard to have put Mario's model there instead? They've already changed the dialogue slightly, and it would have been a trip to see Mario being saved by Luigi, or seeing Mario in the background playing second banana when Luigi gets a "Mario" Star.

Honestly, I am dissapointed to discover they didn't go the extra effort, one way or another. Sure, I would have preferred if they had taken the time to put Mario in Luigi's place, but even if they were going to leave it as they did, they could have made the extra effort to make it a bit more surreal, instead of "Oh hey, I am being saved by . . . me. Neat!" Like its an everyday occurance to just run into yourself . . . ok, maaaaaybe that does happen in the Mario universe sometimes, but still, I think my point remains valid. Whether switching roles or leaving Luigi to save himself, they should have pushed it a little farther, I mean come on, to even get this far we'd have had to collect some 120-150 odd stars and already beaten the game once, a little extra effort for games that dedicated would have been nice.

Dizzy · 12-21-2009, 01:07 PM

You may also notice that playable Luigi and NPC Luigi are actually different sizes.

Dark Seraphim · 12-21-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Miser

You may also notice that playable Luigi and NPC Luigi are actually different sizes.

That's even worse! That means the programmer's were too lazy even to make the Luigi model consistant at all. Having two noticably different models of the same character . . .

This whole "reward for beating the game as Mario" thing is starting to sound less and less worth it.

Dizzy · 12-21-2009, 01:38 PM

Meh, so everything's not perfect.

I still think it's pretty cool.

Luigiman7 · 12-21-2009, 02:36 PM

Mario doesn't talk.

That's the problem.

Dark Seraphim · 12-21-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LuigiWoman

Mario doesn't talk.

That's the problem.

What? Mario talks all the time.

When you first start the game you hear Mario screeching out "SUPER MARIO GALAXY!!!!"

Luigiman7 · 12-21-2009, 02:55 PM

He doesn't talk in full sentences like Luigi in games. Not in text bubbles, anyway.

Dark Seraphim · 12-21-2009, 03:22 PM

I don't see the benefit though of instead of actually giving Mario lines in his own game, instead they decide to create a temporal or statial paradox by having Luigi interacting with himself. I mean, sure, Luigi has interacted with Baby Luigi before, but this is just laziness on the programmer's part, in my opinion.

***CaptHayfever*** · 12-21-2009, 03:27 PM

Or it's post-modern comedy, and I find it hilarious.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Valigarmander** · 12-21-2009, 04:03 PM

Mario doesn't speak any dialogue. That'd be an issue if they just swapped NPC Luigi with Mario. It also wouldn't be natural to see Mario clinging to a tree to hide from a bug, or to be caught in other Luigi-ish situations. Another thing, the difference in size between playable Luigi and NPC Luigi isn't that great, as you can see.

The whole thing was probably done to minimize the extra changes they'd have to throw in with this bonus mode of play. They made a joke out of the two Luigis encountering each other, as well.

Antisocial · 12-21-2009, 07:14 PM

I've managed to convince myself that playable Luigi is the real Luigi, as the NPC looks a little too tall.

**X-3** · 12-21-2009, 09:49 PM

I was a bit disappointed at first too, but I shrugged my shoulders and proceeded to help myself out. Now I don't really care.

Dr. Furball · 12-21-2009, 11:17 PM

It didn't bother me any, since it's just a little bonus for completing the main game 100%.
Heck, Luigi doesn't even get an opening movie.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 12-22-2009, 02:15 AM

Well, more effort would have been nice but at least it gives you something for beating the game.

12-21-2009, 12:59 PM	#1
Dark Seraphim Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Posts: 431 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Mixed reaction to Luigi/Luigi in Mario Galaxy I've actually never been able to get all 120 Power Stars in Super Mario Galaxy sadly, I just seem to suck at the Cosmic Races and the Purple Coins challenge. However, out of curiosity I did start looking up the games "Plus Mode" featuring Luigi, instead of Mario, as the game's title character. To be more precise, I was especially curious about what happens when normally Luigi would be featured, like the Luigi Stars, and Luigi and the Haunted Mansion . . . well I looked it up, and was surprised to discover this: I have to admit, I am more than a little dissapointed that the designers actually decided instead of removing the Luigi model for the Mario model, they just left Luigi there to create a Time Paradox with himself. Its a little amusing, I admit, to see Luigi's reaction to being saved by . . . himself, but after the initial amusement it just seems like laziness on the programmer's part. Seriously, would it have been that hard to have put Mario's model there instead? They've already changed the dialogue slightly, and it would have been a trip to see Mario being saved by Luigi, or seeing Mario in the background playing second banana when Luigi gets a "Mario" Star. Honestly, I am dissapointed to discover they didn't go the extra effort, one way or another. Sure, I would have preferred if they had taken the time to put Mario in Luigi's place, but even if they were going to leave it as they did, they could have made the extra effort to make it a bit more surreal, instead of "Oh hey, I am being saved by . . . me. Neat!" Like its an everyday occurance to just run into yourself . . . ok, maaaaaybe that does happen in the Mario universe sometimes, but still, I think my point remains valid. Whether switching roles or leaving Luigi to save himself, they should have pushed it a little farther, I mean come on, to even get this far we'd have had to collect some 120-150 odd stars and already beaten the game once, a little extra effort for games that dedicated would have been nice.

12-21-2009, 02:36 PM	#5
Luigiman7 ヽ(◔ ◡ ◔)ノ.･ﾟ*｡･+☆ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ~)´◡｀(~ Gender: Posts: 17,605 Thanks: 1,134 Thanked 1,012 Times in 713 Posts Blog Entries: 8	Mario doesn't talk. That's the problem. __________________ ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ＷＯＮ’Ｔ　ＹＯＵ　ＢＥＣＯＭＥ　Ａ　ＭＡＧＩＣＡＬ　ＧＩＲＬ？

12-21-2009, 02:55 PM	#7
Luigiman7 ヽ(◔ ◡ ◔)ノ.･ﾟ*｡･+☆ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ~)´◡｀(~ Gender: Posts: 17,605 Thanks: 1,134 Thanked 1,012 Times in 713 Posts Blog Entries: 8	He doesn't talk in full sentences like Luigi in games. Not in text bubbles, anyway. __________________ ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ＷＯＮ’Ｔ　ＹＯＵ　ＢＥＣＯＭＥ　Ａ　ＭＡＧＩＣＡＬ　ＧＩＲＬ？

12-21-2009, 07:14 PM	#11
Antisocial Janitor Join Date: May 2000 Gender: Posts: 11,471 Thanks: 14 Thanked 1,296 Times in 536 Posts	It's all good. I've managed to convince myself that playable Luigi is the real Luigi, as the NPC looks a little too tall.

12-21-2009, 01:07 PM	#2
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,162 Times in 805 Posts Blog Entries: 116	You may also notice that playable Luigi and NPC Luigi are actually different sizes.

12-21-2009, 01:38 PM	#4
Dizzy Podiaphobe Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 19,359 Thanks: 1,764 Thanked 1,162 Times in 805 Posts Blog Entries: 116	Meh, so everything's not perfect. I still think it's pretty cool.

12-21-2009, 03:22 PM	#8
Dark Seraphim Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Posts: 431 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	I don't see the benefit though of instead of actually giving Mario lines in his own game, instead they decide to create a temporal or statial paradox by having Luigi interacting with himself. I mean, sure, Luigi has interacted with Baby Luigi before, but this is just laziness on the programmer's part, in my opinion.

12-21-2009, 03:27 PM	#9
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Or it's post-modern comedy, and I find it hilarious. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

12-21-2009, 04:03 PM	#10
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	Mario doesn't speak any dialogue. That'd be an issue if they just swapped NPC Luigi with Mario. It also wouldn't be natural to see Mario clinging to a tree to hide from a bug, or to be caught in other Luigi-ish situations. Another thing, the difference in size between playable Luigi and NPC Luigi isn't that great, as you can see. The whole thing was probably done to minimize the extra changes they'd have to throw in with this bonus mode of play. They made a joke out of the two Luigis encountering each other, as well.

12-21-2009, 09:49 PM	#12
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	I was a bit disappointed at first too, but I shrugged my shoulders and proceeded to help myself out. Now I don't really care.

12-21-2009, 11:17 PM	#13
Dr. Furball Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mad Science Academy, 12th Floor Gender: Posts: 1,125 Thanks: 185 Thanked 97 Times in 60 Posts	It didn't bother me any, since it's just a little bonus for completing the main game 100%. Heck, Luigi doesn't even get an opening movie.

12-22-2009, 02:15 AM	#14
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,717 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 275 Times in 234 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Well, more effort would have been nice but at least it gives you something for beating the game.