Who is Bowser Supreme? - Page 2

***the Octopus*** · 01-05-2010, 06:52 AM

I think he's uncreative schlock, and just an easy maneuver out of paying anyone to make more models. :P

Kargath · 01-05-2010, 06:55 AM

Please don't start debating Mario chronology. Zelda timelineism is bad enough.

**Cravdraa** · 01-05-2010, 01:03 PM

In Melee I was once fighting Giga Bowser and he managed to pick up a metal box and a super mushroom at the same time.

Suddenly I was fighting something that took up over half the stage, was taller than I could jump and looked really freaking cool. It killed me with a single punch.

Why don't I see an option for giant metal Giga Bowser?

Gabriel · 01-05-2010, 04:20 PM

I voted Other, since you missed one.

Dark Bowser

(On the right)

Spoiler Below

INFO: This version of Bowser appeared in Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story as a mixture of the Dark Star and Bowser's genes. Not to mention Fawful. This version, while not actually the real Bowser, deserves a place on the poll because he does possess Bowser's genes, as well as his own immense power. Plus he looks cool.

PRO:
-Has all of Bowser's abilities, but even more powerful
-Has unique powers far greater than Bowser's own, like creating minions
-Can grow twice as large to become even more powerful
-Continually heals self if defeated

CON:
-Without the Dark Star Core, is utterly powerless
-Some powers may be Fawful's doing, which would not have happened if Fawful did not absorb Dark Star's power
-Susceptible to damage

Dark Seraphim · 01-05-2010, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel Rodriguez

I voted Other, since you missed one.

Dark Bowser

I thought about it, but he's not really a form of Bowser, meaning not a form Bowser can enter himself, its technically a different character. Although you can still vote for him under the "Other" tab if you think he counts. I admit he is powerful and definitely a contender, and really not included just due to a technicality.

One additional CON though:

Spoiler Below

CON
-If any source of the Dark Star is removed, will either stop fighting to look for that missing source, or can be destroyed outright by losing it after completion.

Antisocial · 01-07-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel Rodriguez

Dark Bowser

Pssh. Beat him with two Broggy Bonkers and a punch to the stomach. I then ended his source of power with a few jumps, a Snack Basket, and two Magic Windows.

What a pansy.

**X-3** · 01-07-2010, 08:51 PM

still a great fight though, especially with attacks being thrown around like the Dark Minions. Almost everything about that battle was great.

I don't think DB really counts as a Bowser form as much as a clone, though.

Luigiman7 · 01-07-2010, 08:53 PM

^^ I love the Magic Window and the Meteor thing. SO PWNSOME

Metal Mario · 01-07-2010, 08:59 PM

Broggy was awesome during that fight. He made Dark Bowser the easiest Mario RPG villain since Smithy.

Luigiman7 · 01-07-2010, 09:06 PM

Now i'm pissed that I didn't get the Broggy special. I think I was missing two Blitties, but they're easily obtainable.

...Oh well, 400+ damage with Magic Mirror is always fun.

Antisocial · 01-08-2010, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Leave Bond To Me

^^ I love the Magic Window and the Meteor thing. SO PWNSOME

Free rare items is the only reason Mighty Meteors rock so damn hard.

If you're cruising through the Gauntlet, break out the Meteors as much as you can; the items they give add to your pre-set inventory.

Spoiler Below

Especially in Class 7; Bowser X keeps handing my ass to me on a silver platter.

Dark Seraphim · 01-08-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

Spoiler Below

Bowser X

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Bowser X?

I liked how you obtained Magic Mirror then actually using it, I always ended up using the Yoohoo Barrels because I found that one easy to use over and over again!

Dark Seraphim · 01-08-2010, 02:34 PM

Anyone think Bowletta should be added to the list? It did have all the powers of Bowser and Cackletta combined, although it could be said it doesn't count as Cackletta had control over Bowser at the time, although you could also argue that Giga Bowser lacks Bowser's normal mental capacity as well.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 01-08-2010, 02:41 PM

^ It was more of a possession wasn't it?

Dark Seraphim · 01-08-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by I REALLY HATE POKEMON!

^ It was more of a possession wasn't it?

I suppose so, yeah, Cackletta was a spirit/soul/ghost in Fawful's hat and needed a body weak enough to not resist her, so while Bowser was incapacitacted she took over. But that's still a 'form' of Bowser, right? I mean Bowletta did have combined powers of Bowser and Cackletta, right?

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 01-08-2010, 02:56 PM

Well, in the most technical sense, it was still not Bowser; just his shell. Kind of like how Captain Ginyu took over Goku's body. "Ginyu Goku" isn't commonly considered a form of Goku's.

But it is arguable. I mean, it depends on what criteria for "forms" we're going on here. If it is anything to do with Bowser which counts, for example, just his genes as with Dark Bowser, then Bowletta would count.

However, if it has to be Bowser's self, mentally or physically, despite being warped, then they wouldn't count. With Bowletta and Dark Bowser, nothing but his physical self is left.

Antisocial · 01-08-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Seraphim

Spoiler Below

Bowser X?

Spoiler Below

Beating classes 1-6 in the Gauntlet unlocks class 7, which has you fighting every previous contender plus another Bowser fight, known as "Bowser X".

Recommended level: 50.

Gabriel · 01-08-2010, 10:38 PM

Super Paper Mario Spoilers
Spoiler Below

There was also the Dark Bowser from the Flopside Pit of 100 Trials, when you fight Shadoo, but that has absolutely no portion of the real Bowser (as compared to BIS Dark Bowser, who consumed a very few genes from Bowser's insides), plus he seemed less impressive.

After thinking it over, it seems the items on the list must be a transformation of Bowser's body, which mean Dark Bowser (BIS) was, in fact, illegal, since it was actually the Dark Star that transformed. Whether or not you consider Bowletta a legal entry depends on whether you believe Bowser must be in control of his own body. You might argue that Giga Bowser is not in control of his actions, but I believe he is, in fact, somewhat in control of himself, if not dumbed down somewhat, whereas Cackletta was clearly in control of Bowser's body.

EDIT: I revoked my vote and gave it to Star Rod Bowser. And, in my opinion, *inhale* HE WOULD TOTALLY BEAT ANY GIANT BOWSER. GIANT BOWSER'S JUST BIG, BUT STAR ROD BOWSER IS INVINCIBLE, HAS MULTIPLE SUPER POWERS, AND THEORETICALLY HE CAN BECOME INFINITELY MORE POWERFUL!!!!!! *pant* *gasp*

**Crazyswordsman** · 04-27-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Seraphim

Personally I've grown to like the Bowser Jr. character, I think he's a good alternative and addition to the Koopalings.

Blasphemy. The KKs own Junior. -CSM

Robotazy · 05-01-2010, 04:12 PM

Actually it's the other way around if NSMB Wii is anything to go by.

View Poll Results: Who is Bowser Supreme?
Star Rod Bowser	4	26.67%
Dry Bowser	2	13.33%
Giant Bowser	6	40.00%
Giga Bowser	2	13.33%
Other	1	6.67%
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01-07-2010, 08:53 PM	#28
Luigiman7 ~)´◡｀(~ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: representin da bronx yo Gender: Posts: 17,305 Thanks: 1,099 Thanked 992 Times in 698 Posts Blog Entries: 8	^^ I love the Magic Window and the Meteor thing. SO PWNSOME __________________ ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ＷＯＮ’Ｔ　ＹＯＵ　ＢＥＣＯＭＥ　Ａ　ＭＡＧＩＣＡＬ　ＧＩＲＬ？

01-07-2010, 09:06 PM	#30
Luigiman7 ~)´◡｀(~ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: representin da bronx yo Gender: Posts: 17,305 Thanks: 1,099 Thanked 992 Times in 698 Posts Blog Entries: 8	Now i'm pissed that I didn't get the Broggy special. I think I was missing two Blitties, but they're easily obtainable. ...Oh well, 400+ damage with Magic Mirror is always fun. __________________ ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ＷＯＮ’Ｔ　ＹＯＵ　ＢＥＣＯＭＥ　Ａ　ＭＡＧＩＣＡＬ　ＧＩＲＬ？

01-05-2010, 06:52 AM	#21
*the Octopus* THE PRESIDENT OF FUN Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 27,481 Thanks: 1,974 Thanked 5,121 Times in 2,320 Posts	I think he's uncreative schlock, and just an easy maneuver out of paying anyone to make more models. :P

01-05-2010, 06:55 AM	#22
Kargath Awesome member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: kargath64.deviantart.com Gender: Posts: 8,061 Thanks: 1,187 Thanked 729 Times in 458 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Please don't start debating Mario chronology. Zelda timelineism is bad enough.

01-05-2010, 01:03 PM	#23
Cravdraa VGF RPG Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's Round on the sides and high in the middle. Gender: Posts: 8,099 Thanks: 156 Thanked 593 Times in 368 Posts	In Melee I was once fighting Giga Bowser and he managed to pick up a metal box and a super mushroom at the same time. Suddenly I was fighting something that took up over half the stage, was taller than I could jump and looked really freaking cool. It killed me with a single punch. Why don't I see an option for giant metal Giga Bowser?

01-05-2010, 04:20 PM	#24
Gabriel Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pesterchum~ Gender: Posts: 2,316 Thanks: 111 Thanked 102 Times in 79 Posts	I voted Other, since you missed one. Dark Bowser (On the right) Spoiler Below INFO: This version of Bowser appeared in Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story as a mixture of the Dark Star and Bowser's genes. Not to mention Fawful. This version, while not actually the real Bowser, deserves a place on the poll because he does possess Bowser's genes, as well as his own immense power. Plus he looks cool. PRO: -Has all of Bowser's abilities, but even more powerful -Has unique powers far greater than Bowser's own, like creating minions -Can grow twice as large to become even more powerful -Continually heals self if defeated CON: -Without the Dark Star Core, is utterly powerless -Some powers may be Fawful's doing, which would not have happened if Fawful did not absorb Dark Star's power -Susceptible to damage

01-07-2010, 08:51 PM	#27
X-3 No avatar, no justice, no dreams, no hope! Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,508 Thanks: 732 Thanked 1,158 Times in 751 Posts Blog Entries: 10	still a great fight though, especially with attacks being thrown around like the Dark Minions. Almost everything about that battle was great. I don't think DB really counts as a Bowser form as much as a clone, though.

01-07-2010, 08:59 PM	#29
Metal Mario Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Gender: Posts: 16,435 Thanks: 72 Thanked 190 Times in 127 Posts	Broggy was awesome during that fight. He made Dark Bowser the easiest Mario RPG villain since Smithy.

01-08-2010, 02:34 PM	#33
Dark Seraphim Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Posts: 431 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Anyone think Bowletta should be added to the list? It did have all the powers of Bowser and Cackletta combined, although it could be said it doesn't count as Cackletta had control over Bowser at the time, although you could also argue that Giga Bowser lacks Bowser's normal mental capacity as well.

01-08-2010, 02:41 PM	#34
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ It was more of a possession wasn't it?

01-08-2010, 02:56 PM	#36
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Well, in the most technical sense, it was still not Bowser; just his shell. Kind of like how Captain Ginyu took over Goku's body. "Ginyu Goku" isn't commonly considered a form of Goku's. But it is arguable. I mean, it depends on what criteria for "forms" we're going on here. If it is anything to do with Bowser which counts, for example, just his genes as with Dark Bowser, then Bowletta would count. However, if it has to be Bowser's self, mentally or physically, despite being warped, then they wouldn't count. With Bowletta and Dark Bowser, nothing but his physical self is left.

01-08-2010, 10:38 PM	#38
Gabriel Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pesterchum~ Gender: Posts: 2,316 Thanks: 111 Thanked 102 Times in 79 Posts	Super Paper Mario Spoilers Spoiler Below There was also the Dark Bowser from the Flopside Pit of 100 Trials, when you fight Shadoo, but that has absolutely no portion of the real Bowser (as compared to BIS Dark Bowser, who consumed a very few genes from Bowser's insides), plus he seemed less impressive. After thinking it over, it seems the items on the list must be a transformation of Bowser's body, which mean Dark Bowser (BIS) was, in fact, illegal, since it was actually the Dark Star that transformed. Whether or not you consider Bowletta a legal entry depends on whether you believe Bowser must be in control of his own body. You might argue that Giga Bowser is not in control of his actions, but I believe he is, in fact, somewhat in control of himself, if not dumbed down somewhat, whereas Cackletta was clearly in control of Bowser's body. EDIT: I revoked my vote and gave it to Star Rod Bowser. And, in my opinion, inhale HE WOULD TOTALLY BEAT ANY GIANT BOWSER. GIANT BOWSER'S JUST BIG, BUT STAR ROD BOWSER IS INVINCIBLE, HAS MULTIPLE SUPER POWERS, AND THEORETICALLY HE CAN BECOME INFINITELY MORE POWERFUL!!!!!! pant gasp

05-01-2010, 04:12 PM	#40
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,284 Thanks: 521 Thanked 1,238 Times in 885 Posts Blog Entries: 43	Actually it's the other way around if NSMB Wii is anything to go by.