Who is Bowser Supreme?

Dark Seraphim · 12-31-2009, 04:30 PM

We've seen many Bowser's over the years, Bowser clones in SUper Mario Bros., Bowser striving to be the King of the Universe in Galaxy, even Bowser as a good guy on occassion. However, with all these forms out there, which ones reigns as "Bowser Supreme"? Who is the msot powerful, the most resiliant, the most cunning and improved from the original? I have picked 4 of Bowser's most powerful forms

Star Rod Bowser

INFO: This form of Bowser was introduced in the first Paper Mario, having stolen a rare and power artifact, the Star Rod, Bowser has quickly learned to use its immense power to grant his own wishes.

PRO
-Shield can makes Bowser nigh invulnerable.
-Magically enhanced power
-Access to magic and presdigitation (such as transforming Peach's Castle into a flying fortress)

CON
-Invulnerability Shield can be de-powered
-All power comes from the Star Rod, if its removed, Bowser loses its benefits

Dry Bowser

INFO: Featured first in NSMB, Dry Bowser is in actuality the Drybones version of Bowser, having lost his skin and body to a pool of lava.

PRO
-Drybones-invulnerability, can be knocked apart but assumingly could pull himself together like a normal Drybones
-Immunity to fire and lava since all his fire-weak parts burned away already
-Able to throw his own bones as projectiles

CON
-Not really any stronger than regular Bowser
-As a Drybones, he can be knocked apart

Giant Bowser

INFO: Giant Bowser is Bowser's form in (obviously) giant size. He has had this form forced through Magic by Kamek in SMBW, however as seen in SM:BIS Bowser is capable of enacting this change 'naturally' (with an adrenaline overload).

PRO
-HUGE SIZE (largest of the 4)
-Attacks are all at multiple times power
-Immense defense boost due to size
-Immune to lava

CON
-Can be difficult to hit smaller targets
-Size is temporary, whether magic or glandular, it wears off
-Although stronger defense, is not immune to damage, and can still be pushed back with a strong enough strike.

Giga Bowser

INFO: Intorduced in Super Smash Bros. Melee, Giga Bowser is one of the ultimate enemies in the game, and becomes Bowser's ultimate attack in its sequal, SSB:Brawl. Seems to require a large swell of energy to enter this form, such as a Smash Ball, and boasts quite a frightening visage as well as many improvements to the original Bowser.

PRO
-Increased power, both physical and special attacks are all stronger
-Attacks now have additional elemental powers
-(Near) Immunity to flinch or throw
-Larger size and weight

CON
-New ruthless form may have inhibited thinking process
-Form is 'very' temporary, only lasting a short time
-Although attacks are stronger, due to larger size some attack will pass over smaller targets

**Valigarmander** · 12-31-2009, 04:37 PM

Giant Bowser came right the hell out of nowhere.

And was freaking awesome.

Luigiman7 · 12-31-2009, 05:03 PM

In Brawl, when you hit Giga Bowser, he flinches for a split second. He's pretty much immobile if you get him with a Smart Bomb or Meowth's Payday. Especially Payday.

EDIT: oh wait it says it right there :|

Dark Seraphim · 12-31-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LuigiWoman

EDIT: oh wait it says it right there :|

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-(Near) Immunity to flinch or throw

Yep, I checked my sources a little more this time!

Metal Mario · 12-31-2009, 05:55 PM

I'd say Star Rod Bowser. He's absolutely invincible to the point that nothing can pierce his defenses save for the combined power of all seven Star Spirits. And he even overcomes that so that the Star Spirits have to upgrade to the Peach Beam. Before Mario gathered the Star Spirits, Bowser beat him with, like, two attacks.

Compared to that, Giga Bowser accidentally falling off the edge of Pokemon Stadium seems kind of pathetic.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 12-31-2009, 06:07 PM

Giga Bowser ftw.

***Booyakasha*** · 12-31-2009, 06:13 PM

Bowser Supreme is Bowser with everything on it. Takeout stand down the street makes 'em real good.

Dark Seraphim · 12-31-2009, 06:15 PM

Giant Bowser personally I think has a major advantage, I guess it comes down to if Giant Bowser attacked (or stepped on) Star Rod Bowser, would that be enough to destroy his shield? Giant Bowser packed quite a lot of power, and was as big as his own castle (like a Godzilla monster).

Dry Bowser, however not as powerful as the others, is pretty resiliant, I wonder if Giant Bowser even stepped on the little skull and bones Bowser would he just break apart and bring himself back together again?

Antisocial · 12-31-2009, 07:48 PM

I'd say Bowser just as himself is powerful enough as it is, due to his unflinching determination and perpetual hold on his dignity, despite the fact he gets his ass handed to him every time.

Spoiler Below

I mean, in Inside Story, he takes down the Dark Star, a powerful embodiment of the purest evil, and just after that, the Mario Bros. wipe the floor with him. And you didn't even have to do anything--the bros. just take him out by themselves like it was nothing.

I think my esteem would take a hard blow with the Mario Bros. after that, but with Bowser? He just dusts himself off to try again another time.

His imperviousness to shame is just outstanding.

**X-3** · 12-31-2009, 08:16 PM

Giant Bowser can be created through adrenaline, if I remember BiS correctly. Seeing as it can fight castles, I suppose I'll have to go with that one.

chibimod3 · 12-31-2009, 10:30 PM

Giga Bowser has no pattern of attack I guess is why I voted for him. And no car.

Dark Seraphim · 12-31-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by X-3

Giant Bowser can be created through adrenaline, if I remember BiS correctly. Seeing as it can fight castles, I suppose I'll have to go with that one.

Adrenaline and he has to be in some sort of mortal danger. (is playing the game right now)

Redshirt · 01-01-2010, 03:12 PM

*ignores pros and cons list*

Dry Bowser for coolness factor.

***the Octopus*** · 01-04-2010, 10:02 AM

Giga Bowser is intimidating, but Giant Bowser is where it's at. I'll mention that Giant Bowser first occurred at the end of SMW2, btw, and that was by Kamek's magic as well, so it's not exactly a new thing.

I REALLY HATE POKEMON! · 01-04-2010, 06:58 PM

^ Wouldn't that technically be Giant Baby Bowser though?

Dizzy · 01-04-2010, 07:09 PM

Giant Giga Dry Bowser.

With a Star Rod.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 01-05-2010, 02:02 AM

^^ If it were Baby Bowser when Mario and Luigi were also babies, you can deduct that it's King Bowser as an infant. Yes? That's certainly what the game implied (if not state outright, I don't remember perfectly).

Dark Seraphim · 01-05-2010, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds

^^ If it were Baby Bowser when Mario and Luigi were also babies, you can deduct that it's King Bowser as an infant. Yes? That's certainly what the game implied (if not state outright, I don't remember perfectly).

Well yes, there was (and I guess still is) a Baby Bowser, who is apparently Bowser's baby form, like Baby Peach, Mario, and Luigi. However, after the introduction of Bowser Jr., Baby Bowser has not really been necessary anymore, and I believe Jr. has pretty much replaced him in most major 'young Bowser' appearances.

Baby Bowser

Bowser Jr.

**Valigarmander** · 01-05-2010, 02:39 AM

Baby Bowser (as seen in Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Story, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time) is Bowser as a child.

Bowser Jr. (as seen in Super Mario Sunshine, New Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Galaxy) is Bowser's son.

Dark Seraphim · 01-05-2010, 02:44 AM

Most times they look nearly, if not exactly, alike. I think that's supposed to be the point though. Personally I've grown to like the Bowser Jr. character, I think he's a good alternative and addition to the Koopalings.

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Star Rod Bowser	4	26.67%
Dry Bowser	2	13.33%
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Giga Bowser	2	13.33%
Other	1	6.67%
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12-31-2009, 04:30 PM	#1
Dark Seraphim Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Posts: 431 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Who is Bowser Supreme? We've seen many Bowser's over the years, Bowser clones in SUper Mario Bros., Bowser striving to be the King of the Universe in Galaxy, even Bowser as a good guy on occassion. However, with all these forms out there, which ones reigns as "Bowser Supreme"? Who is the msot powerful, the most resiliant, the most cunning and improved from the original? I have picked 4 of Bowser's most powerful forms Star Rod Bowser INFO: This form of Bowser was introduced in the first Paper Mario, having stolen a rare and power artifact, the Star Rod, Bowser has quickly learned to use its immense power to grant his own wishes. PRO -Shield can makes Bowser nigh invulnerable. -Magically enhanced power -Access to magic and presdigitation (such as transforming Peach's Castle into a flying fortress) CON -Invulnerability Shield can be de-powered -All power comes from the Star Rod, if its removed, Bowser loses its benefits Dry Bowser INFO: Featured first in NSMB, Dry Bowser is in actuality the Drybones version of Bowser, having lost his skin and body to a pool of lava. PRO -Drybones-invulnerability, can be knocked apart but assumingly could pull himself together like a normal Drybones -Immunity to fire and lava since all his fire-weak parts burned away already -Able to throw his own bones as projectiles CON -Not really any stronger than regular Bowser -As a Drybones, he can be knocked apart Giant Bowser INFO: Giant Bowser is Bowser's form in (obviously) giant size. He has had this form forced through Magic by Kamek in SMBW, however as seen in SM:BIS Bowser is capable of enacting this change 'naturally' (with an adrenaline overload). PRO -HUGE SIZE (largest of the 4) -Attacks are all at multiple times power -Immense defense boost due to size -Immune to lava CON -Can be difficult to hit smaller targets -Size is temporary, whether magic or glandular, it wears off -Although stronger defense, is not immune to damage, and can still be pushed back with a strong enough strike. Giga Bowser INFO: Intorduced in Super Smash Bros. Melee, Giga Bowser is one of the ultimate enemies in the game, and becomes Bowser's ultimate attack in its sequal, SSB:Brawl. Seems to require a large swell of energy to enter this form, such as a Smash Ball, and boasts quite a frightening visage as well as many improvements to the original Bowser. PRO -Increased power, both physical and special attacks are all stronger -Attacks now have additional elemental powers -(Near) Immunity to flinch or throw -Larger size and weight CON -New ruthless form may have inhibited thinking process -Form is 'very' temporary, only lasting a short time -Although attacks are stronger, due to larger size some attack will pass over smaller targets

12-31-2009, 04:37 PM	#2
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,222 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,553 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	Giant Bowser came right the hell out of nowhere. And was freaking awesome. __________________

12-31-2009, 05:03 PM	#3
Luigiman7 ~)´◡｀(~ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: representin da bronx yo Gender: Posts: 17,304 Thanks: 1,099 Thanked 992 Times in 698 Posts Blog Entries: 8	In Brawl, when you hit Giga Bowser, he flinches for a split second. He's pretty much immobile if you get him with a Smart Bomb or Meowth's Payday. Especially Payday. EDIT: oh wait it says it right there :\| __________________ ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ＷＯＮ’Ｔ　ＹＯＵ　ＢＥＣＯＭＥ　Ａ　ＭＡＧＩＣＡＬ　ＧＩＲＬ？

12-31-2009, 07:48 PM	#9
Antisocial Janitor Join Date: May 2000 Gender: Posts: 11,178 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1,102 Times in 458 Posts	In short, Bowser's a loser. I'd say Bowser just as himself is powerful enough as it is, due to his unflinching determination and perpetual hold on his dignity, despite the fact he gets his ass handed to him every time. Spoiler Below I mean, in Inside Story, he takes down the Dark Star, a powerful embodiment of the purest evil, and just after that, the Mario Bros. wipe the floor with him. And you didn't even have to do anything--the bros. just take him out by themselves like it was nothing. I think my esteem would take a hard blow with the Mario Bros. after that, but with Bowser? He just dusts himself off to try again another time. His imperviousness to shame is just outstanding.

12-31-2009, 05:55 PM	#5
Metal Mario Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Gender: Posts: 16,435 Thanks: 72 Thanked 190 Times in 127 Posts	I'd say Star Rod Bowser. He's absolutely invincible to the point that nothing can pierce his defenses save for the combined power of all seven Star Spirits. And he even overcomes that so that the Star Spirits have to upgrade to the Peach Beam. Before Mario gathered the Star Spirits, Bowser beat him with, like, two attacks. Compared to that, Giga Bowser accidentally falling off the edge of Pokemon Stadium seems kind of pathetic.

12-31-2009, 06:07 PM	#6
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Giga Bowser ftw.

12-31-2009, 06:13 PM	#7
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,655 Thanks: 153 Thanked 1,386 Times in 704 Posts	Bowser Supreme is Bowser with everything on it. Takeout stand down the street makes 'em real good.

12-31-2009, 06:15 PM	#8
Dark Seraphim Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Posts: 431 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Giant Bowser personally I think has a major advantage, I guess it comes down to if Giant Bowser attacked (or stepped on) Star Rod Bowser, would that be enough to destroy his shield? Giant Bowser packed quite a lot of power, and was as big as his own castle (like a Godzilla monster). Dry Bowser, however not as powerful as the others, is pretty resiliant, I wonder if Giant Bowser even stepped on the little skull and bones Bowser would he just break apart and bring himself back together again?

12-31-2009, 08:16 PM	#10
X-3 No avatar, no justice, no dreams, no hope! Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,507 Thanks: 732 Thanked 1,158 Times in 751 Posts Blog Entries: 10	Giant Bowser can be created through adrenaline, if I remember BiS correctly. Seeing as it can fight castles, I suppose I'll have to go with that one.

12-31-2009, 10:30 PM	#11
chibimod3 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The bottom of a Dr. Pepper bottle Gender: Posts: 497 Thanks: 52 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts	Giga Bowser has no pattern of attack I guess is why I voted for him. And no car.

01-01-2010, 03:12 PM	#13
Redshirt Wiggidy Wack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: A place with things Gender: Posts: 16,607 Thanks: 683 Thanked 998 Times in 690 Posts Blog Entries: 50	ignores pros and cons list Dry Bowser for coolness factor.

01-04-2010, 10:02 AM	#14
*the Octopus* THE PRESIDENT OF FUN Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 27,481 Thanks: 1,974 Thanked 5,121 Times in 2,320 Posts	Giga Bowser is intimidating, but Giant Bowser is where it's at. I'll mention that Giant Bowser first occurred at the end of SMW2, btw, and that was by Kamek's magic as well, so it's not exactly a new thing.

01-04-2010, 06:58 PM	#15
I REALLY HATE POKEMON! Goku lives on the Sun Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: California, U.S.A Gender: Posts: 12,543 Thanks: 1,247 Thanked 263 Times in 222 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^ Wouldn't that technically be Giant Baby Bowser though?

01-04-2010, 07:09 PM	#16
Dizzy A Real Sonic Hero Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Posts: 18,215 Thanks: 1,670 Thanked 1,077 Times in 750 Posts Blog Entries: 111	Giant Giga Dry Bowser. With a Star Rod.

01-05-2010, 02:02 AM	#17
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,199 Thanks: 1,510 Thanked 1,719 Times in 993 Posts	^^ If it were Baby Bowser when Mario and Luigi were also babies, you can deduct that it's King Bowser as an infant. Yes? That's certainly what the game implied (if not state outright, I don't remember perfectly).

01-05-2010, 02:39 AM	#19
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,222 Thanks: 1,611 Thanked 5,553 Times in 2,499 Posts Blog Entries: 18	Baby Bowser (as seen in Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Story, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time) is Bowser as a child. Bowser Jr. (as seen in Super Mario Sunshine, New Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Galaxy) is Bowser's son. __________________

01-05-2010, 02:44 AM	#20
Dark Seraphim Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Gender: Posts: 431 Thanks: 4 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Most times they look nearly, if not exactly, alike. I think that's supposed to be the point though. Personally I've grown to like the Bowser Jr. character, I think he's a good alternative and addition to the Koopalings.