The Complete Mario Compendium - Page 2

Metal Mario · 04-05-2010, 05:16 PM

That's true, but they're even referred to as guest stars in that narrative. Both the instruction booklet and official players' guide describe Banjo and Conker as "taking time out from their own adventures to help Diddy free Timber's Island", or something suitably expositional like that.

***Booyakasha*** · 04-05-2010, 10:36 PM

What does 'guest star' even mean in a game that's never had any sequels anywhere ever?

Metal Mario · 04-06-2010, 06:29 AM

A guest star is a character who's been carried over from a pre-existing, already established franchise. Diddy Kong Racing was technically the first game to be released that featured Banjo and Conker, but, as I pointed out, Banjo and Conker's own franchises were already deep in development and highly anticipated at the time. People knew where the characters really came from. (I remember the hype. "Hey, wow, Banjo and Conker are gonna be playable characters. That's pretty cool. I wonder if there's a way to pull Kazooie out of Banjo's backpack.") They were crossing over from their own franchises to make an appearance in a Mario universe game.

***Booyakasha*** · 04-06-2010, 09:07 AM

But it's a standalone game. It's one thing to call Sonic a 'guest star' in SSBB, or Link a guest star in 'Soul Calibur 2', because those serii existed before their presence (and, in SC's case, would continue to exist afterward). Just seems like a real grungy nitpicky technicality.

Metal Mario · 04-06-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Booyakasha

But it's a standalone game.

Not really, because it's linked to the DKC games (and consequently the greater Mario universe) via Diddy Kong, the headlining star. It's Diddy Kong's game, so everything created specifically for DKR falls under his auspices. Banjo and Conker, however, were just crossing over from their own, separate franchises.

EDIT: Oh, and thanks to scoping out a couple of gameplay walkthroughs at Gamefaqs (don't know why I didn't think of that earlier, actually), I've been able to confirm that both Thwomp and Chain Chomp do, in fact, appear in The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures, and I've updated the compendium accordingly.

***CaptHayfever*** · 04-06-2010, 01:18 PM

I get "guest stars" in DKR. I don't get "guest stars" in movies, especially movies with no sequels.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

04-05-2010, 05:16 PM	#21
Metal Mario Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Gender: Posts: 16,435 Thanks: 72 Thanked 190 Times in 127 Posts	That's true, but they're even referred to as guest stars in that narrative. Both the instruction booklet and official players' guide describe Banjo and Conker as "taking time out from their own adventures to help Diddy free Timber's Island", or something suitably expositional like that.

04-05-2010, 10:36 PM	#22
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	What does 'guest star' even mean in a game that's never had any sequels anywhere ever?

04-06-2010, 06:29 AM	#23
Metal Mario Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Gender: Posts: 16,435 Thanks: 72 Thanked 190 Times in 127 Posts	A guest star is a character who's been carried over from a pre-existing, already established franchise. Diddy Kong Racing was technically the first game to be released that featured Banjo and Conker, but, as I pointed out, Banjo and Conker's own franchises were already deep in development and highly anticipated at the time. People knew where the characters really came from. (I remember the hype. "Hey, wow, Banjo and Conker are gonna be playable characters. That's pretty cool. I wonder if there's a way to pull Kazooie out of Banjo's backpack.") They were crossing over from their own franchises to make an appearance in a Mario universe game.

04-06-2010, 09:07 AM	#24
*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	But it's a standalone game. It's one thing to call Sonic a 'guest star' in SSBB, or Link a guest star in 'Soul Calibur 2', because those serii existed before their presence (and, in SC's case, would continue to exist afterward). Just seems like a real grungy nitpicky technicality.

04-06-2010, 01:18 PM	#26
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	I get "guest stars" in DKR. I don't get "guest stars" in movies, especially movies with no sequels. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"