Rate Brawl from 1 to 100 ( YES I GOT BRAWL!!) - Page 2

SephirothKirby · 03-10-2008, 06:26 PM

Actually, 99.7

Because they took away end-of-the-battle bonuses, Target Test is completely useless, and they took away the best mini-game ever- "Race to the Finish."

But, you know, it's still pretty effing amazing.

Redshirt · 03-11-2008, 02:12 PM

98.5
SSE is confusing at first.

Perrin Aybara · 03-11-2008, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SephirothKirby

Because they took away end-of-the-battle bonuses

I'm actually pretty bummed out about that one too. It seems like such a dumb thing to remove. Why remove them? It couldn't have required much extra effort to program them into the game. They were fun. Boo.

-jay

Joker · 03-11-2008, 03:06 PM

It registers 99 by my count for the reason stated twice above

I am nobody · 03-17-2008, 05:46 AM

98.75

It loses points for the lack of a way to see if anyone is online in "Play With Anyone" and for tuning down the Brawl AI dificulty.

It gains points for the stages(Pirate Ship is incredible), having so many characters, including a boss fight mode, for the SSE, for co-op stadium and events, and for coin launcher.

Sparrowphone325 · 03-21-2008, 12:31 AM

Yep just like I said I'll probly change my mind and I'll give Brawl 98/100 .

***CaptHayfever*** · 03-21-2008, 09:49 AM

I've barely gotten to touch the single-player, but then, it is my roommate's game & I've been busy all week.

In multiplayer though (I'm intentionally pointing out flaws, don't go off on me for it):
CDs vanish wayyyyyyyyyyy too quickly.
Also sometimes I've found myself underneath the stage before even knowing I've been hit; somethings gotta be up with that.
A few of the items (motion sensor bomb, screw attack, Franklin badge, & certain foods) are too small to determine what they are until you have them.
I can't quite figure out Lucario's timing. Same with Ike.
Several stages are way too small for 4-player, but keep coming up in the random selection.
CDs vanish WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too quickly.

Sonic & R.O.B. are awesome. The Drug Trip just makes Luigi even better.
I'm trying to figure out Trainer and Olimar, but I think I'll need a chance to use training mode for that.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

SephirothKirby · 03-21-2008, 09:59 AM

Olimar is fail.

The Missing Link · 03-21-2008, 11:33 AM

Unless you people are throwing in all those numbers past the decimal point as a joke, how can the game bloody score an 98.75? Are you such videogame connoisseurs that you can discern the quality of a game to that detail? Pish posh on the lot of your scores. You're all arbitrarily making wild turkey-shoot guesses on the quality of this game, and I'm calling shenanigans.

The game is at least an A game on the scale of A+ to F. Or, on another scale, the game scores at least $50 on how much one should pay for this game to get their value out of it. It's a game no one should be without, and I don't see why we shouldn't just flat out say so without making up a number.

I am nobody · 03-21-2008, 11:37 AM

^Because the AI being tuned down is not bad enough to justify removing a whole point. So I removed .25 points.

The Missing Link · 03-21-2008, 06:09 PM

^ And that's what I'm talking about.

There is no magic formula that states a game rating is five parts graphics, seven parts AI, four parts control schema, eight and a half parts learning curve with equal parts replayability, and a dash of paprika. To say that the "AI component" of an "out-of-X score" equals "N points" is rather silly to begin with because I'll bet you can't actually determine how big a factor a single point in your scoring schema is.

Once you define what precise value a single point actually has, then you can start going and saying that such-and-such feature isn't worth a full percent.

And don't get me wrong; I'm not just criticising your score independent of the others. But people putting decimal points after 98s and 99s as if rounding away that little bit of the score actually means something is rather laughable.

**X-3** · 03-21-2008, 09:41 PM

WARNING! SHORT LAME REVIEW APPROACHING!

Roster and stages are amazing, though some of the alt. costumes are a bit disappointing(Seriously, Roy should have been an alt. costume or something). The alt. costume thing is just a nitpick, and I find myself enjoying the characters in this game more than I did Melee's.

Classic and the single-player modes are still cool, especially with a new focus on Co-op. While the SSE is an improvement over the previous Adventure mode, I can't help but feel a bit disappointed by it's plain story, which makes little sense unless you read some trophies.

The Multiplayer Brawl mode is the meat of the game, and it is chock-full of playing modes. You want to have a metal stamina match with flowers? Go ahead.

The Wi-Fi mode also makes it so that you'll never get bored of playing, as you can play with you friends, and you can play with some random loser. The only problems of Wi-Fi I find are the forced time matches for random matches, and lag.

A new addition is the stage builder, which obviously allows you to build your own stage. This is easily one of the greatest features of the game, allowing you to pretty much build any stage you want. You can make a death trap, or recreate an old stage from a previous game.

The selection of Music is AWESOME. Over 300 tracks are present, and the My Music option allows you to place these songs in certain stages, giving more freedom than Melee did.

The graphics are impressive: while the fighters are detailed as hell, you'll notice that several ATs and Pokeballs are less detailed. Still, the graphics are nice, and some of the Wii's best.

Brawl improves the SSB formula, adding more freedom, while bolstering the roster and stages. I give Brawl an A. Or, 97. Whatever.

...jeez, that was a tedious review. :\

03-10-2008, 06:26 PM	#21
SephirothKirby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it. Gender: Posts: 7,213 Thanks: 373 Thanked 760 Times in 447 Posts	Actually, 99.7 Because they took away end-of-the-battle bonuses, Target Test is completely useless, and they took away the best mini-game ever- "Race to the Finish." But, you know, it's still pretty effing amazing.

03-11-2008, 02:12 PM	#22
Redshirt Wiggidy Wack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: A place with things Gender: Posts: 16,698 Thanks: 703 Thanked 1,006 Times in 695 Posts Blog Entries: 50	98.5 SSE is confusing at first.

03-11-2008, 03:06 PM	#24
Joker Lord of Vampires / God of Vengeance Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: The Planet of Eternal Darkness Gender: Posts: 11,117 Thanks: 3,273 Thanked 580 Times in 364 Posts Blog Entries: 6	It registers 99 by my count for the reason stated twice above

03-17-2008, 05:46 AM	#25
I am nobody Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Over there. Gender: Posts: 5,515 Thanks: 309 Thanked 365 Times in 242 Posts Blog Entries: 7	98.75 It loses points for the lack of a way to see if anyone is online in "Play With Anyone" and for tuning down the Brawl AI dificulty. It gains points for the stages(Pirate Ship is incredible), having so many characters, including a boss fight mode, for the SSE, for co-op stadium and events, and for coin launcher.

03-21-2008, 12:31 AM	#26
Sparrowphone325 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Gender: Posts: 65 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Yep just like I said I'll probly change my mind and I'll give Brawl 98/100 .

03-21-2008, 09:49 AM	#27
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,659 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	I've barely gotten to touch the single-player, but then, it is my roommate's game & I've been busy all week. In multiplayer though (I'm intentionally pointing out flaws, don't go off on me for it): CDs vanish wayyyyyyyyyyy too quickly. Also sometimes I've found myself underneath the stage before even knowing I've been hit; somethings gotta be up with that. A few of the items (motion sensor bomb, screw attack, Franklin badge, & certain foods) are too small to determine what they are until you have them. I can't quite figure out Lucario's timing. Same with Ike. Several stages are way too small for 4-player, but keep coming up in the random selection. CDs vanish WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too quickly. Sonic & R.O.B. are awesome. The Drug Trip just makes Luigi even better. I'm trying to figure out Trainer and Olimar, but I think I'll need a chance to use training mode for that. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

03-21-2008, 09:59 AM	#28
SephirothKirby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Those who criticize our generation forget who raised it. Gender: Posts: 7,213 Thanks: 373 Thanked 760 Times in 447 Posts	Olimar is fail.

03-21-2008, 11:33 AM	#29
The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 17,128 Thanks: 405 Thanked 606 Times in 368 Posts	Unless you people are throwing in all those numbers past the decimal point as a joke, how can the game bloody score an 98.75? Are you such videogame connoisseurs that you can discern the quality of a game to that detail? Pish posh on the lot of your scores. You're all arbitrarily making wild turkey-shoot guesses on the quality of this game, and I'm calling shenanigans. The game is at least an A game on the scale of A+ to F. Or, on another scale, the game scores at least $50 on how much one should pay for this game to get their value out of it. It's a game no one should be without, and I don't see why we shouldn't just flat out say so without making up a number.

03-21-2008, 11:37 AM	#30
I am nobody Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Over there. Gender: Posts: 5,515 Thanks: 309 Thanked 365 Times in 242 Posts Blog Entries: 7	^Because the AI being tuned down is not bad enough to justify removing a whole point. So I removed .25 points.

03-21-2008, 06:09 PM	#31
The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 17,128 Thanks: 405 Thanked 606 Times in 368 Posts	^ And that's what I'm talking about. There is no magic formula that states a game rating is five parts graphics, seven parts AI, four parts control schema, eight and a half parts learning curve with equal parts replayability, and a dash of paprika. To say that the "AI component" of an "out-of-X score" equals "N points" is rather silly to begin with because I'll bet you can't actually determine how big a factor a single point in your scoring schema is. Once you define what precise value a single point actually has, then you can start going and saying that such-and-such feature isn't worth a full percent. And don't get me wrong; I'm not just criticising your score independent of the others. But people putting decimal points after 98s and 99s as if rounding away that little bit of the score actually means something is rather laughable.

03-21-2008, 09:41 PM	#32
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,943 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	WARNING! SHORT LAME REVIEW APPROACHING! Roster and stages are amazing, though some of the alt. costumes are a bit disappointing(Seriously, Roy should have been an alt. costume or something). The alt. costume thing is just a nitpick, and I find myself enjoying the characters in this game more than I did Melee's. Classic and the single-player modes are still cool, especially with a new focus on Co-op. While the SSE is an improvement over the previous Adventure mode, I can't help but feel a bit disappointed by it's plain story, which makes little sense unless you read some trophies. The Multiplayer Brawl mode is the meat of the game, and it is chock-full of playing modes. You want to have a metal stamina match with flowers? Go ahead. The Wi-Fi mode also makes it so that you'll never get bored of playing, as you can play with you friends, and you can play with some random loser. The only problems of Wi-Fi I find are the forced time matches for random matches, and lag. A new addition is the stage builder, which obviously allows you to build your own stage. This is easily one of the greatest features of the game, allowing you to pretty much build any stage you want. You can make a death trap, or recreate an old stage from a previous game. The selection of Music is AWESOME. Over 300 tracks are present, and the My Music option allows you to place these songs in certain stages, giving more freedom than Melee did. The graphics are impressive: while the fighters are detailed as hell, you'll notice that several ATs and Pokeballs are less detailed. Still, the graphics are nice, and some of the Wii's best. Brawl improves the SSB formula, adding more freedom, while bolstering the roster and stages. I give Brawl an A. Or, 97. Whatever. ...jeez, that was a tedious review. :\