Water

***CaptHayfever*** · 09-17-2011, 03:44 AM

So I had this idea.

Fish gotta swim, & apparently so do SSB characters, at least as of Brawl. So, now that we have a swimming mechanic in a fighting game, do you think it could be developed further & used more?

I have this mental image of an Mario-themed stage looking like SMB level 2-2, with Blooper & Cheep-Cheep hazards. Ooh, or even make it work sort of like Castle Siege, changing between the 2-2 underwater & the 2-3 bridge (yes, with those gorram flying Cheeps!).

Also, in Brawl, everyone has the same swimming ability. Infinite-lung Mario, space-suit Olimar, tiny-swim-meter Toon Link, & air-bubble-breathing Sonic can all tread for the same length of time before drowning. That could be changed, though; each character could have swimming skill become one of their statistics, like weight & speed already are. Squirtle & Charizard make pretty obvious extreme ends of that scale.

What say ye all?

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Valigarmander** · 09-17-2011, 08:55 AM

It took me a while here to remember that Brawl actually had swimming, though I don't think any of it was underwater. If it did, I would imagine it would introduce a whole new dimension to the combat.

An idea that popped into my head was perhaps instead of swimming, having fighters sink to the bottom and walk around, jump and attack as if they were on dry land, with water only acting as a medium that slows movement slightly. Maybe there could be a Gravity Suit pickup (like the Franklin Badge or Screw Attack) that lets you move around underwater without being slowed down.

***CaptHayfever*** · 09-17-2011, 11:20 AM

Yeah, that's actually why I went with SMB1 (where you could walk the floor in water stages) instead of NSMB (where you can't).

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

***Cosmonautical*** · 09-17-2011, 11:30 AM

Personally, I really dig the Mega Man super jumping water. That would be pretty awesome.

Antisocial · 09-17-2011, 12:42 PM

I would imagine it'd go something like this:

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***Marilink*** · 09-17-2011, 01:55 PM

I'm with AI, I always have loved the mega-jumping Mega Man water style. I think that'd be great. I'm not a huge fan of being slowed down by water levels.

Maximum Spider · 09-17-2011, 05:28 PM

I just had this vision.

Say Megaman in in the next Smash Bros game.

A Megaman themed level is Bubble Man's stage, which works somewhat like the Mushroomy Kingdom, scrolling left to right, with the occasional robot hazzard, as well as spikes on the ceiling that damage you, except in a few places where you can knock your opponent off the top. super high jumping included.

**X-3** · 09-17-2011, 05:54 PM

What about a Super Mario Galaxy stage? You could have giant water globes floating around. It'd be neat.

***CaptHayfever*** · 09-17-2011, 06:55 PM

Very good point with the super jumping. Water does slow people down, but it also allows for bigger jumping. (Or I might be completely off the mark with what you meant.)

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Chaos Deviot · 09-17-2011, 07:59 PM

This would be cool during Adventure Mode.

Although fighting might be interesting, as if it was in Slow Mo Mode. As Val pointed out.

09-17-2011, 03:44 AM	#1
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Water So I had this idea. Fish gotta swim, & apparently so do SSB characters, at least as of Brawl. So, now that we have a swimming mechanic in a fighting game, do you think it could be developed further & used more? I have this mental image of an Mario-themed stage looking like SMB level 2-2, with Blooper & Cheep-Cheep hazards. Ooh, or even make it work sort of like Castle Siege, changing between the 2-2 underwater & the 2-3 bridge (yes, with those gorram flying Cheeps!). Also, in Brawl, everyone has the same swimming ability. Infinite-lung Mario, space-suit Olimar, tiny-swim-meter Toon Link, & air-bubble-breathing Sonic can all tread for the same length of time before drowning. That could be changed, though; each character could have swimming skill become one of their statistics, like weight & speed already are. Squirtle & Charizard make pretty obvious extreme ends of that scale. What say ye all? And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

09-17-2011, 08:55 AM	#2
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	It took me a while here to remember that Brawl actually had swimming, though I don't think any of it was underwater. If it did, I would imagine it would introduce a whole new dimension to the combat. An idea that popped into my head was perhaps instead of swimming, having fighters sink to the bottom and walk around, jump and attack as if they were on dry land, with water only acting as a medium that slows movement slightly. Maybe there could be a Gravity Suit pickup (like the Franklin Badge or Screw Attack) that lets you move around underwater without being slowed down.

09-17-2011, 11:20 AM	#3
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Yeah, that's actually why I went with SMB1 (where you could walk the floor in water stages) instead of NSMB (where you can't). And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

09-17-2011, 11:30 AM	#4
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Personally, I really dig the Mega Man super jumping water. That would be pretty awesome.

09-17-2011, 01:55 PM	#6
*Marilink* Gotta catch 'em all! Supermod! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 29,118 Thanks: 2,536 Thanked 1,823 Times in 1,008 Posts	I'm with AI, I always have loved the mega-jumping Mega Man water style. I think that'd be great. I'm not a huge fan of being slowed down by water levels.

09-17-2011, 05:28 PM	#7
Maximum Spider Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: I'll take Street Fighter over Dragonball any day. Gender: Posts: 2,549 Thanks: 0 Thanked 192 Times in 127 Posts	I just had this vision. Say Megaman in in the next Smash Bros game. A Megaman themed level is Bubble Man's stage, which works somewhat like the Mushroomy Kingdom, scrolling left to right, with the occasional robot hazzard, as well as spikes on the ceiling that damage you, except in a few places where you can knock your opponent off the top. super high jumping included.

09-17-2011, 05:54 PM	#8
X-3 Useful as an Owl Join Date: Jan 2004 Gender: Posts: 15,947 Thanks: 753 Thanked 1,213 Times in 790 Posts Blog Entries: 10	What about a Super Mario Galaxy stage? You could have giant water globes floating around. It'd be neat.

09-17-2011, 06:55 PM	#9
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Very good point with the super jumping. Water does slow people down, but it also allows for bigger jumping. (Or I might be completely off the mark with what you meant.) And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

09-17-2011, 07:59 PM	#10
Chaos Deviot The Betrayer Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mt. Moon Gender: Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 171 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts Blog Entries: 1	This would be cool during Adventure Mode. Although fighting might be interesting, as if it was in Slow Mo Mode. As Val pointed out.