FANFICTION.

Maynard James Keenan · 08-11-2007, 11:14 PM

I'd rant about this in my topic about random things in the venting forum, but this deserves its own damn topic.

Fanfiction can be good, don't get me wrong. But over 75% of fanfiction is absolutely HORRIBLE.

1. Love stories: Love stories can be good, but ONLY if it has to do with the ****ing thing it's based off. If the two characters you're making the story about hate each other's guts, they're probably NOT going to hook up any time soon, if at all. Megatron and Optimus Prime aren't going to have sex any time soon. Neither are Neville Longbottom and Bellatrix Lestrange. I also hate that if the mortal enemies are the pairing, they'll suddenly switch from fighting to having sex. "I am going to kill you for what you've done to innocent people!" *five minutes later* "I just realized how beautiful you are. Let's have sex!" I'm pretty sure that that never happens. EVER.

2. Putting a bunch of characters into something that already exists. Seriously, today I read a fanfiction called "SSB Jeopardy." It was almost WORD FOR WORD with a Celebrity Jeopardy skit. The only difference was names. Please, if you're going to make a story, make it original!

3. NARUTO MOTHER****ING STORIES: It's amazing how many of these things exist. I'd put this in the first spot, but they fail so much, I'm putting them in here. SASUKExNARUTO. WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU? What are they, fourteen? And there are millions (not an exaggeration) of stories involving them having sex. WHAT THE ****? What kind of sick mind do you have that you make tons of stories involving sex between fourteen year old boys? That's ****ing horrible!

4. Pairings that don't make sense: Again, I'd put this in the first spot, but this is also too much failure for that spot. I've seen LinkxYoung Link stories. NOT ONLY is it a story about an adult having sex with a small child, it's a story about an adult having sex with a small child who also happens to be himself from a previous time. Can you say "time paradox?" If you're making this story, you have less of a brain than the SasukexNaruto makers.

I probably have more rants, but I'm to tired to think of them.

**Crazyswordsman** · 08-11-2007, 11:18 PM

How about comedy and parody fanfics? Those are basically the only kind I write. -CSM

Maynard James Keenan · 08-11-2007, 11:19 PM

Comedy and Parody is fine, as long as it's not word for word of somebody else's work with names switched.

Edit: Ah, I remember one I was going to talk about. I'll get to that soon.

***ZeldaGirl*** · 08-11-2007, 11:43 PM

I think the main problem is bad writing in general. Because a good writer can pull most stuff off - it's the bad one's who have the lame plots, horrible structure/grammar, nonsensical pairings, etc. Granted, 75% of all fanfiction is written by 14 year-olds just fresh in high school, so naturally they lack knowledge of decent writing.

Auron · 08-11-2007, 11:59 PM

If I knew how to write good stories (the actual writing, not the ideas), I bet I could come up with some kickass fanfics that are both logical and nonperverse. I'm wicked good at coming up with ideas, characters, and side-stories that fit almost perfectly with the intial story, I just can't write worth ****. Therefore I have never written a story, nor do I plan to, so I have just contirbuted absolutely nothing to the thread at all accept for the fact that you will never be complaining about me.

***CaptHayfever*** · 08-12-2007, 02:03 AM

A lot of the fanfic premises are absolutely idiotic (Neville & Bellatrix? They've seen each other, what, once?), but a lot does hinge on writer's ability.
I once read an Animorphs/Pokémon cross; quite frankly, it was once of the coolest ideas I'd ever heard.* But the kid who did it was awful; the actual plot was nonexistent, neither side of the crossover was done justice, and the entire structure was clearly ripped off of a Megamorphs book.

And remember, "I'm-a Aximili, numb-ber-rrrr w-wonn!"

*(Seriously, think about Rachel as an Ursaring. All the good-ol' grizzly stuff, plus a frikin' laser shooting out of her mouth!)

Jenocide · 08-12-2007, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Panfan el Pwno

over 75% of fanfiction is absolutely HORRIBLE.

I'm with you all the way. I can't seem to find ANY good fanfiction lately. I used to read quite a bit of fanfiction, but I can't seem to find any fanfiction that's worth my time anywhere.

It's hard to find fanfiction with 'pairings' I like or fanfiction that isn't just about two characters getting together. I feel like a lot of the fanfiction out there is pretty much the same thing over and over again with the names changed and the situations slightly different.

Maybe my tastes have changed. Maybe all the old (good) writers quit and moved on in life. All I know is that many writers out there should READ their work and THINK about it before they put it out.

t3hDarkness · 08-12-2007, 06:33 AM

Romance type slash fanfiction sucks, but the parodies I find are usually awesome.
Ben Franklin for example.
Image not allowed, then how about
Colonel Sanders!

Sim Kid · 08-12-2007, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

How about comedy and parody fanfics? Those are basically the only kind I write. -CSM

I've actually done that a few times. I called them "The Demented Ranma Fanfic" and "The Demented Ranma/Inuyasha crossover". A lot of inspiration was taken from "The Demented Cartoon movie", because the Zeeky H Bomb even makes an appearance. ;p

I used to be part of a fanfic site...I've deleted a lot of my stories because, they were just bad writing and awkward dialogue (Though sometimes I did it to make fun of bad translations). I got chased out by Fanboys and fangirls who thought I was horrible, would only give me Destructive Criticism, and wanted me to add sex and yaoi pairings. (The next time I see Luke x Asch I swear I'm going to...)

Get a new Kirby today! · 08-12-2007, 12:51 PM

This thread = WIN.

Chunky Kong12345 · 08-12-2007, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptHayfever

A lot of the fanfic premises are absolutely idiotic (Neville & Bellatrix? They've seen each other, what, once?)

There's also the fact that she tortured his parents to insanity, but, you know.

**Crazyswordsman** · 08-12-2007, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sim Kid

I've actually done that a few times. I called them "The Demented Ranma Fanfic" and "The Demented Ranma/Inuyasha crossover". A lot of inspiration was taken from "The Demented Cartoon movie", because the Zeeky H Bomb even makes an appearance. ;p

Crossovers suck. Parodies of Broadway musicals starring video game characters FTW. -CSM

Sim Kid · 08-12-2007, 04:01 PM

That's why they're demented CSM.

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 08-13-2007, 08:00 AM

......lemon

I just summoned Valigarmander!

Sarai and Samiel · 08-13-2007, 12:18 PM

Some of my old stuff is still lingering around Fanfiction.net, too- same name, Selene Starblade. A few Ranma fics, a MMX fic, and a few bits of junk an' garbage. Fairly old, though- once I started getting into MMO's and BBS's and all those other wonderful acronyms that stand for interactive imaginary activity, rather than solo imaginary activity, I really just ran out of will to do stuff all lonely-like.

Yeah, it's more fun with other people...... usually.

Also, Colonel Sanders rules. Secret recipie for whoop ass! Hehehe.

***Ace Mercury*** · 08-13-2007, 01:19 PM

Fanfics are easy to write because there's no character development necessary. Bonus if you're writing a slash-fic, because the people who read those don't, like, read books anyways, so they can't tell it's garbage.

What I kind of hate is how people use dialogue format instead of paragraph format. Just, like, pages of

Quote:

char1: blah blah blah
char2: blah blah blah
char1: blah blah blah blah
char3: blah blah blah!!!!!

which kind of conjures up an image of three people standing around a white room, eyes dead, mouths perpetually open, with a slight trickle of drool on each.

***ZeldaGirl*** · 08-13-2007, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Fanfics are easy to write because there's no character development necessary.

I could say opposite that that (good) fanfics are harder to write because it requires you to have a full understanding of said characters and you must write them so that they stay in character. Often times, authors forget to do this.

Sarai and Samiel · 08-13-2007, 01:53 PM

Indeed, poorly-written script format makes people look like me when I get more than eight hours of sleep a night.

***CaptHayfever*** · 08-14-2007, 01:37 AM

See, when I write in script format, I actually write in proper script format; that is, I include the stage directions so people can tell what the heck is going on.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Prince Phaeral · 08-14-2007, 03:24 PM

LOL! OMG TIHS IS TEH KAWAIIEST FICCIE EVER! ^_________^ LINKXMINDA 4EVER! UPDATE SOON SILLY KAWAII BAKA NEKO-CHAN DESU! >O< U FLAMERS R TEH SUCK GTFO THIS FICZORS KAWAIILINKUFANGRL IS TEH BESTEST AUFFOR EVER!111 >O<;;;;

Let's not forget that 99% of reviewers are just as stupid as the authors that make this trash.

08-11-2007, 11:14 PM	#1
Maynard James Keenan Cooler than you and you **ing know it. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere, being **ing awesome. Gender: Posts: 12,537 Thanks: 690 Thanked 1,144 Times in 770 Posts Blog Entries: 15 Points: 4,231.56 Bank: 36,453.89 Total Points: 40,685.45 Donate	FANFICTION. I'd rant about this in my topic about random things in the venting forum, but this deserves its own damn topic. Fanfiction can be good, don't get me wrong. But over 75% of fanfiction is absolutely HORRIBLE. 1. Love stories: Love stories can be good, but ONLY if it has to do with the ***ing thing it's based off. If the two characters you're making the story about hate each other's guts, they're probably NOT going to hook up any time soon, if at all. Megatron and Optimus Prime aren't going to have sex any time soon. Neither are Neville Longbottom and Bellatrix Lestrange. I also hate that if the mortal enemies are the pairing, they'll suddenly switch from fighting to having sex. "I am going to kill you for what you've done to innocent people!" five minutes later* "I just realized how beautiful you are. Let's have sex!" I'm pretty sure that that never happens. EVER. 2. Putting a bunch of characters into something that already exists. Seriously, today I read a fanfiction called "SSB Jeopardy." It was almost WORD FOR WORD with a Celebrity Jeopardy skit. The only difference was names. Please, if you're going to make a story, make it original! 3. NARUTO MOTHER**ING STORIES: It's amazing how many of these things exist. I'd put this in the first spot, but they fail so much, I'm putting them in here. SASUKExNARUTO. WHAT THE IS WRONG WITH YOU? What are they, fourteen? And there are millions (not an exaggeration) of stories involving them having sex. WHAT THE ? What kind of sick mind do you have that you make tons of stories involving sex between fourteen year old boys? That's **ing horrible! 4. Pairings that don't make sense: Again, I'd put this in the first spot, but this is also too much failure for that spot. I've seen LinkxYoung Link stories. NOT ONLY is it a story about an adult having sex with a small child, it's a story about an adult having sex with a small child who also happens to be himself from a previous time. Can you say "time paradox?" If you're making this story, you have less of a brain than the SasukexNaruto makers. I probably have more rants, but I'm to tired to think of them.

08-13-2007, 12:18 PM	#15
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08-13-2007, 01:53 PM	#18
Sarai and Samiel Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Aisle 12, between the kumquats and the radicchio. Gender: Posts: 2,297 Thanks: 164 Thanked 128 Times in 88 Posts Points: 651.37 Bank: 117,547.21 Total Points: 118,198.58 Donate	Quite. Indeed, poorly-written script format makes people look like me when I get more than eight hours of sleep a night.

08-11-2007, 11:18 PM	#2
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08-11-2007, 11:19 PM	#3
Maynard James Keenan Cooler than you and you **ing know it. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere, being **ing awesome. Gender: Posts: 12,537 Thanks: 690 Thanked 1,144 Times in 770 Posts Blog Entries: 15 Points: 4,231.56 Bank: 36,453.89 Total Points: 40,685.45 Donate	Comedy and Parody is fine, as long as it's not word for word of somebody else's work with names switched. Edit: Ah, I remember one I was going to talk about. I'll get to that soon.

08-11-2007, 11:43 PM	#4
*ZeldaGirl* Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 12,595 Thanks: 573 Thanked 962 Times in 648 Posts Points: 39,855.95 Bank: 927,566.32 Total Points: 967,422.27 Donate	I think the main problem is bad writing in general. Because a good writer can pull most stuff off - it's the bad one's who have the lame plots, horrible structure/grammar, nonsensical pairings, etc. Granted, 75% of all fanfiction is written by 14 year-olds just fresh in high school, so naturally they lack knowledge of decent writing.

08-11-2007, 11:59 PM	#5
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08-12-2007, 02:03 AM	#6
*CaptHayfever* Smash Supermod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 20,035 Thanks: 318 Thanked 1,018 Times in 616 Posts Points: 123,678.70 Bank: 2,638.67 Total Points: 126,317.36 Donate	A lot of the fanfic premises are absolutely idiotic (Neville & Bellatrix? They've seen each other, what, once?), but a lot does hinge on writer's ability. I once read an Animorphs/Pokémon cross; quite frankly, it was once of the coolest ideas I'd ever heard.* But the kid who did it was awful; the actual plot was nonexistent, neither side of the crossover was done justice, and the entire structure was clearly ripped off of a Megamorphs book. And remember, "I'm-a Aximili, numb-ber-rrrr w-wonn!" *(Seriously, think about Rachel as an Ursaring. All the good-ol' grizzly stuff, plus a frikin' laser shooting out of her mouth!)

08-12-2007, 06:33 AM	#8
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08-12-2007, 12:51 PM	#10
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08-13-2007, 08:00 AM	#14
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08-14-2007, 01:37 AM	#19
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08-14-2007, 03:24 PM	#20
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