"Shipping."

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-30-2008, 10:22 AM

This guy said it best:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diablocon

I ****ing hate "shipping".

First off, the word. What the hell? No one calls it Relationshipping, so why Shipping? Our good friend the dictionary has these meanings for shipping:

1. the act or business of a person or thing that ships.
2. a number of ships, esp. merchant ships, taken as a whole; tonnage.
3. Obsolete. a voyage.

None of which has anything to do with relationships. Plenty to do with ships and packages though, so perhaps Shipping should start to mean something about Pirates who deliver things!

In reality, I believe that the P was supposed to be a T, to descibe what the people who write this stuff are actually doing.

Another thing I hate is combining two names to describe a relationship. God, would it kill these people to use an ampersand? For example, "Balthier & Fran" Was that so hard? "Fralthier" just sounds stupid (note: if someone coined the word Fralthier, kill me).

And of course, I could rant on about how these pairings are stupid.

So I will.

1. No one cares about the actual plot when making these pairings. Great example, that idiot Eileen kept trying to put Vaan and Ashe together. Now, call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure the game says right to your face that Vaan and Penelo are a couple (and Revenant Wings does actually say it I believe), while Ashe and Basch obviously have feelings too for each other.
2. No ones cares about a character's sexual orientation. I **** you not, on that Wiki CSM linked us to, they had a term to describe a pairing of Cid and Vincent. Now, I'm pretty sure they're both heterosexuals, since Cid marries Shera eventually, and Vincent had feelings for Lucrecia and then Shelke in DOC.
3. No one pays attention to the plot. Again. This time, I'm talking about people who make pairings that are ****ing obvious. Wakka and Lulu is one I've seen, well after the release of X-2. No ****, you think? What was the clue, that they got married and had a child?
4. Cloud cannot love Aerith, get the hell over it. She's dead, Tifa isn't, so unless Cloud wants to get into trouble with the law for having a few graveyard shifts, it ain't happening.
5. These people only care about the love stories, and complain when there isn't one. FFXII is a prime example. While there are people who just don't like it, I've seen people complain about the lack of any love story. Since when was a love story the main driving force of a fantasy game? And of course, we all remember what happened when the love story was the main driving force of one...
6. EVERYONE just has to be paired with somebody else. God forbid there are single people in the world.

Sorry about that rant, but this just really bothers me. This is what happens when a whole generation grows up wathcing **** like Friends: "OMG! EVERYONE MUST BE PAIRED TOGETHER!!!" There's nothing wrong with writing a story and having a few characters left over who have no one left to be with!

Honk if you agree. -CSM

(beep-beep)

***Ace Mercury*** · 01-30-2008, 10:39 AM

Oh. I thought this would be some sort of rant against eBay/Amazon =\

***CaptHayfever*** · 01-30-2008, 11:00 AM

To quote Skeeter Valentine, "Honk-honk!"

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one, honk-honk!"

**Booyakasha** · 01-30-2008, 11:02 AM

I mostly just think it's silly and a bit fey. Doesn't really provoke that negative a response from me. Not like, for example, hummus. Man, f*ck hummus.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-30-2008, 11:08 AM

^Hey. I just got into hummus, don't get me out of it. -CSM

**Booyakasha** · 01-30-2008, 11:13 AM

^Okay, I won't get you out of it. Especially not by saying horrible things like Spoiler Below

"Mmmm, a tub of what looks like congealed cat vomit. Bet it goes great on a cracker!!"

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-30-2008, 11:23 AM

^Hahaha

Anyway, just because I hate "Shipping" doesn't mean I hate fanfiction. In my view, the following types of fanfiction are okay:
*Anything designed to make someone laugh
*Parody
*Satire
*Something designed to totally rip on something

-CSM

**Booyakasha** · 01-30-2008, 11:29 AM

I don't care for fanfiction. That's one big strike against shipping, there--it inspires fanfiction.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-30-2008, 11:31 AM

^Yeah, but it's the kind of fanfics people take seriously. When I write fanfics, I make them in play-form (ie a script with lines) and I make sure they're intended to make fun of something and not be serious at all. -CSM

**Booyakasha** · 01-30-2008, 11:33 AM

^You're totally ruining my argument with your words and such. Cut it out.

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 01-30-2008, 12:15 PM

Fanfictions are only good if

A. It creates a story with all original Characters in tact on not hitting on who they shouldn't be.

B. Supposed to be funny.

C. Combinations that are POSSIBLE, and by that I mean no DBZ/Inuyasha (Unless it has to do with Rule 2) (Smacks self for breaking this rule)

D. No Friends have....that.....please, just because you think they look girly is no excuse.

Even Tidus doesn't deserve that.

Now, follow these rules. Please *Big, Sad, Soulful Eyes......Drawn on Cardboard.*

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-30-2008, 01:14 PM

Well, Boo, this and this are the kind of things I write. Parody, parody, parody. -CSM

Metal Man · 01-30-2008, 05:50 PM

I like hummus. And sorta like blue cheese. Neither of those look very appetizing.

Shipping doesn't bother me, as long as nobody tries to effect anything I write with it. Nobody has, nobody probably will, and so I let them match trees up with doorknobs all they want.

Generally it's one of those things on my 'avoid' list, which is probably why I don't violently react to it.

**Wyborn** · 01-30-2008, 05:56 PM

Wow, guys.

In a discussion abotu fanfiction I expected razzing about the medium as a whole, but all of a sudden parody is a higher form of it? Nah-ah. Good fanfiction is by its very nature rare, but the best fanfics (from what I remember - haven't read any since about 2001) are not humorous.

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-01-2008, 12:51 AM

^It's really based on the author. Me, for instance, I write parodies featuring characters from games and such, but I don't consider myself a fanfic writer, seeing as I also satirize sports a lot. -CSM

Chop Chop Master Onion · 02-01-2008, 01:03 AM

CSM slowly closed and locked the door behind him, swallowing deeply. He turned to face Wyborn, who stood next to him, his hands thrumming together, his cheeks as red as roses. CSM slid his hands up to Wyborn's, clasping them within. He guided the lad away from the door, to his bed at the opposite end of the room. The light shone through the window in such a way that it seemed to create the aura of a shrine, a sacred place where the two lovers could sacramae their feelings for one another. CSM, sweat dripping down his brow, he guided Wyborn to the bedside and sat him down. The two crouched on the bed, gazing deep into each other's eyes as though to cut through to the very soul. CSM gently ran his hand along the inside of Wyborn's thigh. After an awkward moment of silence, the two met eyes again, and no words had to be spoken. Their love was clear, and they knew what was going to come next. There were no regrets, no hesitation.

They played Go Fish all night, until Wyborn had to go home. Then, they texted until they went to bed.

SephirothKirby · 02-01-2008, 01:38 AM

God damn it Val, stop making me thank you.

Yeah, we need VGF Fanfics, just not of that...genre.

**Crazyswordsman** · 02-01-2008, 01:40 AM

That was just about the worst story I ever heard....I LOVE IT! -CSM

**Booyakasha** · 02-01-2008, 09:10 AM

Wow, Wy. I never knew you had it in you. (Hah hah! Double entendre!)

Maynard James Keenan · 02-01-2008, 10:13 AM

Link/Dark Link, y'all.

The worst pairing ever.

DARK LINK ISNT EVEN A LIVING CREATURE. DARK LINK DOES NOT HAVE FEELINGS.

01-30-2008, 11:02 AM	#4
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 7,132 Thanks: 92 Thanked 524 Times in 288 Posts Points: 17,078.98 Bank: 55,546.50 Total Points: 72,625.48 Donate	I mostly just think it's silly and a bit fey. Doesn't really provoke that negative a response from me. Not like, for example, hummus. Man, f*ck hummus. __________________ Boo--beware, he lives

01-30-2008, 11:13 AM	#6
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 7,132 Thanks: 92 Thanked 524 Times in 288 Posts Points: 17,078.98 Bank: 55,546.50 Total Points: 72,625.48 Donate	^Okay, I won't get you out of it. Especially not by saying horrible things like Spoiler Below "Mmmm, a tub of what looks like congealed cat vomit. Bet it goes great on a cracker!!" __________________ Boo--beware, he lives

01-30-2008, 11:29 AM	#8
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 7,132 Thanks: 92 Thanked 524 Times in 288 Posts Points: 17,078.98 Bank: 55,546.50 Total Points: 72,625.48 Donate	I don't care for fanfiction. That's one big strike against shipping, there--it inspires fanfiction. __________________ Boo--beware, he lives

01-30-2008, 11:33 AM	#10
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 7,132 Thanks: 92 Thanked 524 Times in 288 Posts Points: 17,078.98 Bank: 55,546.50 Total Points: 72,625.48 Donate	^You're totally ruining my argument with your words and such. Cut it out. __________________ Boo--beware, he lives

02-01-2008, 09:10 AM	#19
Booyakasha Mod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 7,132 Thanks: 92 Thanked 524 Times in 288 Posts Points: 17,078.98 Bank: 55,546.50 Total Points: 72,625.48 Donate	Wow, Wy. I never knew you had it in you. (Hah hah! Double entendre!) __________________ Boo--beware, he lives

01-30-2008, 10:39 AM	#2
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01-30-2008, 11:00 AM	#3
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01-30-2008, 11:08 AM	#5
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,411.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,186.69 Donate	^Hey. I just got into hummus, don't get me out of it. -CSM

01-30-2008, 11:23 AM	#7
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,411.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,186.69 Donate	^Hahaha Anyway, just because I hate "Shipping" doesn't mean I hate fanfiction. In my view, the following types of fanfiction are okay: Anything designed to make someone laugh Parody Satire Something designed to totally rip on something -CSM

01-30-2008, 11:31 AM	#9
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,411.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,186.69 Donate	^Yeah, but it's the kind of fanfics people take seriously. When I write fanfics, I make them in play-form (ie a script with lines) and I make sure they're intended to make fun of something and not be serious at all. -CSM

01-30-2008, 12:15 PM	#11
STOP LOOKING AT ME Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: YOU SAID THAT YOU KNEW ME AND I BELIEVED YOU DID Gender: Posts: 9,247 Thanks: 267 Thanked 585 Times in 430 Posts Blog Entries: 7 Points: 6,601.14 Bank: 74,653.97 Total Points: 81,255.10 Donate	Fanfictions are only good if A. It creates a story with all original Characters in tact on not hitting on who they shouldn't be. B. Supposed to be funny. C. Combinations that are POSSIBLE, and by that I mean no DBZ/Inuyasha (Unless it has to do with Rule 2) (Smacks self for breaking this rule) D. No Friends have....that.....please, just because you think they look girly is no excuse. Even Tidus doesn't deserve that. Now, follow these rules. Please Big, Sad, Soulful Eyes......Drawn on Cardboard.

01-30-2008, 01:14 PM	#12
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,411.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,186.69 Donate	Well, Boo, this and this are the kind of things I write. Parody, parody, parody. -CSM

01-30-2008, 05:50 PM	#13
Metal Man Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Gender: Posts: 7,034 Thanks: 77 Thanked 265 Times in 175 Posts Points: 8,514.29 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 8,514.29 Donate	I like hummus. And sorta like blue cheese. Neither of those look very appetizing. Shipping doesn't bother me, as long as nobody tries to effect anything I write with it. Nobody has, nobody probably will, and so I let them match trees up with doorknobs all they want. Generally it's one of those things on my 'avoid' list, which is probably why I don't violently react to it.

01-30-2008, 05:56 PM	#14
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,306.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,234.57 Donate	Wow, guys. In a discussion abotu fanfiction I expected razzing about the medium as a whole, but all of a sudden parody is a higher form of it? Nah-ah. Good fanfiction is by its very nature rare, but the best fanfics (from what I remember - haven't read any since about 2001) are not humorous.

02-01-2008, 12:51 AM	#15
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,411.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,186.69 Donate	^It's really based on the author. Me, for instance, I write parodies featuring characters from games and such, but I don't consider myself a fanfic writer, seeing as I also satirize sports a lot. -CSM

02-01-2008, 01:03 AM	#16
Chop Chop Master Onion KICK, PUNCH, IT'S ALL IN YOUR MIND Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Either UN's bed or Andre's bed. Gender: Posts: 13,965 Thanks: 982 Thanked 1,691 Times in 809 Posts Points: 162.31 Bank: 123,250.75 Total Points: 123,413.06 Donate	CSM slowly closed and locked the door behind him, swallowing deeply. He turned to face Wyborn, who stood next to him, his hands thrumming together, his cheeks as red as roses. CSM slid his hands up to Wyborn's, clasping them within. He guided the lad away from the door, to his bed at the opposite end of the room. The light shone through the window in such a way that it seemed to create the aura of a shrine, a sacred place where the two lovers could sacramae their feelings for one another. CSM, sweat dripping down his brow, he guided Wyborn to the bedside and sat him down. The two crouched on the bed, gazing deep into each other's eyes as though to cut through to the very soul. CSM gently ran his hand along the inside of Wyborn's thigh. After an awkward moment of silence, the two met eyes again, and no words had to be spoken. Their love was clear, and they knew what was going to come next. There were no regrets, no hesitation. They played Go Fish all night, until Wyborn had to go home. Then, they texted until they went to bed.

02-01-2008, 01:38 AM	#17
SephirothKirby Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Urine and his Aegis Erector. Gender: Posts: 5,487 Thanks: 257 Thanked 555 Times in 323 Posts Points: 0.45 Bank: 289,020.49 Total Points: 289,020.94 Donate	God damn it Val, stop making me thank you. Yeah, we need VGF Fanfics, just not of that...genre.

02-01-2008, 01:40 AM	#18
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,584 Thanks: 633 Thanked 471 Times in 311 Posts Points: 167,411.15 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 245,186.69 Donate	That was just about the worst story I ever heard....I LOVE IT! -CSM

02-01-2008, 10:13 AM	#20
Maynard James Keenan Cooler than you and you **ing know it. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere, being **ing awesome. Gender: Posts: 12,537 Thanks: 690 Thanked 1,144 Times in 770 Posts Blog Entries: 15 Points: 4,230.56 Bank: 36,453.89 Total Points: 40,684.45 Donate	Link/Dark Link, y'all. The worst pairing ever. DARK LINK ISNT EVEN A LIVING CREATURE. DARK LINK DOES NOT HAVE FEELINGS.