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Old 07-27-2008, 09:00 PM   #21
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i might be spouting this out of my rear end, but iirc, microsoft is more in the business to keep sony from expanding into other places then to make a profit. (otherwise I imagine they'd never have made the 360 because they never ever made a profit out of the xbox... i think)

EDIT: also the xbox is p. cool, unlike the ps3
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They've had profitable quarters before. The big problem last year was the warranty extension from their piss-poor system hardware design. Outside of that, they were looking at profitability from longterm after the outset of the XB1, mainly since they were trying to aggressively expand into a relatively closed off industry. Idea being if you develop a brand and lose millions early by slamming into the industry with marketing, you'll make it back with brand loyalty.

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Plot? Plot? Are we talking about storytelling here? I thought this was graphics versus gameplay?

I was under the impression that people who only cared about graphics died out when the systems got good enough that almost every single game had really damn good graphics. Perhaps that's because this is also around the time I stop paying attention to the world of video games.

Because video games are foremost an interactive art, the game play and play control are arguably the most important aspects of a game. Graphics and plot are decorative aspects of video games, and while serve an important role in piquing interest, they should be treated as secondary.

The Halo series isn't much above average IMO, but it has nothing to do with "plot" or "story." Personally, I feel that the weapons in the game are absolute garbage and no fun to fire at people. Therefore, I personally prefer the Timesplitters series.
Halo's weapons are pretty standard. Blame the shift from outlandish to quasi-realistic weapons (basic rifle, machine gun, sniper, shotgun, etc).

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Every gun in Halo is nerfed. What the hell is wrong with FPS games in general, for that matter? You have to shoot dudes like 20 ****ing times to kill them. Don't you give me that BS about headshots being the only insta-kill. No one can take a shotgun to the gut.
Its some stupid design choice that's kind of annoying. If I play Call of Duty 4, I'm usually only in the hardcore mode (basic one bullet kill) and always preferred games where it doesn't take 2 full clips to down someone. Gears of War isn't too bad, though it had balancing and coding issues (host lag advantage and that it basically turned into Shotguns of War). Only game I don't mind it so much is Team Fortress II.

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Old 07-27-2008, 09:14 PM   #22
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:33 PM   #23
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I havn't played tf2 in awhile though. i should check out the pyro update.
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Old 07-28-2008, 12:05 AM   #24
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I personally like the halo series ,ALOT!
And I've never really liked the first timesplitters to much(I've never played 2 or 3 though),but back to topic.
I used to be a graphics whore,but I now go by all three factors.(graphics,story,gameplay).
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:05 AM   #25
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Personally, I really don't give a damn about graphics. I'd like a game just as much if it were on the NES. The important things to me are controls, difficulty, plot, and adventure-to-combat ratio (mainly for action games).
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:18 AM   #26
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I don't think that there are people who "ONLY CARE ABOUT TEH GRAPHIX." There are people who care about graphics more than others. There are people who would like their game to look better than the others. Nobody is going to buy a game that they think that they'll dislike just because it has better graphics, and nobody is going to skip a game that they think they'll probably like just because its graphics aren't as good.
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:24 AM   #27
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^ That's what you think.
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Get over it, dude. This is not something new. It's annoying and it always will be annoying.
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I'm just going to clarify that when I say "graphics",I don't just mean that I like a game in 3-d,I mean just how it looks can help contribute to how the game feels.
I also forgot to mention that I also go by sound(including music).
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I don't really care about the Graphics or Plot. If I think it's fun, I play it. Simple as that.
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:28 AM   #31
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Well of course graphics contribute to the feel of the game. If the graphics are unappealing, this impacts your enjoyment the same way that bad music would. It's not complicated, good graphics are actually essential. At the core Gameplay is the most important aspect of a good game, but that by no means does that excuse what you see on screen. The visuals help create the atmosphere for you to get caught up in a game. The better the graphics, the more distinguishable on screen objects are, which in turn makes the gameplay more engrossing.

Like I said, all this can be applied to Audio as well.

The topic creator is just referring to Graphics-whores, the kind of ignorant (usually teenage) gamer that dismisses old school games in particular because they aren't FPS HALO 0WNZOME! YEAH

Plot has never been essential to video games, unless the emphasis and gameplay is driven by the plot, such as in RPGs. Who ever liked Mario and Sonic games because of their plots??
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I can think of a Mario game I dislike for its plot.

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Everyone knows, the worse plot the video game has, the better game play.

Proof: Final Fantasy Legend

(actually I've never played it, but some comedienne I saw on Comedy Central like two years ago had a really hilarious routine about it)
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