People Who Only Care About Graphics.

[VG_Addict]

Wanna know what's pissing me off today? It's PEOPLE WHO ONLY CARE ABOUT A GAME'S GRAPHICS!!!!! Seriously, all people seem to care about nowadays is graphics! Newsflash, people: JUST BECAUSE A GAME HAS GOOD GRAPHICS DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY MAKE IT GOOD!! In my opinion, if all you care about is how good the game looks, you don't deserve the title of "gamer". Whatever happened to the days when the most important thing in a video game was gameplay? Am I the only one who hates this about modern gamers?

[STOP LOOKING AT ME]

Anyone with actual taste hates those kinds of people, and it's especially the Halo Fans that stress Graphics>Gameplay idea. This could be because everyone tries to say that Halo is a same-y shooter, and the Halo fans don't want to hear that, so they point to the graphics to save themselves.

Graphics are indeed important....to a point. If you spend too much time on Graphics and not enough on gameplay, then obviously you are going to trip up somewhere.

People need to understand that gameplay is what matters. Even if you have good intentions, all the graphics in the world won't save you when you can't do anything fun.

[Speed]

Those Halo fans don't need to point at the Graphics...What seperates Halo from some other "Same-y Shooters" is that IT HAS A STORY! a pretty good one to.

(Oh wait there the type who skip cutscenes)

[STOP LOOKING AT ME]

1. I'm talking about the dumb Halo fans.

2. It's aliens. They attack Earth. They try to revive a deadly space weapon. There is Religious References up the butt.

But, at least it has a deep storyline, unlike some shooters that give you an intro and an ending and that's it.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by Tazy_10

But, at least it has a deep storyline, unlike some shooters that give you an intro and an ending and that's it.

That's what I mean

[SephirothKirby]

Your copy of Halo came with a plot?

[Speed]

Originally Posted by SephirothKirby

Your copy of Halo came with a plot?

Actually yes yours didn't?

[Blake]

Halo 1 = Alright plot. All it's about is destroying a ring.
Halo 2 = Good arbiter plot. Master Chief just kills things.
Halo 3 = HAI JOHN I'M GONNA MESS WITH YOUR HUD. (and) I'M FLOOD AND I CAN TALK. LET MY MINDLESS POPCORN JUICERS JOIN YOUR FORCES FOR A WHILE.

Haven't finished Halo 3 completely but that's all I got from it.

[Speed]

Originally Posted by Blake

Halo 1 = Alright plot. All it's about is destroying a ring.
Halo 2 = Good arbiter plot. Master Chief just kills things.
Halo 3 = HAI JOHN I'M GONNA MESS WITH YOUR HUD. (and) I'M FLOOD AND I CAN TALK. LET MY MINDLESS POPCORN JUICERS JOIN YOUR FORCES FOR A WHILE.

Haven't finished Halo 3 completely but that's all I got from it.

It's no Final Fantasy but it's not as bad as most Shooters.

[X-3]

^And those other shooters would be...?

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[*shrug* Halo doesn't really impress me much as far as uniqueness goes. I'd put the Call of Duty series, Rainbow Six Vegas games, and Gears of War above it no question. As far as the graphics thing, while I do agree with the topic title, graphics has just as much a right as the other elements of a game to be viewed with importance. ~SML]

[Lurch1982]

There are a handful of shooters with a story. Most of which is "Save ___ from ___."

Though I wouldn't argue Halo 3 was sold on the graphics. It runs smooth, so that's enough. The Halo series must have sold on graphics though, it couldn't have anything to do with multiplayer right? Because the reason Halo has better staying power than, say, Gears of War or Call of Duty is because the matchmaking system works, the multiplayer is deep, and it has vehicles.

I also wouldn't put any FF (or MGS before you throw that out there) as the high point of games with plots unless your idea of a plot is mindless cliche after cliche (especiallly in JRPGs) with plot holes that aren't resolved, some preachy Philosophy 101 jargon, and endings/plot twists that border on incoherantness and usually trample into the "this makes absolutely no sense" range.

And this whole "games used to be gameplay over graphics" is total bullcrap, since every game released since the industry started was pushed by its "NEW GRAPHICS."

[Chunky Kong12345]

Half-Life 2 through to Episode 2 has a pretty good story.

[Crazyswordsman]

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-CSM

[REALITY = LIBERAL BIAS]

Originally Posted by Lurch1982

There are a handful of shooters with a story. Most of which is "Save ___ from ___."

Though I wouldn't argue Halo 3 was sold on the graphics. It runs smooth, so that's enough. The Halo series must have sold on graphics though, it couldn't have anything to do with multiplayer right? Because the reason Halo has better staying power than, say, Gears of War or Call of Duty is because the matchmaking system works, the multiplayer is deep, and it has vehicles.

I also wouldn't put any FF (or MGS before you throw that out there) as the high point of games with plots unless your idea of a plot is mindless cliche after cliche (especiallly in JRPGs) with plot holes that aren't resolved, some preachy Philosophy 101 jargon, and endings/plot twists that border on incoherantness and usually trample into the "this makes absolutely no sense" range.

And this whole "games used to be gameplay over graphics" is total bullcrap, since every game released since the industry started was pushed by its "NEW GRAPHICS."

I was going to say something about halo (and FF) having a bad plot but i'll just quote this instead.

EDIT: also Half-life has a plot a million times better then religious alien zealots

[DELICIOUS POISON]

Stupid stories ruin good videogames, like Halo. Perfectly good Unreal clone, and they stick a story on it. Then retarded fratboys the world over are like IT HAS GRPX ND STORY SO GOOD. Then crap systems made by Microsoft actually succeed (if by succeed you mean lose millions lawl), and the cycle of haet continues.

[REALITY = LIBERAL BIAS]

i might be spouting this out of my rear end, but iirc, microsoft is more in the business to keep sony from expanding into other places then to make a profit. (otherwise I imagine they'd never have made the 360 because they never ever made a profit out of the xbox... i think)

EDIT: also the xbox is p. cool, unlike the ps3

[Bomby]

Plot? Plot? Are we talking about storytelling here? I thought this was graphics versus gameplay?

I was under the impression that people who only cared about graphics died out when the systems got good enough that almost every single game had really damn good graphics. Perhaps that's because this is also around the time I stop paying attention to the world of video games.

Because video games are foremost an interactive art, the game play and play control are arguably the most important aspects of a game. Graphics and plot are decorative aspects of video games, and while serve an important role in piquing interest, they should be treated as secondary.

The Halo series isn't much above average IMO, but it has nothing to do with "plot" or "story." Personally, I feel that the weapons in the game are absolute garbage and no fun to fire at people. Therefore, I personally prefer the Timesplitters series.

[REALITY = LIBERAL BIAS]

yes! timesplitters is the best! next to tf2 and id shooters

[DELICIOUS POISON]

Every gun in Halo is nerfed. What the hell is wrong with FPS games in general, for that matter? You have to shoot dudes like 20 ****ing times to kill them. Don't you give me that BS about headshots being the only insta-kill. No one can take a shotgun to the gut.

[Bomby]

That's why I always play License to Kill mode in GoldenEye. Which is still my favorite FPS to this day.