ALOT Of Cartoons

The Flattest Pancake · 07-22-2009, 07:45 PM

I may just be an average 10 year old, but here's something most 10 year olds don't have: A hatred for most cartoons. God, what have cartoon creators been up to these days? I mean, I watch The Simpsons, and that's a show for teenagers. I HAVE SIX SEASONS OF IT, FOR GOD SAKE! Anyway, back on topic. Disney's been coming up with some sshows. Or should I say, SUCKISH shows? These new made in 2009/2008 shows HAVE got to go. WTF? Zeke and Luther? Disney XD's practically a huge trash pile. It's scary, I know.

Robotazy · 07-22-2009, 07:50 PM

~~and you're just realizing this?~~

Oh, right. You're younger than the rest of us.

Someone introduce this young man to the 70's, 80's and 90's

Luigiman7 · 07-22-2009, 08:41 PM

^^ Alot of young people hate many "kids" shows.

***Ace Mercury*** · 07-22-2009, 09:07 PM

A lot of people also know that "alot" does not mean "a lot".

Also Darkwing Duck was awesome, I don't care who you are.

Panfan · 07-22-2009, 09:17 PM

Zeke and Luther isn't a cartoon...

**Loot** · 07-22-2009, 09:38 PM

Toon Disney was pretty bearable at one point.

Then they did the whole "GIRLS GET DISNEY, BOYS GET TOON DISNEY. ALSO, NAME IT DISNEY XD. BITCHIN'!"

Panfan · 07-22-2009, 09:48 PM

Disney xD still has reruns of Gargoyles and Spider-Man so I'm cool with it in general.

Oh, and Even Stevens. That takes me back.

1-up Salesman · 07-22-2009, 10:09 PM

Toon Disney had some great stuff. It started to show Batman TAS, Superman TAS, with the addition of stuff like Duck Tales, Chip and Dale: Rescue Rangers, and Tailspin. Then, we get "DISNEY XD, LOL THIS IS SO COOL AND IT'S FOR BOYZ" The only good thing on there is Spectacular Spiderman.

Sim Kid · 07-22-2009, 10:32 PM

90% of any TV show or entertainment sucks and will suck to you. period. That's the rule. The main problem with Animation or "Cartoons" per se is that people don't take it seriously. Sure I know, there are plenty of stuff that's "not for kids" or is actually trying to deliver a message without coming across as pretentious waffle, but the main thing is that the right people don't take it seriously, and there are plenty of people who think animation is just for kids and has no appeal otherwise. I have been told "aren't you a bit old to be watching that?" when watching Read or Die dubbed, and not three seconds after my mom said that did a character yell "YOU B*TCH!!". Yeah, then they found out that there could be such thing as animation that wasn't for kids and for kids only and actually cover more serious stuff. They don't HAVE to be sitcoms...animation can tell a story that couldn't be acted out by actors in real life, or exactly what was in the animators' eyes. There are some things you can do with animation that you just can't with people, good-CG-I or rubbery CG-I.

Of course nothing can beat Nostalgia for any determining quality factor for some shows. My mom's brothers actually liked Tom Slick yet she'll tell you that show as utter crap to her.

Metal Man · 07-23-2009, 01:27 AM

But of course they suck--CGI has allowed any old moron to get their own cartoon series.

Back when, the expensive costs of animation forced idiot writers to look elsewhere for their schlock.

The Flattest Pancake · 07-23-2009, 06:34 AM

I'm not talking about the classics, they still show them on one of my stations, but I just think cartoon writers need to think some more.

***Cosmonautical*** · 07-23-2009, 09:08 AM

Eh, yeah, most of the cartoons aimed at kids are total crap these days. The writers seem to think of the kids as total morons or something. We used to have actual professionals making our entertainment, back in the 90's, and even a lot of that was crap. At least it wasn't all effing vector animation, though. Flash looks like ass, and everyone should get over it.

Sim Kid · 07-23-2009, 01:33 PM

It's to cut costs...that's what Xeroxing was meant to originally do, but it actually still looked pretty good when they started to clean it up a little. (Compare 101 Dalmations to later films...notice it looks al itle more "scratchy" and "Sketchy")

Why hire 100 people to work on a xeroxing budget when you can cut costs by hiring 10 people to work on flash? I still think that they're missing a lot of potential stuff with the HD technology. Anyone ever see Sleeping Beauty in HD? The backgroudns are hand-painted and seriously, there's a lot of potential with HD and hand-painted bakcgrounds.

07-22-2009, 07:45 PM	#1
The Flattest Pancake Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: (insert something witty here) Gender: Posts: 1,391 Thanks: 97 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts Blog Entries: 8	ALOT Of Cartoons I may just be an average 10 year old, but here's something most 10 year olds don't have: A hatred for most cartoons. God, what have cartoon creators been up to these days? I mean, I watch The Simpsons, and that's a show for teenagers. I HAVE SIX SEASONS OF IT, FOR GOD SAKE! Anyway, back on topic. Disney's been coming up with some sshows. Or should I say, SUCKISH shows? These new made in 2009/2008 shows HAVE got to go. WTF? Zeke and Luther? Disney XD's practically a huge trash pile. It's scary, I know.

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Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	~~and you're just realizing this?~~ Oh, right. You're younger than the rest of us. Someone introduce this young man to the 70's, 80's and 90's

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*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	A lot of people also know that "alot" does not mean "a lot". Also Darkwing Duck was awesome, I don't care who you are.

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Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,251 Times in 1,339 Posts Blog Entries: 15	Zeke and Luther isn't a cartoon...

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Loot Apparently I'm a mod? Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 13,208 Thanks: 236 Thanked 1,237 Times in 659 Posts	Toon Disney was pretty bearable at one point. Then they did the whole "GIRLS GET DISNEY, BOYS GET TOON DISNEY. ALSO, NAME IT DISNEY XD. BITCHIN'!"

07-22-2009, 09:48 PM	#7
Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,251 Times in 1,339 Posts Blog Entries: 15	Disney xD still has reruns of Gargoyles and Spider-Man so I'm cool with it in general. Oh, and Even Stevens. That takes me back.

07-22-2009, 10:09 PM	#8
1-up Salesman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Letting you guys know that I'm planning on continuing Attack of the Spammers soon. Gender: Posts: 4,095 Thanks: 2,162 Thanked 250 Times in 194 Posts Blog Entries: 9	Toon Disney had some great stuff. It started to show Batman TAS, Superman TAS, with the addition of stuff like Duck Tales, Chip and Dale: Rescue Rangers, and Tailspin. Then, we get "DISNEY XD, LOL THIS IS SO COOL AND IT'S FOR BOYZ" The only good thing on there is Spectacular Spiderman.

07-22-2009, 10:32 PM	#9
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	90% of any TV show or entertainment sucks and will suck to you. period. That's the rule. The main problem with Animation or "Cartoons" per se is that people don't take it seriously. Sure I know, there are plenty of stuff that's "not for kids" or is actually trying to deliver a message without coming across as pretentious waffle, but the main thing is that the right people don't take it seriously, and there are plenty of people who think animation is just for kids and has no appeal otherwise. I have been told "aren't you a bit old to be watching that?" when watching Read or Die dubbed, and not three seconds after my mom said that did a character yell "YOU B*TCH!!". Yeah, then they found out that there could be such thing as animation that wasn't for kids and for kids only and actually cover more serious stuff. They don't HAVE to be sitcoms...animation can tell a story that couldn't be acted out by actors in real life, or exactly what was in the animators' eyes. There are some things you can do with animation that you just can't with people, good-CG-I or rubbery CG-I. Of course nothing can beat Nostalgia for any determining quality factor for some shows. My mom's brothers actually liked Tom Slick yet she'll tell you that show as utter crap to her.

07-23-2009, 01:27 AM	#10
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	But of course they suck--CGI has allowed any old moron to get their own cartoon series. Back when, the expensive costs of animation forced idiot writers to look elsewhere for their schlock.

07-23-2009, 06:34 AM	#11
The Flattest Pancake Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: (insert something witty here) Gender: Posts: 1,391 Thanks: 97 Thanked 25 Times in 23 Posts Blog Entries: 8	I'm not talking about the classics, they still show them on one of my stations, but I just think cartoon writers need to think some more.

07-23-2009, 09:08 AM	#12
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Eh, yeah, most of the cartoons aimed at kids are total crap these days. The writers seem to think of the kids as total morons or something. We used to have actual professionals making our entertainment, back in the 90's, and even a lot of that was crap. At least it wasn't all effing vector animation, though. Flash looks like ass, and everyone should get over it.

07-23-2009, 01:33 PM	#13
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	It's to cut costs...that's what Xeroxing was meant to originally do, but it actually still looked pretty good when they started to clean it up a little. (Compare 101 Dalmations to later films...notice it looks al itle more "scratchy" and "Sketchy") Why hire 100 people to work on a xeroxing budget when you can cut costs by hiring 10 people to work on flash? I still think that they're missing a lot of potential stuff with the HD technology. Anyone ever see Sleeping Beauty in HD? The backgroudns are hand-painted and seriously, there's a lot of potential with HD and hand-painted bakcgrounds.