People who ignore your arguments simply because you're, "too young".

Vgfian · 07-29-2009, 10:51 PM

Dammit! Don't tell me that I'm too young to understand what I'm saying, or that I'm just spewing what my parents have been saying!

I'm of near genius IQ level, possibly much higher than yours, and I'm too young to understand what I'm saying?

F**k you!

**Valigarmander** · 07-29-2009, 10:52 PM

You're too young to understand.

Robotazy · 07-29-2009, 11:37 PM

You'll understand when you're older.

Metal Man · 07-29-2009, 11:47 PM

No! They're all wrong! You're perfectly intelligent, they're just using your age to hide their incompetence from you.

I remember the varying amounts of vengeance I enacted on those who said I was 'too young' when I got old enough. Yeah. Turns out they had just been hiding their weakness behind it. While sometimes it's true (usually for things young people shouldn't know about yet) on average it's just ageism.

Vgfian · 07-29-2009, 11:57 PM

Yeah, we were in a debate about religion, and they kept saying that Jesus was never here.

I can understand not believing he was the son of God, but he was here.

Right in the middle of the argument they say (verbatim), "F*ck you dude, you're too young to know what the f*ck you're even talking about
you're just spitting out what ur parents told you to say"

They left shortly after, which leads me to believe that I won the argument.
Not to say that it would really be that much of a victory...

***Ace Mercury*** · 07-30-2009, 08:08 AM

You are too young. I mean, Jesus would've been around 2000 years ago, and you're, what, fifteen years old? That's leagues different; leagues, columns, digits, colours.

Srsly tho, the fact that the other guy walked away swearing reveals a lack of empathy on your part, unless you were intentionally trying to insense the guy. Since you're Wile E. Coyote, super genius, I expect you to be able to manipulate the emotions of people weaker than you.

Anyways, there are a few issues that people never* change their minds about: religion and politics are the big ones. It's fine enough to get their point of view, since everyone loves talking about themselves, but they don't want to listen to things that contradict what they already believe. It's human nature (e.g. Confirmation bias), and if you had less patience than the other guy, you'd be swearing too.

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* By "never", I mean not through gentlemently conversation; more like through "born-again" crises.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 07-30-2009, 08:20 AM

"Genius level IQ" doesn't mean you necessarily have as large a wealth of knowledge as other people. It's entirely true that younger people don't have as much experience, or indeed, as many years to acquire information.

Of course, in the instance you've explained, he was just being a dick and you should ignore it. But I still make the recommendation not to let you're "genius level IQ" give you an unhealthy ego. Everyone can always learn more.

And IQ tests are inaccurate and no professional uses them anymore, sorry.

Vgfian · 07-30-2009, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the part of the conversation I'm speaking of

Stranger: JESUS F**K
You: No, Jesus never sinned while he was on Earth.

Stranger: I'll f*ck Jesus up his *ss and (ejaculate) inside so hard, the rapture will be upon us
You: Eh, once the blasphemy hits, I gotta go.
Stranger: F**k your god
Stranger: Jesus is a f**king n**ger b*tch
Stranger: Hail Satan
You: *punches you in the stomach with a Bible
You: *then hits you on the head with it
Stranger: haha
Stranger: the bible
Stranger: what a f**ing jokje
You: *then holds a silver crucifix to your forehead
Stranger: F**K RELIGEON
Stranger: I HATE JESUS
Stranger: Honestly i can't even say that
Stranger: Cause he never existed
You: Well, believe him as the messiah or not, he definitely existed.
Stranger: It would be like me saying i hate the tooth fairy
Stranger: No way
You: yup
Stranger: over 10 religeons had the same bullsh*t jesus story
Stranger: google search Zeitgeist
Stranger: watch the film
Stranger: it will change ur life
You: My point is that he was a real guy, whether you believe he was the son of God or not, he was really alive
You: Anyone who says otherwise, is just trying avoid arguing for themselves, by denying it all.
Stranger: My point is he never existed
Stranger: no f**k you
Stranger: He was never a person
You: Yes he was.
Stranger: there is no historical record of it
You: Try the Bible, it is a historical record
Stranger: and the bible doesn't count, just like a book of fairy tales doesn't count either
You: And why doesn't it, it all fits perfectly, I'm sure most historians would agree.
Stranger: F**k you dude, you're too young to know what the f**k you're even talking about
Stranger: you're just spitting out what ur parents told you to say
You: No, actually, I have a near genius IQ
Stranger: LOL
You: So, don't count me out for my age
Stranger: Yeah ok
Stranger: Don't worry I already have
Stranger: Cya later ******
Your conversational partner has disconnected.

Keep in mind that before this part started, we were just joking around.

Yes I realize that it was a random chat, and I shouldn't get worked up, and yes I realise that I started to get a bit childish in my arguments as well.

It just pisses me off when your opinion is completely voided, I can probably think of other cases, this one just kinda made me snap.

I'm pretty much chill again, and don't care. I'm guessing it was just, "bottled up" emotion coming out all at once, but again I don't care now, just wanted to point out that it sucks...

^^Also, I never claimed to be a super genius, just a near genius (about 130), which I consider pretty high for a 15 year old.

^As far as ego is concerned, I'm at least a million times more humble than the average human being.
...Okay, I'm kidding, and you know it.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 07-30-2009, 08:40 AM

...Okay, see, any kind of conversation like that should be exited, and/or never taken seriously whatsoever. *shrug*

heh · 07-30-2009, 09:50 AM

you really shouldn't use religious holy books as your basis for knowledge of that religon though, it would be like basing your opinion of hitler on his opinion of himself.

***Marilink*** · 07-30-2009, 10:17 AM

I don't really like it when people do that to me, either, but I just kinda deal with it. I can usually talk my way out of this problem when it comes to religious stuff, though, and I always defer when it gets to be too much for me.

Luigiman7 · 07-30-2009, 10:20 AM

stranger is a ****tard

Panfan · 07-30-2009, 11:52 AM

when somebody calls jesus a racial slur it should generally be noted that this is not a scholar in any form and is usually just a troll

t3hDarkness · 07-30-2009, 12:21 PM

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Cool Story Bro.

Mikhail Gorbachev · 07-30-2009, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boner the Vgfian

^^Also, I never claimed to be a super genius, just a near genius (about 130), which I consider pretty high for a 15 year old.

I wondered if you'd make that mistake: there's no such thing as 'high for a 15-year-old.' If you get tested again at 18, your IQ most likely won't jump to 150; it'll stay within a few points. IQ is weighted by age so that a 15-year-old's 130 is a measurement of performance compared to others of a similar age group. An 18-year-old with a 130 IQ will be better at whatever IQ tests measure than you.

Anyway, you shouldn't use your IQ as reason that your arguments are better than other peoples', or use IQ as a metric to compare people, because you're doing the same thing as that other guy in acting as though whose belief is right depends on who's smarter/more experienced. In addition, IQ is a measurement of skill in several cognitive areas (with questionable reliability), not an accurate measure of intelligence. Richard Feynman was one of the smartest scientists to ever live - on the same level as, say, Einstein or Tesla, and his IQ was 124. Which is ridiculous; mine is higher than that (yours might be too) but I'm far from being that smart.

What I find similarly annoying is when someone dismisses something I believe as something I'll 'grow out of.' Especially a viewpoint they never themselves held or considered, much less grew out of, and one that you have to disadvantage yourself and/or explicity disagree with 90% of society and what you were taught when you were younger to hold.

Robotazy · 07-30-2009, 01:00 PM

You can have a brain, and still not be very smart.

Metal Man · 07-30-2009, 01:03 PM

Yeah, intelligence isn't an automatic pass on arguments. But of course, being 'too young' usually isn't an automatic victory for the other person, who unless they have a genuine connection to why you are misunderstanding their argument, is generally just making an ad hominem argument.

As for that argument you got into, that was a troll. Best reacted to by going "YOU'RE SO SMART INTERNET TROLL, YOU KNOW HOW TO STRING PROFANITY AND JESUS IN THE SAME SENTENCE. WHY, NO ONE COULD DO THAT AS WELL AS YOU, FOR THEY ALL GREW UP WHILE YOU WEREN'T LOOKING."

Or just leaving the conversation, in your case, since you aren't an internet troll troller like I can be.

Panfan · 07-30-2009, 01:15 PM

holy **** pix haven't seen you in forever how ya been man

Sim Kid · 07-30-2009, 01:50 PM

I remember why I said I didn't like Bush and felt that the 2004 election was a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich since Kerry was no better.

Guess what the first words out of my parents' mouths were?

And I had said that I did not like the Religion Confirmation "Brainwashing" I was put in so I was literally directly quoting the kinds of stuff they were saying, guess what my parents and sister said?

That's right. "You're too young to have an opinion". And keep in mind I was 17, and my sister was confirmed at 14.

Eagle Eye · 07-30-2009, 04:00 PM

Religion itself is flawed, because religion is a man made idea. God never said "o hai guyz, split up and kill each other over your own misinterpretation of my word kay?"

IMO the Bible is supposed to be self-translated, as all the stories and situations you should apply to yourself, not to everybody else.

It helps to look older than you do, because after you've had a few conversations with people and finally reveal your age, they're usually like "I would have never known".

The oldest anyone has ever said I looked was 30. I gave them the people's eyebrow.

07-29-2009, 10:51 PM	#1
Vgfian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Listening to Seeking 7 Seven and giving out free hugs. :) Gender: Posts: 6,862 Thanks: 2,433 Thanked 398 Times in 311 Posts	People who ignore your arguments simply because you're, "too young". Dammit! Don't tell me that I'm too young to understand what I'm saying, or that I'm just spewing what my parents have been saying! I'm of near genius IQ level, possibly much higher than yours, and I'm too young to understand what I'm saying? F**k you!

07-30-2009, 08:08 AM	#6
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Eye'm the Strongest! You are too young. I mean, Jesus would've been around 2000 years ago, and you're, what, fifteen years old? That's leagues different; leagues, columns, digits, colours. Srsly tho, the fact that the other guy walked away swearing reveals a lack of empathy on your part, unless you were intentionally trying to insense the guy. Since you're Wile E. Coyote, super genius, I expect you to be able to manipulate the emotions of people weaker than you. Anyways, there are a few issues that people never* change their minds about: religion and politics are the big ones. It's fine enough to get their point of view, since everyone loves talking about themselves, but they don't want to listen to things that contradict what they already believe. It's human nature (e.g. Confirmation bias), and if you had less patience than the other guy, you'd be swearing too. ---- * By "never", I mean not through gentlemently conversation; more like through "born-again" crises.

07-30-2009, 10:20 AM	#12
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07-29-2009, 10:52 PM	#2
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	You're too young to understand.

07-29-2009, 11:37 PM	#3
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	You'll understand when you're older.

07-29-2009, 11:47 PM	#4
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	No! They're all wrong! You're perfectly intelligent, they're just using your age to hide their incompetence from you. I remember the varying amounts of vengeance I enacted on those who said I was 'too young' when I got old enough. Yeah. Turns out they had just been hiding their weakness behind it. While sometimes it's true (usually for things young people shouldn't know about yet) on average it's just ageism.

07-29-2009, 11:57 PM	#5
Vgfian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Listening to Seeking 7 Seven and giving out free hugs. :) Gender: Posts: 6,862 Thanks: 2,433 Thanked 398 Times in 311 Posts	Yeah, we were in a debate about religion, and they kept saying that Jesus was never here. I can understand not believing he was the son of God, but he was here. Right in the middle of the argument they say (verbatim), "Fck you dude, you're too young to know what the fck you're even talking about you're just spitting out what ur parents told you to say" They left shortly after, which leads me to believe that I won the argument. Not to say that it would really be that much of a victory...

07-30-2009, 08:20 AM	#7
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	"Genius level IQ" doesn't mean you necessarily have as large a wealth of knowledge as other people. It's entirely true that younger people don't have as much experience, or indeed, as many years to acquire information. Of course, in the instance you've explained, he was just being a dick and you should ignore it. But I still make the recommendation not to let you're "genius level IQ" give you an unhealthy ego. Everyone can always learn more. And IQ tests are inaccurate and no professional uses them anymore, sorry.

07-30-2009, 08:40 AM	#9
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	...Okay, see, any kind of conversation like that should be exited, and/or never taken seriously whatsoever. shrug

07-30-2009, 09:50 AM	#10
heh Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: lo-ca-tion; Noun- 1. a place or situation occupied: That house is in a fine location Gender: Posts: 9,849 Thanks: 710 Thanked 955 Times in 628 Posts	you really shouldn't use religious holy books as your basis for knowledge of that religon though, it would be like basing your opinion of hitler on his opinion of himself.

07-30-2009, 10:17 AM	#11
*Marilink* Gotta catch 'em all! Supermod! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Location, Location. Gender: Posts: 29,118 Thanks: 2,535 Thanked 1,823 Times in 1,008 Posts	I don't really like it when people do that to me, either, but I just kinda deal with it. I can usually talk my way out of this problem when it comes to religious stuff, though, and I always defer when it gets to be too much for me.

07-30-2009, 11:52 AM	#13
Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,251 Times in 1,339 Posts Blog Entries: 15	when somebody calls jesus a racial slur it should generally be noted that this is not a scholar in any form and is usually just a troll

07-30-2009, 12:21 PM	#14
t3hDarkness Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I weep oily black tears of joy. Gender: Posts: 7,590 Thanks: 119 Thanked 418 Times in 306 Posts Blog Entries: 5	. . . Cool Story Bro.

07-30-2009, 01:00 PM	#16
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	You can have a brain, and still not be very smart.

07-30-2009, 01:03 PM	#17
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Yeah, intelligence isn't an automatic pass on arguments. But of course, being 'too young' usually isn't an automatic victory for the other person, who unless they have a genuine connection to why you are misunderstanding their argument, is generally just making an ad hominem argument. As for that argument you got into, that was a troll. Best reacted to by going "YOU'RE SO SMART INTERNET TROLL, YOU KNOW HOW TO STRING PROFANITY AND JESUS IN THE SAME SENTENCE. WHY, NO ONE COULD DO THAT AS WELL AS YOU, FOR THEY ALL GREW UP WHILE YOU WEREN'T LOOKING." Or just leaving the conversation, in your case, since you aren't an internet troll troller like I can be.

07-30-2009, 01:15 PM	#18
Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,251 Times in 1,339 Posts Blog Entries: 15	holy **** pix haven't seen you in forever how ya been man

07-30-2009, 01:50 PM	#19
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	I remember why I said I didn't like Bush and felt that the 2004 election was a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich since Kerry was no better. Guess what the first words out of my parents' mouths were? And I had said that I did not like the Religion Confirmation "Brainwashing" I was put in so I was literally directly quoting the kinds of stuff they were saying, guess what my parents and sister said? That's right. "You're too young to have an opinion". And keep in mind I was 17, and my sister was confirmed at 14.

07-30-2009, 04:00 PM	#20
Eagle Eye Diddy bops Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Gender: Posts: 15,014 Thanks: 1,616 Thanked 1,084 Times in 597 Posts	Religion itself is flawed, because religion is a man made idea. God never said "o hai guyz, split up and kill each other over your own misinterpretation of my word kay?" IMO the Bible is supposed to be self-translated, as all the stories and situations you should apply to yourself, not to everybody else. It helps to look older than you do, because after you've had a few conversations with people and finally reveal your age, they're usually like "I would have never known". The oldest anyone has ever said I looked was 30. I gave them the people's eyebrow.