People who respect the kind of people on "Jersey Shore" more than people like me.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-23-2011, 03:26 PM

Seriously. I don't understand how anyone can respect people like the Situation or Snooky or whoever else is on that show (my brother loves the Situation) when all they do is go to tanning salons and fight all the time and do nothing productive with their lives. Meanwhile, most people are struggling with work or even to find a job (and are in most cases far more productive), and don't get anywhere near the amount of respect that the cast of Jersey Shore gets. I feel like society treats us as second-class as opposed to people on Jersey Shore. -CSM

(and I've only seen the show once at a friend's house and I intend to never see it again)

**Valigarmander** · 01-23-2011, 03:36 PM

I made a thread about this earlier. I don't really understand how anybody on that show could be considered "respectable".

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-23-2011, 03:48 PM

^Because people see them as role models. These people also want to be considered role models. -CSM

ZeldaGirl · 01-23-2011, 04:16 PM

Are they really seen as role-models? I was under the impression Jersey Shore was created to make everybody else feel better about themselves.

Glux · 01-23-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^Because people see them as role models. These people also want to be considered role models. -CSM

SEX, TAN, FIGHT, BITCH, BE AN *******, SEX, TAN, FIGHT, BITCH, BE AN *******, SEX, TAN, FIGHT, BITCH, BE AN *******, Repeat ∞

Fairlight Excalibur · 01-23-2011, 04:41 PM

This image will be reposted in every topic with Jersey Shore in the title.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 01-23-2011, 06:33 PM

Herpes nest is still one of my new favourite insults.

Jailbreaker · 01-23-2011, 07:41 PM

I've heard of this show. I've heard it's kind of like Paris Hilton. The people are famous for nothing.

Glux · 01-23-2011, 07:49 PM

^ Don't forget the Kardashians.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-23-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeldaGirl

Are they really seen as role-models? I was under the impression Jersey Shore was created to make everybody else feel better about themselves.

That's the thing. I know I'm better than those people. It just seems like I'm worse than those people. -CSM

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 01-23-2011, 09:35 PM

It's all a perspective, dood. You and me, and the rest of us, we're average normal people, nothing special going for us in this media-saturated society. Those guys are on the almighty television. That instantly makes them Other. Special. Something that the bored, disillusioned, ignorant masses MUST watch. It's all created. Fictional bull****. Those folks on the TV are *******s built up to be famous and important to all the normal, average *******s in the world.

In short, it's up to you to not give a damn. We all know for a fact that the pretense behind TV is to sell you a product. They're selling people, "personalities". You don't have to buy into it, and you don't have to let it get you down that they are an invented celebrity. Shrug it off. They don't mean anything. They are just other people with more recognition. It's hardly "respect"; you just live your life and have confidence in yourself, and that's the only thing of significance here.

**Crazyswordsman** · 01-23-2011, 09:38 PM

^Sorry, but when I read the news to find out what's going on around the world, particularly in Africa and Asia, I don't want to see a bunch of sleazebags parading across the front page being "party animals" and being able to record an album just because of their fame (even though I'm probably better at guitar than they are at singing (and I REALLY WANT TO PLAY IN A BAND AND WRITE MY OWN MUSIC), things start to become a problem. -CSM

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 01-23-2011, 10:04 PM

And I don't like imagining that something like Twilight is considered a definitive book series of the modern era, and that Meyer can make hundreds of thousands of dollars off of it when I can write better than that, but may never get published due to the ridiculously competitive market.

But the difference is, I NEVER EVER feel like I'm less because of it. I know my worth. Their marketing doesn't make me doubt myself or consider I'm not respected or valued.

Totally Kennerson · 01-23-2011, 10:07 PM

If it makes you feel any better, I have no idea what Jersey Shore is.

Sim Kid · 01-23-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^Because people see them as role models. These people also want to be considered role models. -CSM

You sure it's not a role Model in the way Cartman is?

"Kids, this is what NOT to be."

***Cosmonautical*** · 01-24-2011, 05:52 AM

People want to know about them because they are dynamic, unrealistic flakes. That's it. It's called drama - people typically behaving in an exaggerated fashion that typically results in absurd mistakes and damaged relationships.

More importantly, the characters on that kind of show are so stupid and simple, the average ignorant viewer can predict their actions and ideas and feel that they have a dominion over it. When they feel like they understand another person's life better than that person does, it fills a need in their mind to experience companionship.

Aaaand that's why regular people creep the **** out of celebrities, because they follow the lives of famous people so they register that they've got a social life. The celebrities' have no relation to the person, they know nothing about these fans, but the fans have been following the celebrities in a way that makes them feel like they're pals.

It's not something to feel bad about. You should pity the people that lack self-confidence enough to be sucked into these kind of parallels of societal standard. They can't feel good about themselves unless a majority class actually generically approves of their behaviors.

John Galt · 01-24-2011, 12:38 PM

It's not often that CSM and I agree on something.

**** Jersey Shore. **** reality television.

***Marilink*** · 01-24-2011, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

^Sorry, but when I read the news to find out what's going on around the world, particularly in Africa and Asia, I don't want to see a bunch of sleazebags parading across the front page being "party animals" and being able to record an album just because of their fame (even though I'm probably better at guitar than they are at singing (and I REALLY WANT TO PLAY IN A BAND AND WRITE MY OWN MUSIC), things start to become a problem. -CSM

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sorry, that was bugging me

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 01-24-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazyswordsman

Seriously. I don't understand how anyone can respect people like the Situation or Snooky or whoever else is on that show (my brother loves the Situation) when all they do is go to tanning salons and fight all the time and do nothing productive with their lives. Meanwhile, most people are struggling with work or even to find a job (and are in most cases far more productive), and don't get anywhere near the amount of respect that the cast of Jersey Shore gets. I feel like society treats us as second-class as opposed to people on Jersey Shore. -CSM

(and I've only seen the show once at a friend's house and I intend to never see it again)

Putting it blunt for you here mate. Complaining about people born into wealthiness to do that is like pissing into a sea of piss. Society always has and always will respect those with $$$, no matter what gigantic pricks they are. But feeling sorry for yourself (and believe me, I'm in that situation right now, being jobless and struggling to find work, so I know exactly how you may feel) is no way to gain respect either, to get respect from others you must first respect yourself.

Kargath · 01-25-2011, 03:06 AM

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sorry, that was bugging me

Welcome to the land of LISP, enjoy your new beard

01-23-2011, 03:26 PM	#1
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	People who respect the kind of people on "Jersey Shore" more than people like me. Seriously. I don't understand how anyone can respect people like the Situation or Snooky or whoever else is on that show (my brother loves the Situation) when all they do is go to tanning salons and fight all the time and do nothing productive with their lives. Meanwhile, most people are struggling with work or even to find a job (and are in most cases far more productive), and don't get anywhere near the amount of respect that the cast of Jersey Shore gets. I feel like society treats us as second-class as opposed to people on Jersey Shore. -CSM (and I've only seen the show once at a friend's house and I intend to never see it again)

01-23-2011, 04:41 PM	#6
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Jersey Shore? The show about herpes? This image will be reposted in every topic with Jersey Shore in the title.

01-23-2011, 03:36 PM	#2
Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	I made a thread about this earlier. I don't really understand how anybody on that show could be considered "respectable".

01-23-2011, 03:48 PM	#3
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Because people see them as role models. These people also want to be considered role models. -CSM

01-23-2011, 04:16 PM	#4
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	Are they really seen as role-models? I was under the impression Jersey Shore was created to make everybody else feel better about themselves.

01-23-2011, 06:33 PM	#7
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	Herpes nest is still one of my new favourite insults.

01-23-2011, 07:41 PM	#8
Jailbreaker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Not in jail anymore, yay! Gender: Posts: 3,482 Thanks: 1,074 Thanked 185 Times in 118 Posts	I've heard of this show. I've heard it's kind of like Paris Hilton. The people are famous for nothing.

01-23-2011, 07:49 PM	#9
Glux Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Home Gender: Posts: 7,122 Thanks: 647 Thanked 360 Times in 236 Posts Blog Entries: 3	^ Don't forget the Kardashians.

01-23-2011, 09:35 PM	#11
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	It's all a perspective, dood. You and me, and the rest of us, we're average normal people, nothing special going for us in this media-saturated society. Those guys are on the almighty television. That instantly makes them Other. Special. Something that the bored, disillusioned, ignorant masses MUST watch. It's all created. Fictional bull**. Those folks on the TV are ***s built up to be famous and important to all the normal, average ****s in the world. In short, it's up to you to not give a damn*. We all know for a fact that the pretense behind TV is to sell you a product. They're selling people, "personalities". You don't have to buy into it, and you don't have to let it get you down that they are an invented celebrity. Shrug it off. They don't mean anything. They are just other people with more recognition. It's hardly "respect"; you just live your life and have confidence in yourself, and that's the only thing of significance here.

01-23-2011, 09:38 PM	#12
Crazyswordsman This key doesn't work. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 10,791 Thanks: 1,019 Thanked 686 Times in 467 Posts	^Sorry, but when I read the news to find out what's going on around the world, particularly in Africa and Asia, I don't want to see a bunch of sleazebags parading across the front page being "party animals" and being able to record an album just because of their fame (even though I'm probably better at guitar than they are at singing (and I REALLY WANT TO PLAY IN A BAND AND WRITE MY OWN MUSIC), things start to become a problem. -CSM

01-23-2011, 10:04 PM	#13
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	And I don't like imagining that something like Twilight is considered a definitive book series of the modern era, and that Meyer can make hundreds of thousands of dollars off of it when I can write better than that, but may never get published due to the ridiculously competitive market. But the difference is, I NEVER EVER feel like I'm less because of it. I know my worth. Their marketing doesn't make me doubt myself or consider I'm not respected or valued.

01-23-2011, 10:07 PM	#14
Totally Kennerson Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Falling down all these stairs Gender: Posts: 2,116 Thanks: 340 Thanked 406 Times in 136 Posts Blog Entries: 1	If it makes you feel any better, I have no idea what Jersey Shore is.

01-24-2011, 05:52 AM	#16
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	People want to know about them because they are dynamic, unrealistic flakes. That's it. It's called drama - people typically behaving in an exaggerated fashion that typically results in absurd mistakes and damaged relationships. More importantly, the characters on that kind of show are so stupid and simple, the average ignorant viewer can predict their actions and ideas and feel that they have a dominion over it. When they feel like they understand another person's life better than that person does, it fills a need in their mind to experience companionship. Aaaand that's why regular people creep the **** out of celebrities, because they follow the lives of famous people so they register that they've got a social life. The celebrities' have no relation to the person, they know nothing about these fans, but the fans have been following the celebrities in a way that makes them feel like they're pals. It's not something to feel bad about. You should pity the people that lack self-confidence enough to be sucked into these kind of parallels of societal standard. They can't feel good about themselves unless a majority class actually generically approves of their behaviors.

01-24-2011, 12:38 PM	#17
John Galt Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Little Ireland Gender: Posts: 490 Thanks: 20 Thanked 32 Times in 20 Posts	It's not often that CSM and I agree on something. ** Jersey Shore. ** reality television.