"Heroes": Is it worth my time? - Page 4

Swordmaster Link · 04-28-2009, 01:40 PM

Wow.

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Minus Angela's convincing howl of agony, that was a piss poor season finale. And before anyone says it, I'm not even mad about the faux fight scene, I thought that was pretty clever actually.

PandaFan :3 · 04-28-2009, 02:23 PM

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I don't see how they had to keep Sylar alive... at all. I mean, if you're talking about talking to the president about all this, you had MATT PARKMAN WHO CAN CONVINCE PEOPLE TO DO THINGS telling Sylar to be Nathan. HE COULD JUST CONVINCE GOVERNMENT AGENTS TO LET HIM TALK TO THE PRESIDENT. Though of course, with Sylar's "new spot", they wouldn't know where to put whatever used to kill him, but damn it, letting him go freely and walk around (we already know that he's capable of overcoming other peoples' powers, so i don't see how Matt's mind control would be very different) is just stupid. Overall good season, overall terrible finale.

***CaptHayfever*** · 04-28-2009, 03:28 PM

^
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He was able to overcome his father because he was much, much healthier. He was able to overcome the Haitian because the Haitian was busy suppressing all of Papatrelli's powers at once. He was able to overcome Doyle because his telekinesis is less limited, & he has better mastery of it.
Last night, though, Sylar was completely unconsious, & Matt went at him full-throttle. Also notice that Peter was able to best Sylar's shapeshifting via the element of surprise.

I missed the first half; did they explain what happened to Hiro at all?

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

PandaFan :3 · 04-28-2009, 03:38 PM

^ Spoiler Below

not really, all that they said was HIRO DON'T USE YOUR POWER YOU GET HURT and hiro says NO IT IS DESTINY and uses his power and gets hurt

Swordmaster Link · 04-30-2009, 10:08 PM

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back to japan kbye

***CaptHayfever*** · 05-01-2009, 01:02 AM

^Yeah, I saw that part; that was at the end.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Sean P Kelly** · 05-04-2009, 10:43 PM

In a case of 20/20 hindsight, I'm curious on how the show would be if they stuck with the original plan of having a rotating cast.

Since there are some characters (i.e. Matt Parkman) who have been in limbo in the storylines (and it was obvious that Parkman was supposed to have been killed off in the first season finale -- who survives four bullets to the chest?)

Swordmaster Link · 05-04-2009, 11:03 PM

I didn't even know that was the original plan...eh, I think if they rotated a large chunk of the characters that would've worked well, but the main problem with the show is the increasing focus on the powers and not the characters.

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Also, I hate to say it but Quinto leaving the show is probably a good thing. Sylar was WAY over-played (and too powerful).

***CaptHayfever*** · 05-05-2009, 09:53 AM

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But now we have to see more of that puffy-snowsuit-arms-sticking-out walk Nathan does.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Greenpee · 06-13-2009, 11:52 AM

I loved Heroes and then it lost me sometime this season. Just piping up. I think just watching the first season is enough, then it's just more of the same, and they do things with the characters that you just don't want them to (Sylar!).

**Deku Trii** · 11-03-2009, 12:12 AM

Hiro called Charlie the Marle to his Crono. Good times.

PandaFan :3 · 11-03-2009, 11:15 AM

^ seriously? I need to watch that episode right now.

***CaptHayfever*** · 01-12-2010, 08:43 PM

For those who have been wondering...
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Even on the brink of death, with his brains scrambled & his powers gone haywire, Hiro continues to be awesome.

That is all.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Lurch1982 · 02-13-2010, 08:00 PM

Ok I actually watched this on Netflix over the past month and caught up completely (in order) to the end of the current season.

Season 1 was good. 2 was ok. 3 took too long to get to the point. 4 was awful. I did this over 3 weeks. In that span my opinion went from "this show is great how did I miss this" to "please god cancel this show."

**Deku Trii** · 02-13-2010, 11:06 PM

I kinda thought seasons 2 and 3 were a bunch of bull****, but liked season 4. Well, except for most of the Claire stuff, as usual.

Lurch1982 · 02-14-2010, 12:03 AM

I thought the pacing in 4 was absolutely horrible. It didn't pick up and go anywhere until the last 4 episodes. The premise was retarded to begin with, and it only showed that the bulk of the cast should have been killed off by now. Parkman is just jamming the gas with the car in neutral at this point, Claire is an exercise of "oh ****, we went 4 seasons and forgot that she was supposed to be a teenager, and left out all of the teenager stuff like social life and boyfriends," Sylar should have either been killed off early on or turned good by midway Season 3 latest (the waffling on that was horrible), Peter's mom isn't going anywhere anymore, Peter's ok, Hiro needs to either die or lose time travel power because time traveling is a horrible plot device, HRG is stupid outside the company, etc. Also, the idiot that thought up the Carnival in the first place should be fired and blacklisted. Bad idea with even worse execution.

It kind of bugs me that the only people they've killed off are the INTERESTING characters.

Swordmaster Link · 02-14-2010, 03:26 AM

I'm done with this show. Though this season wasn't as bad as 2 IMO, the pacing was terrible and the plot resolutions were anti-climactic, which I have come to learn are staples of the show.

anny · 03-17-2010, 04:17 AM

Heroes is a serial saga about people all over the world discovering that

they have superpowers and trying to deal with how this change affects

their lives. Some of the superheroes who will be introduced to the

viewing audience include Peter Petrelli, an almost 30-something male

nurse who suspects.......
As the season has gone so far, does the show deserve one more season?

***CaptHayfever*** · 03-17-2010, 02:46 PM

Yeah, I think one more short season could work, to see how things pan out with Claire blowing cover & Sylar wanting to be a bona fide superhero now.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

03-17-2010, 04:17 AM	#78
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04-28-2009, 01:40 PM	#61
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04-28-2009, 02:23 PM	#62
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04-28-2009, 03:28 PM	#63
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04-28-2009, 03:38 PM	#64
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04-30-2009, 10:08 PM	#65
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05-01-2009, 01:02 AM	#66
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05-04-2009, 10:43 PM	#67
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05-04-2009, 11:03 PM	#68
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05-05-2009, 09:53 AM	#69
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06-13-2009, 11:52 AM	#70
Greenpee Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 71 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 11,215.87 Bank: 520.20 Total Points: 11,736.07 Donate	I loved Heroes and then it lost me sometime this season. Just piping up. I think just watching the first season is enough, then it's just more of the same, and they do things with the characters that you just don't want them to (Sylar!).

11-03-2009, 12:12 AM	#71
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11-03-2009, 11:15 AM	#72
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01-12-2010, 08:43 PM	#73
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02-13-2010, 08:00 PM	#74
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: DenCo Gender: Posts: 9,806 Thanks: 127 Thanked 364 Times in 191 Posts Points: 64,637.31 Bank: 14,584,113.27 Total Points: 14,648,750.58 Donate	Ok I actually watched this on Netflix over the past month and caught up completely (in order) to the end of the current season. Season 1 was good. 2 was ok. 3 took too long to get to the point. 4 was awful. I did this over 3 weeks. In that span my opinion went from "this show is great how did I miss this" to "please god cancel this show."

02-13-2010, 11:06 PM	#75
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02-14-2010, 12:03 AM	#76
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: DenCo Gender: Posts: 9,806 Thanks: 127 Thanked 364 Times in 191 Posts Points: 64,637.31 Bank: 14,584,113.27 Total Points: 14,648,750.58 Donate	I thought the pacing in 4 was absolutely horrible. It didn't pick up and go anywhere until the last 4 episodes. The premise was retarded to begin with, and it only showed that the bulk of the cast should have been killed off by now. Parkman is just jamming the gas with the car in neutral at this point, Claire is an exercise of "oh ****, we went 4 seasons and forgot that she was supposed to be a teenager, and left out all of the teenager stuff like social life and boyfriends," Sylar should have either been killed off early on or turned good by midway Season 3 latest (the waffling on that was horrible), Peter's mom isn't going anywhere anymore, Peter's ok, Hiro needs to either die or lose time travel power because time traveling is a horrible plot device, HRG is stupid outside the company, etc. Also, the idiot that thought up the Carnival in the first place should be fired and blacklisted. Bad idea with even worse execution. It kind of bugs me that the only people they've killed off are the INTERESTING characters.

02-14-2010, 03:26 AM	#77
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03-17-2010, 02:46 PM	#79
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 23,047 Thanks: 790 Thanked 1,733 Times in 1,003 Posts Points: 195,069.42 Bank: 205,789.02 Total Points: 400,858.44 Donate	Yeah, I think one more short season could work, to see how things pan out with Claire blowing cover & Sylar wanting to be a bona fide superhero now. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"