American Idol Contreversey? - VGF

04-28-2004, 09:13 PM

Well, I think somethin's up with it (BTW, Diane DeGarmo goes to my old school, Shiloh High)
Jennifer Hudson was cheated last week, she, Fantasia nor Latoya should have been in the bottom three, it should have been John, Jasmine, and George (dont get me wrong George and Jasmine are good, just not the top 3, John just SUCKED)
Anyway, what's your opinoin on it, I think the voting need's to be 1/line. And "America" is NOT judging on style, only pity, and as my cousin says, race

theflyingfish · 04-28-2004, 09:20 PM

The whole fiasco just seemed fishy to me. The way they presented it, and those fake-looking expressions on the faces of Jennifer, John and George really made it seem like the whole thing was rigged to get ratings.

The only feasible alternative idea that I've heard is that people voted for John, Jasmine and Diana because they felt the others were safe, and they wanted to make sure these three stayed in the competition.

[ April 28, 2004, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: The Flying Fish ]

Dee Emm · 04-28-2004, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by I Am The Rubberband Man_Andre:
(BTW, Diane DeGarmo goes to my old school, Shiloh High)

Woah, you went to Shiloh? Hm. Didn't know that.

04-28-2004, 11:19 PM

^ Really? Ollie (Toad556) Still goes to Shiloh (Middle)

**Wyborn** · 04-29-2004, 12:40 AM

I like Jasmine's singing.

04-29-2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by I Am The Rubberband Man_Andre:
and as my cousin says, race

No. Please don't bring that up.

theflyingfish · 04-29-2004, 01:46 PM

He's not the only one that thinks that race is becoming a factor. Some of the radio DJs around here have been talking a lot about how Jennifer got the axe because she was black, which is absurd considering all of the top finalists (LaToya, Fantasia, and George to an extent) are black. If anything, race isn't as much a factor as looks and personality (which, obviously, shouldn't be as important as the vocals either, although it would help for the next "American Idol" to be likeable).

As a whole, though, the whole competition is starting to get too heated. Not between the contestants (they seem fine with each other), but between their fans. I heard that one of the contestants (I'm guessing John Stevens, since so many people dislike him) got a death threat from someone because they thought that he should have been voted off instead of Jennifer. The whole thing is crazy; a large amount of people don't seem to realize that it's meant to be entertainment. This isn't the next US President that's going to be chosen here, just what is supposed to be the next music superstar. If people don't like who's chosen, they should just go buy the music of the contestant they thought should have won (it's not as if none of the finalists except the winner will be barred from releasing a CD, it just will probably more a bit more difficult).

04-29-2004, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by The Flying Fish:
I heard that one of the contestants (I'm guessing John Stevens, since so many people dislike him) got a death threat from someone because they thought that he should have been voted off instead of Jennifer.

That's kinda sad. Every contestant is fighting for their survival. What is he going to say? "Don't vote for me!!!"? He can't do anything about it.

04-29-2004, 03:52 PM

^^ I bet you that at least 8 of these 12 are going to have music deals by the end of 2005, if one wins, that doesnt mean the others cant be signed

04-29-2004, 03:55 PM

Race IS a factor. Most America is white. Hence John Stevens being there as long as he was. He should have made one cut MAYBE. Same thing with John Peter. What Jennifer's problem was that she was an intimidating black female, her singing was always good enough.

04-29-2004, 04:43 PM

Simon Cowell sucks.

And is it just me, or does American Idol resemble the Gong show in a sense?

[ April 29, 2004, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: Beam Yosho the Drunkard ]

Cap'n Boo from Timbuktu · 04-30-2004, 10:32 PM

I'm just waiting for the day that Simon says the wrong thing to some guy, and the guy friggin' punches Simon's lights out and takes a crap on his chest. Hell, forget about catching the guy; the cops'd all be laughing too hard to chase him down.

Lemonjello · 05-01-2004, 07:12 AM

People need to stop turning everything into race and start blaming their own problems on, oh, perhaps...THEMSELVES?! Shcoking indeed.

btw i think simon is racist against asians just look at william hung[/sarcasm tagline since some people here actaully need it]

[ May 01, 2004, 07:22 AM: Message edited by: ********** Setzer ]

05-01-2004, 10:30 AM

American Idol sucks, anyway.

Watch CC, yo.

05-01-2004, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by ********** Setzer:
People need to stop turning everything into race and start blaming their own problems on, oh, perhaps...THEMSELVES?! Shcoking indeed.

btw i think simon is racist against asians just look at william hung[/sarcasm tagline since some people here actaully need it]

What the hell does this have to do with people, learn some **** then tell us how to run our ****in lives iight?

05-02-2004, 10:03 AM

I don't watch the show, but has that john stevens dude been voted off yet?

theflyingfish · 05-04-2004, 10:55 AM

Yeah, last week.

05-04-2004, 07:05 PM

I used to watch it a couple weeks ago but I just lost interest. I did like John Stevens a bit why does every one not like the guy?

05-04-2004, 09:24 PM

Its not that he can't sing,
It's just not his type of music

theflyingfish · 05-05-2004, 09:59 AM

Yeah, he could pretty much only sing jazzy sort of stuff, but what he could sing he sang well. I liked how he had a fresh sound. I mean, if you're going to model your voice after someone famous (like several of the finalists have seemed to have done; Jennifer sounded like a young Whitney Houston, and Fantasia sounds like Macy Gray but better), I'd rather it be someone like Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin than yet another Whitney Houston or Celin Dion.

04-28-2004, 09:13 PM	#1
RKM89 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Well, I think somethin's up with it (BTW, Diane DeGarmo goes to my old school, Shiloh High) Jennifer Hudson was cheated last week, she, Fantasia nor Latoya should have been in the bottom three, it should have been John, Jasmine, and George (dont get me wrong George and Jasmine are good, just not the top 3, John just SUCKED) Anyway, what's your opinoin on it, I think the voting need's to be 1/line. And "America" is NOT judging on style, only pity, and as my cousin says, race

04-28-2004, 09:20 PM	#2
theflyingfish Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The far side of Fribbulus Xax Posts: 7,386 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,238.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,738.00 Donate	The whole fiasco just seemed fishy to me. The way they presented it, and those fake-looking expressions on the faces of Jennifer, John and George really made it seem like the whole thing was rigged to get ratings. The only feasible alternative idea that I've heard is that people voted for John, Jasmine and Diana because they felt the others were safe, and they wanted to make sure these three stayed in the competition. [ April 28, 2004, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: The Flying Fish ]

04-28-2004, 11:19 PM	#4
RKM89 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	^ Really? Ollie (Toad556) Still goes to Shiloh (Middle)

04-29-2004, 12:40 AM	#5
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,325 Thanks: 85 Thanked 439 Times in 270 Posts Points: 13,490.55 Bank: 67,396.13 Total Points: 80,886.68 Donate	I like Jasmine's singing.

04-29-2004, 01:46 PM	#7
theflyingfish Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The far side of Fribbulus Xax Posts: 7,386 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,238.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,738.00 Donate	He's not the only one that thinks that race is becoming a factor. Some of the radio DJs around here have been talking a lot about how Jennifer got the axe because she was black, which is absurd considering all of the top finalists (LaToya, Fantasia, and George to an extent) are black. If anything, race isn't as much a factor as looks and personality (which, obviously, shouldn't be as important as the vocals either, although it would help for the next "American Idol" to be likeable). As a whole, though, the whole competition is starting to get too heated. Not between the contestants (they seem fine with each other), but between their fans. I heard that one of the contestants (I'm guessing John Stevens, since so many people dislike him) got a death threat from someone because they thought that he should have been voted off instead of Jennifer. The whole thing is crazy; a large amount of people don't seem to realize that it's meant to be entertainment. This isn't the next US President that's going to be chosen here, just what is supposed to be the next music superstar. If people don't like who's chosen, they should just go buy the music of the contestant they thought should have won (it's not as if none of the finalists except the winner will be barred from releasing a CD, it just will probably more a bit more difficult).

04-29-2004, 03:52 PM	#9
RKM89 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	^^ I bet you that at least 8 of these 12 are going to have music deals by the end of 2005, if one wins, that doesnt mean the others cant be signed

04-29-2004, 03:55 PM	#10
Brandon2390 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Race IS a factor. Most America is white. Hence John Stevens being there as long as he was. He should have made one cut MAYBE. Same thing with John Peter. What Jennifer's problem was that she was an intimidating black female, her singing was always good enough.

04-29-2004, 04:43 PM	#11
BeamYosho Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Simon Cowell sucks. And is it just me, or does American Idol resemble the Gong show in a sense? [ April 29, 2004, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: Beam Yosho the Drunkard ]

04-30-2004, 10:32 PM	#12
Cap'n Boo from Timbuktu Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Posts: 3,643 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 24.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 24.00 Donate	I'm just waiting for the day that Simon says the wrong thing to some guy, and the guy friggin' punches Simon's lights out and takes a crap on his chest. Hell, forget about catching the guy; the cops'd all be laughing too hard to chase him down.

05-01-2004, 07:12 AM	#13
Lemonjello Used to be cool. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mother Russia Posts: 313 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 781.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,281.00 Donate	People need to stop turning everything into race and start blaming their own problems on, oh, perhaps...THEMSELVES?! Shcoking indeed. btw i think simon is racist against asians just look at william hung[/sarcasm tagline since some people here actaully need it] [ May 01, 2004, 07:22 AM: Message edited by: ********** Setzer ]

05-01-2004, 10:30 AM	#14
AccumulatedPower? Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	American Idol sucks, anyway. Watch CC, yo.

05-02-2004, 10:03 AM	#16
homer Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	I don't watch the show, but has that john stevens dude been voted off yet?

05-04-2004, 10:55 AM	#17
theflyingfish Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The far side of Fribbulus Xax Posts: 7,386 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,238.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,738.00 Donate	Yeah, last week.

05-04-2004, 07:05 PM	#18
horsegirl Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	I used to watch it a couple weeks ago but I just lost interest. I did like John Stevens a bit why does every one not like the guy?

05-04-2004, 09:24 PM	#19
RKM89 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Its not that he can't sing, It's just not his type of music

05-05-2004, 09:59 AM	#20
theflyingfish Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The far side of Fribbulus Xax Posts: 7,386 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,238.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,738.00 Donate	Yeah, he could pretty much only sing jazzy sort of stuff, but what he could sing he sang well. I liked how he had a fresh sound. I mean, if you're going to model your voice after someone famous (like several of the finalists have seemed to have done; Jennifer sounded like a young Whitney Houston, and Fantasia sounds like Macy Gray but better), I'd rather it be someone like Frank Sinatra or Dean Martin than yet another Whitney Houston or Celin Dion.