Glee Creator Gets Pissy at Not Getting His Way

***CaptHayfever*** · 01-28-2011, 12:20 AM

'Glee' Creator Lashes Out Against Kings of Leon and Slash | Rolling Stone Music

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'Glee' Creator Lashes Out Against Kings of Leon and Slash
By Matthew Perpetua
JANUARY 26, 2011 9:45 AM EDT

Glee creator Ryan Murphy has attacked Kings of Leon for publicly rejecting an offer to have their music in an episode of the hit series. In an interview with the Hollywood Reporter, Murphy said that the band are "self-centered *******s" and that they "missed the big picture."

So what is the big picture? According to Murphy, the band are missing the opportunity to inspire kids to get involved with the arts. "A 7-year-old kid can see someone close to their age singing a Kings of Leon song, which will maybe make them want to join a glee club or pick up a musical instrument," Murphy explained. "It’s like, OK, hate on arts education. You can make fun of Glee all you want, but at its heart, what we really do is turn kids on to music.”

Kings of Leon frontman Caleb Followill was contacted for response by the Hollywood Reporter and mostly seemed confused by Murphy's anger. "This whole Glee thing is a shock to us," he told THR. "At the time of the request, we hadn’t even seen the show. It came at the end of that record cycle, and we were over promoting [“Use Somebody”]."

Followill further clarified that his band did not intend to snub the show and its fans, much less disrespect anyone involved in music education.

Murphy also responded to a recent attack on the show by Guns N' Roses guitarist Slash, who had also rejected a request to use his old band's music on Glee on the grounds that he — well, totally hates the show. "Usually I find that people who make those comments, their careers are over; they’re uneducated and quite stupid," Murphy said.

What a self-absorbed baby.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

ZeldaGirl · 01-28-2011, 12:31 AM

I'm 'meh' on the issue. KoL's response was a bit uncalled for, as he made a kind of homophobic tweet that was really inappropriate, but I can't stand Ryan Murphy, and have a love/hate relationship with Glee. Started strong, but has dissolved into a pile of rubbish with nonsensical plots that mainly cater to fans every whims. Also, Ryan Murphy is apparently okay with marginalizing disability, gender, or race, but is okay climbing on a high horse when it comes to gay rights (that in itself isn't bad, it's the appalling treatment of other characters that is).

For a guy who preaches that his show is so 'tolerate' and progressive, it sure is offensive on a bunch of other levels.

Rainbow Dash · 01-28-2011, 12:40 AM

community is better~

Bomby · 01-28-2011, 01:03 AM

My favorite:

YouTube - Damon Albarn Slams 'Glee' on Q TV

***Cosmonautical*** · 01-28-2011, 05:38 AM

I was pretty sure Glee was a good way to get people to hate music. I know I have an instant gag reflex every time I'm exposed to it that can only be solved by leaving the room or changing the channel.

Stuff like Glee rips the soul out of song-writing and turns it into a commercial product. I lolled at the Slash part; the guy is a counter-culture guitar legend, whose antithesis is **** like Glee.

Robotazy · 01-28-2011, 09:16 AM

Huh. And the commercials made it seem like it was full of wit.

Oh well.

ZeldaGirl · 01-28-2011, 10:39 AM

^It started off that way, and it certainly has it's moments still. But Ryan Murphy has no consistent or clear vision, so what you get week to week is vastly different in style and substance, and that really hurts the show. It can't decide if it's satire or an after-school special.

That, and how the writers handle certain social issues are highly problematic.

Fairlight Excalibur · 01-28-2011, 11:00 AM

I hardly think Slash's career is over.

But honestly, why would Murphy have expected a yes from someone whose image is totally counter to Glee?

Panfan · 01-28-2011, 11:39 AM

1. First season of Glee was alright. I don't really care for it anymore at all.
2. I thought it seemed like Nathan Followil (the guy who tweeted in response to Murphy) was comparing him to a little girl than being homophobic, but it could definitely be interpreted either way.
3. Ryan Murphy is a douchebag.
4. Do we really want 7 year old kids being turned onto a band whose second biggest hit is called "Sex on Fire"? Just saying...
5. Slash definitely still has a career. Last decade he played with one of the bigger mainstream rock acts and released a successful solo album last year.

ZeldaGirl · 01-28-2011, 02:30 PM

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I thought it seemed like Nathan Followil (the guy who tweeted in response to Murphy) was comparing him to a little girl than being homophobic, but it could definitely be interpreted either way.

Well, given that Ryan Murphy *is* gay, telling him to go off and get a manicure and "get a new bra" is kind of especially inappropriate. Heck, now I think on it more, it's offensive to both gay individuals and women.

Either way, both parties are not cool.

I leave you all with this:

An Open Letter to Ryan Murphy and Nathan Followill | Ology

***CaptHayfever*** · 01-28-2011, 02:36 PM

I've seen a handful of episodes. A few were pretty good (though one of those was guest-directed by Whedon, who brought in a ringer guest-actor, NPH), & a few were terrible. I just can't get over the fact that the only characters who actually aren't evil, conniving douches are portrayed as stupid (Finn) or repressed (Emma). Heck, even one of the stupid characters still manages to be a manipulative bleep (Brittany)!

No matter my opinion about the show, though, Murphy must be out of his mind to think that everyone he asks for music is gonna enthusiastically say yes.

[Edit: ^

Awesome find, Zig.]

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 01-31-2011, 02:50 AM

Terribad show. Terribad director.

Kargath · 01-31-2011, 03:34 AM

Efficiency time!

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Originally Posted by Kargath

I'm not a fan.
Cardboard characters with little appeal, weak plotting, people breaking out into song - as show, it's like someone decided to make a show from a distillation of everything I find wrong with Disney movies.

Jere · 01-31-2011, 04:15 AM

Anyone suggesting that Slash career is over really should compare where slash is today and what Guns n Roses are doing.

And could somebody please give me a fingerpointer to what this is all about i seem to have missed something.

Allso Slash plays in Velvet Revolver since a couple of years back, haven't seen him with GnR for about a decade or more.

Fairlight Excalibur · 01-31-2011, 05:20 PM

^The quote in Capt's post and the article ZG linked to sum it up fairly well, and the article is not very large.

Basically, multiple parties all being d-bags to various degrees.

**Valigarmander** · 01-31-2011, 05:21 PM

I saw this show once.

Didn't really appeal to me.

Luigiman7 · 01-31-2011, 07:48 PM

He shouldn't be getting so pissy. If they say no, they say no.

Also, I don't care for the show. Spoiler Below

Only Matthew Morrison. <3

***Booyakasha*** · 02-01-2011, 02:56 AM

One of my pals up at camp is a huge fan of 'Glee', and he very emphatically recommended I avoid it, as he was reasonably sure I'd hate its filthy guts. It's nice to have friends like that.

***CaptHayfever*** · 03-23-2011, 01:01 AM

Bumped for Dave Grohl.

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Dave Grohl Blasts 'Glee' Creator Ryan Murphy
Foo Fighters frontman says bands should not be pressured to be featured on the show

By Us Weekly
MARCH 18, 2011 3:40 PM ET

Finn and Rachel won't be singing "Everlong" any time soon.

Foo Fighters front man Dave Grohl doesn't believe bands should feel pressured to allow their music to be performed on Glee.

"It's every band's right, you shouldn't have to do ****ing Glee," Grohl, 42, told The Hollywood Reporter. "Dude, maybe not everyone loves Glee. Me included. I watched 10 minutes and it wasn't my thing."

But the former Nirvana drummer directed most of his ire at Ryan Murphy, the creator of the Fox hit, who earlier this year made disparaging remarks about the Kings of Leon and Guns N' Roses legend Slash after they refused to lend their music to the program.

"The guy who created Glee is so offended that we're not, like, begging to be on his ****ing show," said Grohl. "**** that guy for thinking anybody and everybody should want to do Glee."

So yeah.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

***Cosmonautical*** · 03-23-2011, 01:12 AM

Grohl amuses me, as a person. He's generally got his head in the right place. If only he could write music I liked anymore.

01-28-2011, 05:38 AM	#5
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	I was pretty sure Glee was a good way to get people to hate music. I know I have an instant gag reflex every time I'm exposed to it that can only be solved by leaving the room or changing the channel. Stuff like Glee rips the soul out of song-writing and turns it into a commercial product. I lolled at the Slash part; the guy is a counter-culture guitar legend, whose antithesis is **** like Glee. Last edited by Cosmonautical; 01-28-2011 at 05:44 AM.

01-31-2011, 07:48 PM	#17
Luigiman7 ヽ(◔ ◡ ◔)ノ.･ﾟ*｡･+☆ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ~)´◡｀(~ Gender: Posts: 17,605 Thanks: 1,134 Thanked 1,012 Times in 713 Posts Blog Entries: 8	He shouldn't be getting so pissy. If they say no, they say no. Also, I don't care for the show. Spoiler Below Only Matthew Morrison. <3 __________________ ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ＷＯＮ’Ｔ　ＹＯＵ　ＢＥＣＯＭＥ　Ａ　ＭＡＧＩＣＡＬ　ＧＩＲＬ？

01-28-2011, 12:31 AM	#2
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	I'm 'meh' on the issue. KoL's response was a bit uncalled for, as he made a kind of homophobic tweet that was really inappropriate, but I can't stand Ryan Murphy, and have a love/hate relationship with Glee. Started strong, but has dissolved into a pile of rubbish with nonsensical plots that mainly cater to fans every whims. Also, Ryan Murphy is apparently okay with marginalizing disability, gender, or race, but is okay climbing on a high horse when it comes to gay rights (that in itself isn't bad, it's the appalling treatment of other characters that is). For a guy who preaches that his show is so 'tolerate' and progressive, it sure is offensive on a bunch of other levels.

01-28-2011, 12:40 AM	#3
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Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	My favorite: YouTube - Damon Albarn Slams 'Glee' on Q TV

01-28-2011, 09:16 AM	#6
Robotazy PRESS ANY KEY TO PANIC! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: A Tiny Shed Gender: Posts: 16,483 Thanks: 529 Thanked 1,254 Times in 897 Posts Blog Entries: 46	Huh. And the commercials made it seem like it was full of wit. Oh well.

01-28-2011, 10:39 AM	#7
ZeldaGirl Awesome member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 15,896 Thanks: 1,130 Thanked 1,919 Times in 1,046 Posts	^It started off that way, and it certainly has it's moments still. But Ryan Murphy has no consistent or clear vision, so what you get week to week is vastly different in style and substance, and that really hurts the show. It can't decide if it's satire or an after-school special. That, and how the writers handle certain social issues are highly problematic.

01-28-2011, 11:00 AM	#8
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I hardly think Slash's career is over. But honestly, why would Murphy have expected a yes from someone whose image is totally counter to Glee?

01-28-2011, 11:39 AM	#9
Panfan AND HE PRAYS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grayskull Gender: Posts: 18,806 Thanks: 1,405 Thanked 2,251 Times in 1,339 Posts Blog Entries: 15	1. First season of Glee was alright. I don't really care for it anymore at all. 2. I thought it seemed like Nathan Followil (the guy who tweeted in response to Murphy) was comparing him to a little girl than being homophobic, but it could definitely be interpreted either way. 3. Ryan Murphy is a douchebag. 4. Do we really want 7 year old kids being turned onto a band whose second biggest hit is called "Sex on Fire"? Just saying... 5. Slash definitely still has a career. Last decade he played with one of the bigger mainstream rock acts and released a successful solo album last year.

01-28-2011, 02:36 PM	#11
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	I've seen a handful of episodes. A few were pretty good (though one of those was guest-directed by Whedon, who brought in a ringer guest-actor, NPH), & a few were terrible. I just can't get over the fact that the only characters who actually aren't evil, conniving douches are portrayed as stupid (Finn) or repressed (Emma). Heck, even one of the stupid characters still manages to be a manipulative bleep (Brittany)! No matter my opinion about the show, though, Murphy must be out of his mind to think that everyone he asks for music is gonna enthusiastically say yes. [Edit: ^ Awesome find, Zig.] And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

01-31-2011, 02:50 AM	#12
LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT Videos Mod Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my pants Gender: Posts: 4,613 Thanks: 2,502 Thanked 767 Times in 422 Posts	Terribad show. Terribad director.

01-31-2011, 04:15 AM	#14
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,650 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Anyone suggesting that Slash career is over really should compare where slash is today and what Guns n Roses are doing. And could somebody please give me a fingerpointer to what this is all about i seem to have missed something. Allso Slash plays in Velvet Revolver since a couple of years back, haven't seen him with GnR for about a decade or more.

01-31-2011, 05:20 PM	#15
Fairlight Excalibur Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Gender: Posts: 880 Thanks: 72 Thanked 111 Times in 82 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^The quote in Capt's post and the article ZG linked to sum it up fairly well, and the article is not very large. Basically, multiple parties all being d-bags to various degrees.

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Valigarmander The Bee's Knees Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: The land of rain and trees (Oregon) Gender: Posts: 29,755 Thanks: 1,649 Thanked 5,701 Times in 2,581 Posts Blog Entries: 20	I saw this show once. Didn't really appeal to me.

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*Booyakasha* SuperMod of War Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wisconsinland Gender: Posts: 9,945 Thanks: 157 Thanked 1,481 Times in 763 Posts	One of my pals up at camp is a huge fan of 'Glee', and he very emphatically recommended I avoid it, as he was reasonably sure I'd hate its filthy guts. It's nice to have friends like that.

03-23-2011, 01:12 AM	#20
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Grohl amuses me, as a person. He's generally got his head in the right place. If only he could write music I liked anymore.