**** Viacom - Page 2

Guildmaster · 07-28-2008, 06:42 AM

I've found out what we should do.

YouTube - To Viacom, With Love...

DELICIOUS POISON · 07-28-2008, 09:58 AM

Consider it done.

wariovswario · 07-28-2008, 11:37 AM

Pirating videos is wrong, but it is also bad to demand access to everyone's personal information.

***CaptHayfever*** · 07-28-2008, 11:58 AM

...Is that Foamy?

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Maximum Spider · 07-28-2008, 02:12 PM

Guildmaster · 07-31-2008, 03:00 AM

Check it out.

YouTube - FALSE COPYRIGHT CLAIM BY YOU KNOW WHO!

DELICIOUS POISON · 07-31-2008, 09:33 AM

That guy has an annoying voice.

The copyright infringement is legit: he is using their logos. Dumbass.

Guildmaster · 07-31-2008, 09:36 AM

Of whom are you speaking of?
Certainly not me, I am merely keeping you informed.
And yes, it is annoying.

DELICIOUS POISON · 07-31-2008, 09:57 AM

Well, if it's you or something, then congratulations on your having made a grievous mistake. I was referring to the author of the video.

The "infringing" video contains trademarked logos. Without the owner's permission, it is technically in violation of said trademarks to reproduce the logos.

**Crazyswordsman** · 08-02-2008, 06:32 PM

Copyright is not in the Constitution. The right to privacy is implied by the Fourth Amendment, and there is an explicit right to free speech. If the government can't intrude, there's no way in hell big corporations can. -CSM

***CaptHayfever*** · 08-03-2008, 01:27 AM

^Copyright is in the law, though. You & AI are addressing completely different things.

That said: Fair Use Act.

Viacom is pursuing some legitimate infringment issues. But the company is also attacking home movies where somebody passes by a poster for a Paramount film, or telecasts of things Viacom doesn't own just because of the corner bug (which people would get rid of instantly if they could) signalling that it aired on a Viacom-owned network, or example clips used in legitimate works of criticism or parody. Basically, they're crippling their completely valid complaints by lumping it in with a bunch of utterly invalid complaints.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

DELICIOUS POISON · 08-03-2008, 02:52 AM

Yeah, they've gone way over the edge. I just thought it was ridiculous that someone would claim they had no right to claim infringement on his video, when that someone went out of his way to plaster their logos all over said video.

Inferno Dragon · 08-04-2008, 10:42 AM

^but the thing is they can't cry copyright infringement on a trademark. and by claiming copyright infringement over a trademark, like that logo, Viacom broke the law!

Click to view video.

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 08-04-2008, 10:49 AM

Actually they can, if it's thier Logo or Trademark.

Nintendo could totally shut down 10% of the internet for using their logo at any point, but they don't because they are nice.

Inferno Dragon · 08-04-2008, 11:03 AM

sorry tazzy, but viacom did commit a federal offense by filing a false copyright infringement claim against that youtube user. he was using a logo for the use of commentarry/news, which is fully legal and protected by the constitution.

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 08-04-2008, 11:05 AM

.....

He's not really a true news service. He's just a Youtube user with effects, so Viacom shut it down.

It's all about perspective really :/

wariovswario · 08-04-2008, 11:56 AM

Tazy is right. This guy is not a legitimate news source. Look at all of his videos. All they say is that Viacom is suing him. I don't think his complaint is legitimate either, because I can't find anything that doesn't cry "Viacom is deleting my channel". I think he really is just using this as a gimmick to get more views and to bring attention to himself.

Viacom has every right to shut down certain videos that show their stuff such as southpark episodes, weeds, etc. It is illegal to share like that.

If you see the new batman movie in full on Youtube and Viacom decides to shut it down because it's copyright infringement, should you feel sorry for the user and still be pissed off at Viacom? Whether you like it or not, the law is the law.

***CaptHayfever*** · 08-04-2008, 04:41 PM

^Actually, I would be pissed at Viacom for that, because it's not their movie, and thus, it's not their place to get it removed.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Crazyswordsman** · 08-04-2008, 05:11 PM

^^There's a HUGE difference between showing a whole episode of South Park online (which is done legally by Matt and Trey anyway, and would be copyright infringement if it was done otherwise) and talking about, making reference to, or making a parody of South Park, or even making a short South Park clip of your own to insert into your own original cartoon (all of which fall into the realms of free speech or fair dealing). -CSM

wariovswario · 08-04-2008, 05:34 PM

Well okay then. Why does Viacom decide to sue Youtube in the first place?

07-28-2008, 11:37 AM	#23
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08-04-2008, 11:56 AM	#37
wariovswario Godly Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 4,614 Thanks: 92 Thanked 98 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 17,916.54 Bank: 944,157.19 Total Points: 962,073.73 Donate	Tazy is right. This guy is not a legitimate news source. Look at all of his videos. All they say is that Viacom is suing him. I don't think his complaint is legitimate either, because I can't find anything that doesn't cry "Viacom is deleting my channel". I think he really is just using this as a gimmick to get more views and to bring attention to himself. Viacom has every right to shut down certain videos that show their stuff such as southpark episodes, weeds, etc. It is illegal to share like that. If you see the new batman movie in full on Youtube and Viacom decides to shut it down because it's copyright infringement, should you feel sorry for the user and still be pissed off at Viacom? Whether you like it or not, the law is the law. __________________ Click here to level up my card!

08-04-2008, 05:34 PM	#40
wariovswario Godly Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 4,614 Thanks: 92 Thanked 98 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 2 Points: 17,916.54 Bank: 944,157.19 Total Points: 962,073.73 Donate	Well okay then. Why does Viacom decide to sue Youtube in the first place? __________________ Click here to level up my card!

07-28-2008, 06:42 AM	#21
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07-28-2008, 09:58 AM	#22
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07-28-2008, 11:58 AM	#24
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07-28-2008, 02:12 PM	#25
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07-31-2008, 03:00 AM	#26
Guildmaster Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I'm Batman. Gender: Posts: 1,047 Thanks: 545 Thanked 38 Times in 33 Posts Points: 1,378.44 Bank: 1,681.12 Total Points: 3,059.56 Donate	Check it out. YouTube - FALSE COPYRIGHT CLAIM BY YOU KNOW WHO!

07-31-2008, 09:33 AM	#27
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,925 Thanks: 579 Thanked 1,777 Times in 873 Posts Points: 17,909.57 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,414.12 Donate	That guy has an annoying voice. The copyright infringement is legit: he is using their logos. Dumbass.

07-31-2008, 09:36 AM	#28
Guildmaster Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I'm Batman. Gender: Posts: 1,047 Thanks: 545 Thanked 38 Times in 33 Posts Points: 1,378.44 Bank: 1,681.12 Total Points: 3,059.56 Donate	Of whom are you speaking of? Certainly not me, I am merely keeping you informed. And yes, it is annoying.

07-31-2008, 09:57 AM	#29
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,925 Thanks: 579 Thanked 1,777 Times in 873 Posts Points: 17,909.57 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,414.12 Donate	Well, if it's you or something, then congratulations on your having made a grievous mistake. I was referring to the author of the video. The "infringing" video contains trademarked logos. Without the owner's permission, it is technically in violation of said trademarks to reproduce the logos.

08-02-2008, 06:32 PM	#30
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,578 Thanks: 633 Thanked 468 Times in 310 Posts Points: 166,867.08 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 244,642.62 Donate	Copyright is not in the Constitution. The right to privacy is implied by the Fourth Amendment, and there is an explicit right to free speech. If the government can't intrude, there's no way in hell big corporations can. -CSM

08-03-2008, 01:27 AM	#31
*CaptHayfever* Smash Supermod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 20,028 Thanks: 314 Thanked 1,015 Times in 615 Posts Points: 123,572.74 Bank: 2,638.67 Total Points: 126,211.40 Donate	^Copyright is in the law, though. You & AI are addressing completely different things. That said: Fair Use Act. Viacom is pursuing some legitimate infringment issues. But the company is also attacking home movies where somebody passes by a poster for a Paramount film, or telecasts of things Viacom doesn't own just because of the corner bug (which people would get rid of instantly if they could) signalling that it aired on a Viacom-owned network, or example clips used in legitimate works of criticism or parody. Basically, they're crippling their completely valid complaints by lumping it in with a bunch of utterly invalid complaints. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

08-03-2008, 02:52 AM	#32
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,925 Thanks: 579 Thanked 1,777 Times in 873 Posts Points: 17,909.57 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,414.12 Donate	Yeah, they've gone way over the edge. I just thought it was ridiculous that someone would claim they had no right to claim infringement on his video, when that someone went out of his way to plaster their logos all over said video.

08-04-2008, 10:49 AM	#34
STOP LOOKING AT ME Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: YOU SAID THAT YOU KNEW ME AND I BELIEVED YOU DID Gender: Posts: 9,247 Thanks: 267 Thanked 579 Times in 425 Posts Blog Entries: 7 Points: 6,557.14 Bank: 74,653.97 Total Points: 81,211.10 Donate	Actually they can, if it's thier Logo or Trademark. Nintendo could totally shut down 10% of the internet for using their logo at any point, but they don't because they are nice.

08-04-2008, 11:03 AM	#35
Inferno Dragon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Planet Draco Gender: Posts: 5,962 Thanks: 52 Thanked 33 Times in 26 Posts Points: 38,342.22 Bank: 31,881.39 Total Points: 70,223.61 Donate	sorry tazzy, but viacom did commit a federal offense by filing a false copyright infringement claim against that youtube user. he was using a logo for the use of commentarry/news, which is fully legal and protected by the constitution.

08-04-2008, 11:05 AM	#36
STOP LOOKING AT ME Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: YOU SAID THAT YOU KNEW ME AND I BELIEVED YOU DID Gender: Posts: 9,247 Thanks: 267 Thanked 579 Times in 425 Posts Blog Entries: 7 Points: 6,557.14 Bank: 74,653.97 Total Points: 81,211.10 Donate	..... He's not really a true news service. He's just a Youtube user with effects, so Viacom shut it down. It's all about perspective really :/

08-04-2008, 04:41 PM	#38
*CaptHayfever* Smash Supermod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 20,028 Thanks: 314 Thanked 1,015 Times in 615 Posts Points: 123,572.74 Bank: 2,638.67 Total Points: 126,211.40 Donate	^Actually, I would be pissed at Viacom for that, because it's not their movie, and thus, it's not their place to get it removed. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

08-04-2008, 05:11 PM	#39
Crazyswordsman RPG Mod Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Booyaville (yeah!) Gender: Posts: 8,578 Thanks: 633 Thanked 468 Times in 310 Posts Points: 166,867.08 Bank: 77,775.54 Total Points: 244,642.62 Donate	^^There's a HUGE difference between showing a whole episode of South Park online (which is done legally by Matt and Trey anyway, and would be copyright infringement if it was done otherwise) and talking about, making reference to, or making a parody of South Park, or even making a short South Park clip of your own to insert into your own original cartoon (all of which fall into the realms of free speech or fair dealing). -CSM