Cynicism has become cliche.

Bomby · 09-06-2009, 02:21 AM

I've been very cynical for quite some time, but in seeing how cynical people are, I've become cynical of cynicism, therefore somehow rendering me an idealist once again. Albeit, a very pessimistic idealist.

This is of course, going by the contemporary definitions of "cynicism," "idealism," and "pessimism."

Metal Man · 09-06-2009, 02:39 AM

I prefer to be pragmatic.

t3hDarkness · 09-06-2009, 02:47 AM

Are you tellin' tall tales again?

Bomby · 09-06-2009, 02:53 AM

I'm not sure. The threadstarterpost was really a broken thought which I really hope you understand what I mean but I won't blame you if you don't because I feel I didn't explain it too well.

t3hDarkness · 09-06-2009, 03:06 AM

To which will be replied with an equally broken though.
Transcendent Cynicism

I haven't figured out what it means yet, but you will be the first to know, or very likely the second, possibly the fifth.

***Cosmonautical*** · 09-06-2009, 06:37 AM

being concerned about cliches is cliche

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 09-06-2009, 07:12 AM

I'm not concerned enough with other people to care if I'm that much like them. I've been a cynical optimist for a long time, now.

**LASER BEAR ASSAULT UNIT** · 09-06-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds

I'm not concerned enough with other people to care if I'm that much like them. I've been a cynical optimist for a long time, now.

Pretty much same here. XD

Bomby · 09-06-2009, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MANLY RIPPLING MUSCLES

being concerned about cliches is cliche

In my case, it's more being disgusted by and/or growing tired of said cliches than being concerned about cliches. When it gets to the point where a movie that has a happy ending without killing off half the characters is automatically considered "not art," or any work in which someone overcomes a seemingly impossible situation is ridiculed for having such a plot no matter how well it's done (Slumdog Millionaire), I feel the right to complain about cynicism.

Like, seriously, for the most part, Demotivators were a lot funnier when they were being done by Despair, Inc. Then everyone and their mother started creating JPEG images in their style and it became overdone. What does this have to do with cynicism? I actually have no clue. But I felt like complaining about it.

Sim Kid · 09-06-2009, 02:56 PM

I call it the "Daria Effect". Being a goody two-shoes or someone who is never angry or sad is now "Gay" and "Stupid" and "Cliche" because "people can't relate to them". So then you try and make them like Daria because people said she was "Intelligent", "modern" and "Something people can relate to" despite that quite a bit of people liked Daria for her interaction with other colourful characters.

Of course nowadays you have to make someone emo and sad because making them like Pollyanna or Pippi Longstocking is considered "Gay".

***CaptHayfever*** · 09-06-2009, 10:52 PM

^Big difference between the two: Pollyanna was nothing but cheeriness 24-7; Pippi actually had mulitple emotions to her optimism & could actually do things to justify it.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Metal Man · 09-06-2009, 11:50 PM

The solution is always fire.

Bomby · 09-07-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sim Kid

I call it the "Daria Effect". Being a goody two-shoes or someone who is never angry or sad is now "Gay" and "Stupid" and "Cliche" because "people can't relate to them". So then you try and make them like Daria because people said she was "Intelligent", "modern" and "Something people can relate to" despite that quite a bit of people liked Daria for her interaction with other colourful characters.

Of course nowadays you have to make someone emo and sad because making them like Pollyanna or Pippi Longstocking is considered "Gay".

I'm thinking more along the lines of the "Nineties Anti-Hero" than "the Daria." For one thing, Daria is one of my favorite television shows of all time. How could I ever tire of it?

Vgfian · 09-07-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MANLY RIPPLING MUSCLES

being concerned about cliches is cliche

PARADOX!?

***Cosmonautical*** · 09-07-2009, 12:44 PM

everything is backwards during backwards day

Metal Man · 09-07-2009, 02:16 PM

Even backwards day is backwards during backwards day making it forwards day?

**X-3** · 09-07-2009, 03:17 PM

If you're right Metal, backwards day would actually make you wrong, wouldn't it?

Metal Man · 09-07-2009, 04:08 PM

Backwards day would tend to make me wrong, but then it would also twist the day to forwards day without my help. I'd be wrong and tell people it was backwards day when it was backwards day even though that meant it was forwards day.

What a logic puzzle that is.

t3hDarkness · 09-08-2009, 01:39 PM

I always thought it was trick_those_less_clever_day.

Bomby · 09-08-2009, 10:30 PM

The opposite of opposite day is not opposite day so its always regular day.

09-06-2009, 02:21 AM	#1
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Cynicism has become cliche. I've been very cynical for quite some time, but in seeing how cynical people are, I've become cynical of cynicism, therefore somehow rendering me an idealist once again. Albeit, a very pessimistic idealist. This is of course, going by the contemporary definitions of "cynicism," "idealism," and "pessimism." Last edited by Bomby; 09-06-2009 at 02:30 AM.

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Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	I prefer to be pragmatic.

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t3hDarkness Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I weep oily black tears of joy. Gender: Posts: 7,590 Thanks: 119 Thanked 418 Times in 306 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Are you tellin' tall tales again?

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Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	I'm not sure. The threadstarterpost was really a broken thought which I really hope you understand what I mean but I won't blame you if you don't because I feel I didn't explain it too well.

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t3hDarkness Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I weep oily black tears of joy. Gender: Posts: 7,590 Thanks: 119 Thanked 418 Times in 306 Posts Blog Entries: 5	To which will be replied with an equally broken though. Transcendent Cynicism I haven't figured out what it means yet, but you will be the first to know, or very likely the second, possibly the fifth.

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*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	being concerned about cliches is cliche

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*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	I'm not concerned enough with other people to care if I'm that much like them. I've been a cynical optimist for a long time, now.

09-06-2009, 02:56 PM	#10
Sim Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The state of Denial Gender: Posts: 8,884 Thanks: 80 Thanked 198 Times in 122 Posts	I call it the "Daria Effect". Being a goody two-shoes or someone who is never angry or sad is now "Gay" and "Stupid" and "Cliche" because "people can't relate to them". So then you try and make them like Daria because people said she was "Intelligent", "modern" and "Something people can relate to" despite that quite a bit of people liked Daria for her interaction with other colourful characters. Of course nowadays you have to make someone emo and sad because making them like Pollyanna or Pippi Longstocking is considered "Gay".

09-06-2009, 10:52 PM	#11
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	^Big difference between the two: Pollyanna was nothing but cheeriness 24-7; Pippi actually had mulitple emotions to her optimism & could actually do things to justify it. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

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Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	The solution is always fire.

09-07-2009, 12:44 PM	#15
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	everything is backwards during backwards day

09-07-2009, 02:16 PM	#16
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Even backwards day is backwards during backwards day making it forwards day?

09-07-2009, 04:08 PM	#18
Metal Man Fairy-Slaying Maniac Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: 1592 Miles Away From Here Gender: Posts: 18,062 Thanks: 148 Thanked 683 Times in 482 Posts	Backwards day would tend to make me wrong, but then it would also twist the day to forwards day without my help. I'd be wrong and tell people it was backwards day when it was backwards day even though that meant it was forwards day. What a logic puzzle that is.

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t3hDarkness Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I weep oily black tears of joy. Gender: Posts: 7,590 Thanks: 119 Thanked 418 Times in 306 Posts Blog Entries: 5	I always thought it was trick_those_less_clever_day.

09-08-2009, 10:30 PM	#20
Bomby You just freaking blew Joe Biden's mind! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: WHAT?house Gender: Posts: 19,491 Thanks: 513 Thanked 1,449 Times in 849 Posts Blog Entries: 5	The opposite of opposite day is not opposite day so its always regular day.