This is buuuuulllllll.

CuccoLady · 01-31-2010, 02:01 PM

So in my Physics class, I've been managing to maintain an A and have been reading the book and doing a bunch of crap because our teacher has a religion against teaching concepts. So, this last section, on fluids, I thought I knew what was going on. I got all of the assigned homework questions right, and I got the entire practice test he handed out to prepare us for the test right first try.

Well, considering I'd just aced the practice test and understood every concept on there, for some reason I had this idea that I ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING.

Welllll, we took the test the following class period and on half of the questions the question 'wtf is this?' was asked.

Got the test back. I SHOULD have recieved a D+ because of my score, but it got rounded to a B+ because the HIGHEST GRADE IN THE CLASS was a low C.

So, yeah, he rounded it so it still came out pretty much to what everyone deserved, but come ON. I knew everything on the homework and the practice test, so I assumed I knew the material.

Somehow, I don't think it's right to have a test that EVERYONE who knew the homework and practice test material subsequently failed. :{/

Clarification: I'm not complaining about the grade. I'm complaining about the material on the test.

Kargath · 01-31-2010, 02:16 PM

Was the material in the textbook?

CuccoLady · 01-31-2010, 02:46 PM

Well, if so it was material that definitely was not introduced in the class. We had never discussed it and it was never on any of the work he gave us, and the homework/practice test is supposed to tell us what we need to know for the test. It didn't.

chibimod3 · 01-31-2010, 02:51 PM

Yeah the same is true for my chemistry class. She gives us a lab the day after we learned stoichiometry and without knowing how we were supposed to calculate how many moles were burned per second on our candle.

It could be worse you could have failed it first try to.

Rainbow Dash · 01-31-2010, 03:26 PM

my physics teacher is teaching for his first year (he's an older guy, worked for the air force)

each day he talks about the chapter and gives us homework

the following day we ask him how to do problems we didn't understand (most of them, most of the time)

he pretty much works through the problem and gives us answers

for his "quizzes" (really tests over each chapter) we're given 5-6 questions from material from that chapter, he gives us a bunch of equations that we might need

if we miss any, we can go back and do corrections for half points

it's pretty rad

(this is an honors class)

***Ace Mercury*** · 01-31-2010, 04:36 PM

Yeah, some teachers are pretty garbage when it comes to keeping the test material in sync with what you're supposed to know.

I had this sort of experience in second year in some electronics courses. The lab material was a month ahead of the lecture material, so it was very awkward figuring out what the hell they expected us to do. The lab itself was sort of cookbook, but since we knew little about the theory behind it yet, it was a huge pain.

***CaptHayfever*** · 01-31-2010, 11:13 PM

Last year I took a class about creating appropriate assignments & tests. I learned almost nothing from the class that I didn't already know, aceing it easily; ironically, the professor himself was awful at following his own directions.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

I am nobody · 02-01-2010, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Zharen

You overachievers should just stfu and go with the flow. It's not like anyone in Cali is going to have a decent future anyways thanks to Schwartze******. Waah waah, I'm crying because my grade should be lower than it actually is. WTF is wrong with you?

Yay for overreacting and missing the point of the topic completely!

***Ace Mercury*** · 02-01-2010, 06:39 AM

^^, ^ Successful troll is successful.

CodenameV · 02-01-2010, 09:09 AM

And this is why I'm thanking my lucky stars I'm not at a normal highschool. Apart from one glaring exception, all of my teachers actually know how to teach.

Random User · 02-01-2010, 03:26 PM

This happened in my English class, we had a test on the story of the Illiad. The things we went over were the plot of the story, souned like the test would be easy enough, right? Wrong, about half the test was on the names of the characters. I knew the main characters, but then there were the minor gods that appeared for 2 seconds in the story, so everyone was basically saying: "Who the hell are these people?". Normally, the test would be curved, but instead since ONE KID, who was the freaking GENIUS of the school, knew all of the answers already, got a B.

So I ended up with an F, along with a good portion of the class. Then the teacher had the guts to complain about our poor performance on the test...

Jere · 02-01-2010, 03:54 PM

Happend to me from time to time, i usally managed to figure it out, and the teachers did say that it had slipped in.

CuccoLady · 02-02-2010, 05:24 PM

Funny story, we were going over the test today, and on one problem he even admitted that he had no idea how to describe how to do the problem to us. Sigh x{D

Zharen · 02-03-2010, 10:18 PM

Blah blah blah blah blah projecting myself blah why are you wigging out zhar

(-A.I.)

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 02-03-2010, 10:38 PM

^ Yeah, except that's really not what CL's saying. She's irritated that her teacher provided questions on the test that they hadn't learnt anything about. It's not about passing, it's about crazy unfairness in putting unknown information into a serious test.

Zharen · 02-03-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds

^ Yeah, except that's really not what CL's saying. She's irritated that her teacher provided questions on the test that they hadn't learnt anything about. It's not about passing, it's about crazy unfairness in putting unknown information into a serious test.

Yeah I get it, and if her grades had truly suffered, maybe I'd be a little more understanding of it. But the fact that she's complaining when the grades were still rounded off so she could get a B makes her seem like some overachieving nerd who can't suck it up. So the test was unfair, boohoo, your grades are hardly even affected.

If she wants to complain about something, why doesn't she complain about all the cuts to education and hospitals in CA? Or the 15% unemployment rate in certain areas, or the fact that property taxes and interest rates continue to go up while home equity remains low? This whole state is going under and all she cares about is the absence of some material on a friggin' test. Unbelievable.

***Cosmonautical*** · 02-03-2010, 11:19 PM

Soooo, we've established that you're self-absorbed. Did you want to express your discontent with society through any sort of way that wasn't laced with a misplaced misanthropy? Even if you're correct, and there are hot issues burning right under your feet that adults should have to concern themselves with, you want the kids to be the ones dealing with it?

How can you even blame her personally for it, and act like she's ever been made to be concious or concerned with these things? Someone like me tries to break out of those norms when he's younger, and the system does its best to try to screw me over. I thought you'd be the kind of person who'd understand this. Yet you blame her for the situation?

Don't think this thread is the place to expound your anger. If you've got anything else to say, you're not going to do it in this topic.

Zharen · 02-03-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Out-of-Control Inflatable Gorilla Fire

Soooo, we've established that you're self-absorbed.

How so? The fact that there are greater problems that need to be addressed? Perhaps I'm trying to put things into perspective for her, rather than babble on about my own problems that you seem to be insinuating here.

Quote:

Did you want to express your discontent with society through any sort of way that wasn't laced with a misplaced misanthropy? Even if you're correct, and there are hot issues burning right under your feet that adults should have to concern themselves with, you want the kids to be the ones dealing with it?

No, I would much rather have the people who caused this problem to deal with it. But the reality is, they're not, and this new generation of kids WILL have to deal with it, whether they want too or not.

Quote:

How can you even blame her personally for it, and act like she's ever been made to be concious or concerned with these things? Someone like me tries to break out of those norms when he's younger, and the system does its best to try to screw me over. I thought you'd be the kind of person who'd understand this. Yet you blame her for the situation?

How exactly did I blame her for the situation? *Re-reads last post* Yeah, I don't see anything on there where I pointed my finger at her and told her she is the cause for all of my unhappiness. I also don't see any part where I said she was to blame for her incompetent teacher botching up her test. But it appeared that he did try to remedy things, yet she still had to whine about it.

Quote:

Don't think this thread is the place to expound your anger. If you've got anything else to say, you're not going to do it in this topic.

***CaptHayfever*** · 02-03-2010, 11:33 PM

Invalid tests lead to lower student scores.
Lower student scores lead to lower school scores.
Lower school scores lead to lower school funding, despite how little sense that system makes.

Teachers like that are causing the cuts to education, Zhar.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

CuccoLady · 02-04-2010, 12:06 AM

The point of this thread was that I was tested on material even he didn't know how to explain to us because we hadn't seen it before. Read the last line on the first post; I am NOT complaining about my grade. I'm unhappy with the material on the test.

Anyway, I've pretty much vented out my frustrations so if the admins find it necessary they can lock this topic x{D

01-31-2010, 02:01 PM	#1
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	This is buuuuulllllll. So in my Physics class, I've been managing to maintain an A and have been reading the book and doing a bunch of crap because our teacher has a religion against teaching concepts. So, this last section, on fluids, I thought I knew what was going on. I got all of the assigned homework questions right, and I got the entire practice test he handed out to prepare us for the test right first try. Well, considering I'd just aced the practice test and understood every concept on there, for some reason I had this idea that I ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING. Welllll, we took the test the following class period and on half of the questions the question 'wtf is this?' was asked. Got the test back. I SHOULD have recieved a D+ because of my score, but it got rounded to a B+ because the HIGHEST GRADE IN THE CLASS was a low C. So, yeah, he rounded it so it still came out pretty much to what everyone deserved, but come ON. I knew everything on the homework and the practice test, so I assumed I knew the material. Somehow, I don't think it's right to have a test that EVERYONE who knew the homework and practice test material subsequently failed. :{/ Clarification: I'm not complaining about the grade. I'm complaining about the material on the test. Last edited by CuccoLady; 01-31-2010 at 02:07 PM.

02-03-2010, 10:18 PM	#14
Zharen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Modesto, CA U.S. Gender: Posts: 7,085 Thanks: 21 Thanked 71 Times in 35 Posts	Blah blah blah blah blah projecting myself blah why are you wigging out zhar (-A.I.) Last edited by Cosmonautical; 02-03-2010 at 11:11 PM.

01-31-2010, 02:16 PM	#2
Kargath et in Arcadia ego Join Date: Jul 2001 Gender: Posts: 8,334 Thanks: 1,226 Thanked 780 Times in 488 Posts	Was the material in the textbook?

01-31-2010, 02:46 PM	#3
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	Well, if so it was material that definitely was not introduced in the class. We had never discussed it and it was never on any of the work he gave us, and the homework/practice test is supposed to tell us what we need to know for the test. It didn't.

01-31-2010, 02:51 PM	#4
chibimod3 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The bottom of a Dr. Pepper bottle Gender: Posts: 497 Thanks: 52 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts	Yeah the same is true for my chemistry class. She gives us a lab the day after we learned stoichiometry and without knowing how we were supposed to calculate how many moles were burned per second on our candle. It could be worse you could have failed it first try to.

01-31-2010, 03:26 PM	#5
Rainbow Dash been dreamin', i've been waitin' Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: a bomb-ass cloud house bachelorette pad Gender: Posts: 24,402 Thanks: 173 Thanked 1,179 Times in 716 Posts	my physics teacher is teaching for his first year (he's an older guy, worked for the air force) each day he talks about the chapter and gives us homework the following day we ask him how to do problems we didn't understand (most of them, most of the time) he pretty much works through the problem and gives us answers for his "quizzes" (really tests over each chapter) we're given 5-6 questions from material from that chapter, he gives us a bunch of equations that we might need if we miss any, we can go back and do corrections for half points it's pretty rad (this is an honors class)

01-31-2010, 04:36 PM	#6
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Yeah, some teachers are pretty garbage when it comes to keeping the test material in sync with what you're supposed to know. I had this sort of experience in second year in some electronics courses. The lab material was a month ahead of the lecture material, so it was very awkward figuring out what the hell they expected us to do. The lab itself was sort of cookbook, but since we knew little about the theory behind it yet, it was a huge pain.

01-31-2010, 11:13 PM	#7
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Last year I took a class about creating appropriate assignments & tests. I learned almost nothing from the class that I didn't already know, aceing it easily; ironically, the professor himself was awful at following his own directions. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

02-01-2010, 06:39 AM	#9
*Ace Mercury* Marshmallow Knight ☆ Supermod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Southern Ontario Gender: Posts: 23,275 Thanks: 568 Thanked 3,297 Times in 1,582 Posts Blog Entries: 1	^^, ^ Successful troll is successful.

02-01-2010, 09:09 AM	#10
CodenameV Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mudkipland, CA Gender: Posts: 215 Thanks: 43 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	And this is why I'm thanking my lucky stars I'm not at a normal highschool. Apart from one glaring exception, all of my teachers actually know how to teach.

02-01-2010, 03:26 PM	#11
Random User Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Equestrian Republic of Spanglidesh Gender: Posts: 3,562 Thanks: 321 Thanked 195 Times in 143 Posts Blog Entries: 4	This happened in my English class, we had a test on the story of the Illiad. The things we went over were the plot of the story, souned like the test would be easy enough, right? Wrong, about half the test was on the names of the characters. I knew the main characters, but then there were the minor gods that appeared for 2 seconds in the story, so everyone was basically saying: "Who the hell are these people?". Normally, the test would be curved, but instead since ONE KID, who was the freaking GENIUS of the school, knew all of the answers already, got a B. So I ended up with an F, along with a good portion of the class. Then the teacher had the guts to complain about our poor performance on the test...

02-01-2010, 03:54 PM	#12
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,650 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Happend to me from time to time, i usally managed to figure it out, and the teachers did say that it had slipped in.

02-02-2010, 05:24 PM	#13
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	Funny story, we were going over the test today, and on one problem he even admitted that he had no idea how to describe how to do the problem to us. Sigh x{D

02-03-2010, 10:38 PM	#15
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	^ Yeah, except that's really not what CL's saying. She's irritated that her teacher provided questions on the test that they hadn't learnt anything about. It's not about passing, it's about crazy unfairness in putting unknown information into a serious test.

02-03-2010, 11:19 PM	#17
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	Soooo, we've established that you're self-absorbed. Did you want to express your discontent with society through any sort of way that wasn't laced with a misplaced misanthropy? Even if you're correct, and there are hot issues burning right under your feet that adults should have to concern themselves with, you want the kids to be the ones dealing with it? How can you even blame her personally for it, and act like she's ever been made to be concious or concerned with these things? Someone like me tries to break out of those norms when he's younger, and the system does its best to try to screw me over. I thought you'd be the kind of person who'd understand this. Yet you blame her for the situation? Don't think this thread is the place to expound your anger. If you've got anything else to say, you're not going to do it in this topic.

02-03-2010, 11:33 PM	#19
*CaptHayfever* Smash SuperMod Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: (n) - the place where I am Gender: Posts: 27,661 Thanks: 1,991 Thanked 2,486 Times in 1,513 Posts	Invalid tests lead to lower student scores. Lower student scores lead to lower school scores. Lower school scores lead to lower school funding, despite how little sense that system makes. Teachers like that are causing the cuts to education, Zhar. And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

02-04-2010, 12:06 AM	#20
CuccoLady Anime and Cartoons Mod Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THIS LOCATION REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE, LUKE Gender: Posts: 9,077 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 1,222 Times in 822 Posts	The point of this thread was that I was tested on material even he didn't know how to explain to us because we hadn't seen it before. Read the last line on the first post; I am NOT complaining about my grade. I'm unhappy with the material on the test. Anyway, I've pretty much vented out my frustrations so if the admins find it necessary they can lock this topic x{D