Stupid, harmless, meaningless, doesn't involve you, whatevs.

Vgfian · 10-03-2010, 10:33 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHHA. You think you're the only one who contemplates suicide?
Srsly shutup.
I may sound like a jerk, but it's true, chances are everyone has. I've got some friggin crazy family and had alot of other crap goin on. You think I haven't thought about such things?
Everyone has their problems!
Yet you go crazy and overreact to a stupid joke that had nothing to do with you.

Meant for Facebook, but it would be pointless there....

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This part is posted, but it's doubtful who it was towards will see it.

You think that you're the only one who has "reason"to contemplate suicide? Think again. Everyone has big problems. What matters is how you handle them. Face up to them and live with them, or "take the cowards way out".

Call me a retard. I don't care. You have no reason to go crazy and insult people over a STUPID, HARMLESS, and POINTLESS JOKE that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 10-03-2010, 10:44 PM

Suicide isn't cowardly. I recommend you read up on genuine ways to help people who are suicidal, rather than sticking your arrogant opinion in their face.

**Loot** · 10-03-2010, 10:46 PM

What the ****

Did you just belittle people who are suicidal

**** you. That is the worst behavior to have with such an issue.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 10-03-2010, 10:46 PM

Also, if your joke is so "stupid" and "meaningless", it shouldn't be too hard for you to just tell the person, "I'm sorry it upset you, it seriously wasn't mean to offend you at all, I hope you understand that I was making a joke about something/someone else and that I didn't intend for you to be hurt by it". Want to talk about handling things? Yeah. Let's.

Vgfian · 10-03-2010, 11:52 PM

^I did this.

Forgive me for not thinking my words through in a rant that I was pissed about and wrote in like five seconds.

Also, SD, I wasn't necessarily trying to help, as I said, I was mad. I just posted that randomly. The first part I didn't even post and the second I know they didn't end up seeing.

I got alot of sh** going on and I get mad easily lately.

I got especially mad when the guy essentially made it seem like he was the only one who could ever be depressed in t3h wurld and I'd think that's understandable considering my recent struggles with my own d**n depression/suicidal thoughts (not including my other sh** I wont go into) and fear of becoming my d**n uncle/father. ~~so f*** off.~~So please try to understand my anger and how I couldn't have thought about this.

This is what happened.

1) "No I'm not moving. You can't make me, I'm staying right here in your coments. You can hold a gun to my head. I'm not leaving... Unless you delete this message... Crap."

2) "I don't care if you accept me or not! You can hold a gun to my head I'm not- Oh wait...""I did this already"

3) "Nope. Just a regular jerk who likes to make people laugh. Sorry to disappoint. ;p"

4) (posted at the same moment as their post so I didn't see it) "I may merrily jest however might miss [M.M.] ask that I stop I would. Otherwise...." (or something fairly close to that.)

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I then proceeded to send two (non angry and as contained as can be) messages to my friend (I tried to hurry to get it there before they blocked me) that essentially asked them to apologize to their friend for me and myself apologizing to my friend. I also at that time deleted all of my comments.

They still deleted me from their friendslist. I hate it, I liked them, they were nice; however, if they're going to get so upset about something so stupid then I really shouldn't/don't care.

Like what I said, or hate it, I really don't give a care.

To be honest, I figured everyone here would just go "He's just venting anger and they didn't see it no harm done" or something and just leave the topic be.

Instead, what happens? People come in and curse me, insult me, and essentially try to argue with me.

I figured I could get this stuff out of my system here.
All it does however now, is make me angrier. I literally want to go massacre something/someone and/or self destruct right now. F***ing great thing this venting forum. WORKS LIKE A MOTHERF***ING CHARM!

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I'm sorry. I had a good day today, despite the fact that I had a bad night most of last night. I found out my friend is getting married. Another friend's bf is looking for rings. I found out another friend's band is flourishing. I find out two other friends got back together after a long separation. My mom is getting into contact with her family, which makes her happy. We saw a good movie this week. The weather is nice. We are all able to breathe, walk, see, hear, feel, etc, etc. and yet I find myself getting depressed... and it makes me feel worse when I realize I'm depressed and have no reason to be.
I'm worried that thing I had to get a surgery for a couple of years back has returned and if it has I could go into a coma at any time. I have no insurance right now to confirm this one way or the other. Everytime I think I belong here or somewhere else, I voice an opinion, not even necessarily a political one, just a random opinion and I feel shunned and am probably met with hostility... and we're talking about moving again. The last one isn't necessarily completely unwelcomed, but then it is essentially left up to where I/my sister decide to go to school. Which is another thing I have to worry about... And then we're low on money and end up scrounging... and we're paying a dumb amount of rent for a small trailer that is literally falling apart... I'm worried about stupid stuff like my appearance/fitness as well and I feel bad about worrying about such things... and then (dotdotdot) ...

Along with those, without thinking about it, I end up worrying about other people's problems as well, and feel it necessary to help, even if it may be unwanted. That's partly why I posted the joke. Not to be a jerk, but to try and cheer my friend up... It didn't work I suppose...

I don't like writing these topics. They make me feel like I'm complaining. I don't mean to. As I said, I have many good things going on as well. I just ask that you understand my anger/frustration over stupid things.

Anyway, sorry if I offended someone or something, I didn't mean to...
And I'm also sorry I took up your time. You can lock this topic now if it is a bother.

Now... I should probably go to bed, I have a big test tomorrow and have a fever to sleep off..

Again, I am genuinely sorry to anyone I may have offended, and I thank you for your time in reading this post.

Jere · 10-04-2010, 01:25 AM

it's ok somewhere we all need to vent a bit, and people taking stuff seriously on facebook need to rethink some stuff in my oppinion.

***Cosmonautical*** · 10-04-2010, 01:32 AM

frankly man, people just take themselves too seriously

e-hate is everywhere, it's petty, and so is the rest of reality

coolest part is, you don't really have to give a damn - either people are going to throw a fit that you had an opinion, or they're going to try to be your friend

I don't see why we all have to be mcfakersons just because we want to get along, you can accept that someone has differences and still be a decentish person to them in all other scenarios

Jere · 10-04-2010, 02:05 AM

now i remember what i tried to say, they need to get that stick up their collective behinds and put them somewhere else.

***Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds*** · 10-04-2010, 03:23 AM

Well, looking at the screencap you posted, the guy who freaked out didn't even read what you had said properly. In which case, the easiest way out is to just tell him something like:

"You have made a mistake about what I said; I was saying that THEY would have to force me out, as a joke about not leaving unless they made me (ie. "hold a gun to my head"). I didn't say I was holding a gun to my own head. I wasn't making any jokes about suicide or depression."

Funny how the issue has been misrepresented.

It's not about whether or not you can rant, it's the fact that you come in here and belittle people who are struggling with suicidal tendencies. Like I said, it's not a cowardly thing. Severe depression has nothing to do with "just deal with it". The people suffering have got actual physical issues: their brains aren't making the chemicals that make them CAPABLE of feeling okay. Do you tell an amputee, "walk anyway", even if they don't have a leg? These are comparable. "Deal with it" only works if you have the parts necessary for dealing with it. Can't just magic up the "okay feelings" out of nothing.

So, by all means, rant about how that idiot can't read for ****. Rant about how people can't take a joke. Rant about how people are fake friends and act like idiots over something you didn't even do. But dude, don't act like depression and suicide are normal things that you just casually get over. There's a very real difference between someone who is in a bad situation rationally thinking about what would happen if they killed themselves, and someone who is actually suicidal and thinks that death is the best, or the only option available to them.

CodenameV · 10-11-2010, 01:22 AM

Y'see, I see both viewpoints. But really, it was just a rant. He was upset. He didn't want to offend anyone. But man; I feel for ya. Like you said, alot of us get to that point where we contemplate suicide. I've been there too. But since we can cope, let's cope. Because good times are coming along at some point, and let's be around to enjoy them. And for the people who can't, it's a real crime, and they deserve nothing but help and support. Either way you're in my thoughts; and I truly hope things work out for you.

10-03-2010, 10:33 PM	#1
Vgfian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Listening to Seeking 7 Seven and giving out free hugs. :) Gender: Posts: 6,862 Thanks: 2,433 Thanked 398 Times in 311 Posts	Stupid, harmless, meaningless, doesn't involve you, whatevs. HAHAHAHAHAHHA. You think you're the only one who contemplates suicide? Srsly shutup. I may sound like a jerk, but it's true, chances are everyone has. I've got some friggin crazy family and had alot of other crap goin on. You think I haven't thought about such things? Everyone has their problems! Yet you go crazy and overreact to a stupid joke that had nothing to do with you. Meant for Facebook, but it would be pointless there.... ---- This part is posted, but it's doubtful who it was towards will see it. You think that you're the only one who has "reason"to contemplate suicide? Think again. Everyone has big problems. What matters is how you handle them. Face up to them and live with them, or "take the cowards way out". Call me a retard. I don't care. You have no reason to go crazy and insult people over a STUPID, HARMLESS, and POINTLESS JOKE that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

10-03-2010, 11:52 PM	#5
Vgfian Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Listening to Seeking 7 Seven and giving out free hugs. :) Gender: Posts: 6,862 Thanks: 2,433 Thanked 398 Times in 311 Posts	^I did this. Forgive me for not thinking my words through in a rant that I was pissed about and wrote in like five seconds. Also, SD, I wasn't necessarily trying to help, as I said, I was mad. I just posted that randomly. The first part I didn't even post and the second I know they didn't end up seeing. I got alot of sh going on and I get mad easily lately. I got especially mad when the guy essentially made it seem like he was the only one who could ever be depressed in t3h wurld and I'd think that's understandable considering my recent struggles with my own dn depression/suicidal thoughts (not including my other sh I wont go into) and fear of becoming my dn uncle/father. ~~so f* off.~~So please try to understand my anger and how I couldn't have thought about this. This is what happened. 1) "No I'm not moving. You can't make me, I'm staying right here in your coments. You can hold a gun to my head. I'm not leaving... Unless you delete this message... Crap." 2) "I don't care if you accept me or not! You can hold a gun to my head I'm not- Oh wait...""I did this already" 3) "Nope. Just a regular jerk who likes to make people laugh. Sorry to disappoint. ;p" 4) (posted at the same moment as their post so I didn't see it) "I may merrily jest however might miss [M.M.] ask that I stop I would. Otherwise...." (or something fairly close to that.) ------- I then proceeded to send two (non angry and as contained as can be) messages to my friend (I tried to hurry to get it there before they blocked me) that essentially asked them to apologize to their friend for me and myself apologizing to my friend. I also at that time deleted all of my comments. They still deleted me from their friendslist. I hate it, I liked them, they were nice; however, if they're going to get so upset about something so stupid then I really shouldn't/don't care. Like what I said, or hate it, I really don't give a care. To be honest, I figured everyone here would just go "He's just venting anger and they didn't see it no harm done" or something and just leave the topic be. Instead, what happens? People come in and curse me, insult me, and essentially try to argue with me. I figured I could get this stuff out of my system here. All it does however now, is make me angrier. I literally want to go massacre something/someone and/or self destruct right now. Fing great thing this venting forum. WORKS LIKE A MOTHERF*ING CHARM! ------ I'm sorry. I had a good day today, despite the fact that I had a bad night most of last night. I found out my friend is getting married. Another friend's bf is looking for rings. I found out another friend's band is flourishing. I find out two other friends got back together after a long separation. My mom is getting into contact with her family, which makes her happy. We saw a good movie this week. The weather is nice. We are all able to breathe, walk, see, hear, feel, etc, etc. and yet I find myself getting depressed... and it makes me feel worse when I realize I'm depressed and have no reason to be. I'm worried that thing I had to get a surgery for a couple of years back has returned and if it has I could go into a coma at any time. I have no insurance right now to confirm this one way or the other. Everytime I think I belong here or somewhere else, I voice an opinion, not even necessarily a political one, just a random opinion and I feel shunned and am probably met with hostility... and we're talking about moving again. The last one isn't necessarily completely unwelcomed, but then it is essentially left up to where I/my sister decide to go to school. Which is another thing I have to worry about... And then we're low on money and end up scrounging... and we're paying a dumb amount of rent for a small trailer that is literally falling apart... I'm worried about stupid stuff like my appearance/fitness as well and I feel bad about worrying about such things... and then (dotdotdot) ... Along with those, without thinking about it, I end up worrying about other people's problems as well, and feel it necessary to help, even if it may be unwanted. That's partly why I posted the joke. Not to be a jerk, but to try and cheer my friend up... It didn't work I suppose... I don't like writing these topics. They make me feel like I'm complaining. I don't mean to. As I said, I have many good things going on as well. I just ask that you understand my anger/frustration over stupid things. Anyway, sorry if I offended someone or something, I didn't mean to... And I'm also sorry I took up your time. You can lock this topic now if it is a bother. Now... I should probably go to bed, I have a big test tomorrow and have a fever to sleep off.. Again, I am genuinely sorry to anyone I may have offended, and I thank you for your time in reading this post. Last edited by Vgfian; 10-04-2010 at 12:42 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost and Post-Post cencorship of myself and then a rantvent*

10-03-2010, 10:44 PM	#2
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	Suicide isn't cowardly. I recommend you read up on genuine ways to help people who are suicidal, rather than sticking your arrogant opinion in their face.

10-03-2010, 10:46 PM	#3
Loot Apparently I'm a mod? Join Date: May 2001 Location: LEGITIMATE BUSINESS Gender: Posts: 13,208 Thanks: 236 Thanked 1,237 Times in 659 Posts	What the ** Did you just belittle people who are suicidal ** you. That is the worst behavior to have with such an issue.

10-04-2010, 01:25 AM	#6
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,650 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	it's ok somewhere we all need to vent a bit, and people taking stuff seriously on facebook need to rethink some stuff in my oppinion.

10-04-2010, 01:32 AM	#7
*Cosmonautical* Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 28,102 Thanks: 2,157 Thanked 5,338 Times in 2,433 Posts	frankly man, people just take themselves too seriously e-hate is everywhere, it's petty, and so is the rest of reality coolest part is, you don't really have to give a damn - either people are going to throw a fit that you had an opinion, or they're going to try to be your friend I don't see why we all have to be mcfakersons just because we want to get along, you can accept that someone has differences and still be a decentish person to them in all other scenarios

10-04-2010, 02:05 AM	#8
Jere Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sutme Gender: Posts: 3,650 Thanks: 404 Thanked 331 Times in 256 Posts Blog Entries: 3	now i remember what i tried to say, they need to get that stick up their collective behinds and put them somewhere else.

10-04-2010, 03:23 AM	#9
*Saria Dragon of the Rain Wilds* Admin "mine.. not yours. NO. MINE." Epic Ladynerd Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Forteresse de Valois Gender: Posts: 28,504 Thanks: 1,658 Thanked 1,820 Times in 1,042 Posts	Well, looking at the screencap you posted, the guy who freaked out didn't even read what you had said properly. In which case, the easiest way out is to just tell him something like: "You have made a mistake about what I said; I was saying that THEY would have to force me out, as a joke about not leaving unless they made me (ie. "hold a gun to my head"). I didn't say I was holding a gun to my own head. I wasn't making any jokes about suicide or depression." Funny how the issue has been misrepresented. It's not about whether or not you can rant, it's the fact that you come in here and belittle people who are struggling with suicidal tendencies. Like I said, it's not a cowardly thing. Severe depression has nothing to do with "just deal with it". The people suffering have got actual physical issues: their brains aren't making the chemicals that make them CAPABLE of feeling okay. Do you tell an amputee, "walk anyway", even if they don't have a leg? These are comparable. "Deal with it" only works if you have the parts necessary for dealing with it. Can't just magic up the "okay feelings" out of nothing. So, by all means, rant about how that idiot can't read for ***. Rant about how people can't take a joke. Rant about how people are fake friends and act like idiots over something you didn't even do. But dude, don't act like depression and suicide are normal things that you just casually get over. There's a very real difference between someone who is in a bad situation rationally* thinking about what would happen if they killed themselves, and someone who is actually suicidal and thinks that death is the best, or the only option available to them.

10-11-2010, 01:22 AM	#10
CodenameV Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mudkipland, CA Gender: Posts: 215 Thanks: 43 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Y'see, I see both viewpoints. But really, it was just a rant. He was upset. He didn't want to offend anyone. But man; I feel for ya. Like you said, alot of us get to that point where we contemplate suicide. I've been there too. But since we can cope, let's cope. Because good times are coming along at some point, and let's be around to enjoy them. And for the people who can't, it's a real crime, and they deserve nothing but help and support. Either way you're in my thoughts; and I truly hope things work out for you.