The Koopa Species

12-12-2003, 08:57 PM

Can someone give me a really good, detailed explanation of the entire Koopa Race? What I don't get is that Koopa Troopas have beaks, and Bowser, King of the Koopas, does not. And what exactly are Goombas? What about Bowser's 7 Koopa Kids as well as Baby Bowser and Bowser Jr.? Can anyone explain all of this, and anyting else Koopa-like, as accurately as possible?

[ December 18, 2003, 06:17 AM: Message edited by: MagnuM ]

12-12-2003, 09:19 PM

Goombas are mushrooms. They are traitors to the Mushroom Kingdom.

Koopa Troopas don't really have beaks; that's just an exaggeration of the beak-like mouths that real turtles have. Bowser doesn't have it because he's big enough for a properly rendered mouth.

The Koopalings are Bowser's 7 kids. They appeared in SMB3 and SMW, and have recently resurfaced in M&L.

Bowser Jr. is what we like to call a continuity error.

I don't remember Baby Bowser.

But I do remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

12-12-2003, 09:25 PM

Baby Bowser is Bowser when he was a child.

Metal Mario · 12-12-2003, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by CaptHayfever:
The Koopalings are Bowser's 7 kids. They appeared in SMB3 and SMW, and have recently resurfaced in M&L.

They also appeared in Yoshi's Safari and Mario Is Missing

Quote:

I don't remember Baby Bowser.

Baby Bowser is Bowser as an infant. He appeared in Yoshi's Island and Yoshi's Story.

12-12-2003, 11:30 PM

Then who's Koopa Kid? (Mario Party 5)

12-13-2003, 12:01 AM

If Baby Bowser is Bowser as an infant, than who's that in Super Mario Sunshine next to Bowser at the top of the volcano?

12-13-2003, 12:05 AM

Bowser Jr. is just that; Bowser Jr. Meaning Bowser's son.

12-13-2003, 01:13 AM

Morton Koopa is Bowser Jr's uncle. Wendy koopa is Baby Bowser's sister.

Metal Mario · 12-13-2003, 01:21 AM

^Whaaaaaaat?

Bowser Junior is the little guy in Super Mario Sunshine.

Koopa Kid is the little midget Bowser look-alike who appears in the Mario Party series.

12-13-2003, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by SANTA-ILLA:
Baby Bowser is Bowser when he was a child.

Oh, yeah, that Baby Bowser.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Chunky Is Teh n00b · 12-13-2003, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Banned from VGF:
Morton Koopa is Bowser Jr's uncle. Wendy koopa is Baby Bowser's sister.

Heck no.

Here's a family tree...

Morton Koopa Sr.-His Wife
..........................|
............Bowser-His Wife
.......................|
Morton Jr., Wendy, Iggy, Lemmy, Roy, Larry, Ludwig, Bowser Jr.

Baby Bowser=Bowser as a baby.
Bowser Jr.=Bowser's 8th child

[ December 13, 2003, 06:00 AM: Message edited by: Chunky Kong12345 will explode in... ]

Metal Mario · 12-13-2003, 11:47 AM

There is no Morton Koopa Sr. For the umpteenth time, each of the Koopalings were named after notable musicians/composers, and Morton was named after a guy called Morton Jr.

Ditto McCloaker · 12-14-2003, 01:08 PM

Thank you, Metal Mario. As usual, you're our myth-debunker.

Here's the skinny on the whole Koopa race.

Shellcreepers/ "Koopa Troopas" - These are the over-sized (as big as a Galapagos) turtles, which walk on four legs. These are the bottom rung of Koopa evolution, the equivalent of our apes, if you're of that mind. They're massive, have intelligences slightly lower than dogs, and are actually pretty vicious. Interestingly, the Koopas use them as attackers. They march around on patrol and attack. Compared to average turtles, they get around at a pretty good clip. They appear to have very poor vision. Probably originally sea turtles, and hence do poorly on land.

Koopas - These are the upright turtle folk we've seen more recently. These are the main body of the Koopa people. They're not all bad; it appears the dumber ones are the ones most likely to go along with Bowser. They're pretty intelligent. They at least wear shoes, and little T-shirts under their shells.

It's from these that more sophisticated members of Bowser's army are culled; soldiers from here are part of the 'Hammer Brotherhood' who use hammers as weapons. We also get MagiKoopas from these ranks.

Royal Koopas/ "Boom Booms" - These are the biggest, strongest members of the Koopa race, who rule over the lesser Koopas, for the most part. These are the gigantic ones with the thickest skin, greatest physical strength, and spiked shells. They can even breathe fire, with a little training. This is where Bowser and his family are from. They appear to be the alpha males of this bunch. They're not the only ones, though. The Boom-Booms from SMB3 are from this same group, and we can clearly see why the Bowser line are the ones in charge. Why the Boom Booms don't appear to have horns or hair is a fair question: They may have been young, or perhaps they're required to saw off their horns and cut their hair since they're not royalty. Perhaps it's part of the military style. Not sure. Clubbas and Tubba Blubba are also from this grouping. They have hair, but no horns. They must have to saw them off.

Lakitus- Branching off the side from the middle-level Koopas is this strange offshoot. They have magical powers that they typically use to control clouds and seem to live separately from the rest of the Koopa bunch, in loftier, more exotic locales. It seems only a few of these lofty turtles follow Bowser. They look the most like regular Koopas, but for the weird swirly design on their shells, tinier bodies, no beaks, and some hair.

Spinies - An offshoot of the Shellcreepers. Though much smaller, they're far more heavily armored, with tucked-in heads and plenty of spikes. It's possible the Boom-Booms evolved from these, while the rank-and-file Koopas came from the Shellcreeper line.

Beetles- Shooting off from the other side of the Shellcreeper are these. These are the most heavily armored Koopas. They're called Beetles, but aren't insects. They live in caves and rocky places, and can climb rocks. They're absolutely fireproof, and very heavy. Wild fighters, and pretty vicious.

Any kind of Koopa I've missed?

12-14-2003, 03:54 PM

Hey! Thanks a lot Ditto McCloaker! Good job!

Did you get that information from a source or did you come up with that yourself?

12-14-2003, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Ditto McCloaker, Nintendo Loyalist:
Any kind of Koopa I've missed?

Well... there are Lakitu-like things that hide in holes (SMW2)...

[ December 14, 2003, 03:42 PM: Message edited by: KirbyKing ]

Metal Mario · 12-14-2003, 07:06 PM

^Those are Lakitus as well. They just don't ride clouds.

Ditto McCloaker · 12-14-2003, 08:39 PM

Those may well be babies.

No, I produced that myself.

Relax, everyone. I'm a Mariologist.

PSYCHOKID909 · 12-16-2003, 12:05 AM

So were do the Boomrang and Fireo Bros com in? Also what about the Goomba verieties and the Extra large sized baddies from Giant land in SMB3?

Luigi of the Pipes · 12-16-2003, 12:30 AM

You didn't happen to get some of this info from Elzie's SMBA guide, did you Ditters?

12-16-2003, 12:42 AM

I'd like to express one more difference between Bowser Jr. and Baby Bowser:

Bowser Jr. has small horns on his head.

Baby Bowser has no horns at all.

Thank you.

12-12-2003, 08:57 PM	#1
Magnum Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Can someone give me a really good, detailed explanation of the entire Koopa Race? What I don't get is that Koopa Troopas have beaks, and Bowser, King of the Koopas, does not. And what exactly are Goombas? What about Bowser's 7 Koopa Kids as well as Baby Bowser and Bowser Jr.? Can anyone explain all of this, and anyting else Koopa-like, as accurately as possible? [ December 18, 2003, 06:17 AM: Message edited by: MagnuM ]

12-12-2003, 09:19 PM	#2
CaptHayfever Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Goombas are mushrooms. They are traitors to the Mushroom Kingdom. Koopa Troopas don't really have beaks; that's just an exaggeration of the beak-like mouths that real turtles have. Bowser doesn't have it because he's big enough for a properly rendered mouth. The Koopalings are Bowser's 7 kids. They appeared in SMB3 and SMW, and have recently resurfaced in M&L. Bowser Jr. is what we like to call a continuity error. I don't remember Baby Bowser. But I do remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

12-12-2003, 09:25 PM	#3
GORE-ILLA Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Baby Bowser is Bowser when he was a child.

12-12-2003, 11:30 PM	#5
Knuckles173 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Then who's Koopa Kid? (Mario Party 5)

12-13-2003, 12:01 AM	#6
Cham Zord Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	If Baby Bowser is Bowser as an infant, than who's that in Super Mario Sunshine next to Bowser at the top of the volcano?

12-13-2003, 12:05 AM	#7
I'm-a-Luigi-number-1 Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Bowser Jr. is just that; Bowser Jr. Meaning Bowser's son.

12-13-2003, 01:13 AM	#8
Banned from VGF Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Morton Koopa is Bowser Jr's uncle. Wendy koopa is Baby Bowser's sister.

12-13-2003, 01:21 AM	#9
Metal Mario Game Brain Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 14,262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 8,076.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 8,076.00 Donate	^Whaaaaaaat? Bowser Junior is the little guy in Super Mario Sunshine. Koopa Kid is the little midget Bowser look-alike who appears in the Mario Party series.

12-13-2003, 11:47 AM	#12
Metal Mario Game Brain Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 14,262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 8,076.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 8,076.00 Donate	There is no Morton Koopa Sr. For the umpteenth time, each of the Koopalings were named after notable musicians/composers, and Morton was named after a guy called Morton Jr.

12-14-2003, 01:08 PM	#13
Ditto McCloaker Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: SimCity Posts: 3,246 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 974.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,474.00 Donate	Thank you, Metal Mario. As usual, you're our myth-debunker. Here's the skinny on the whole Koopa race. Shellcreepers/ "Koopa Troopas" - These are the over-sized (as big as a Galapagos) turtles, which walk on four legs. These are the bottom rung of Koopa evolution, the equivalent of our apes, if you're of that mind. They're massive, have intelligences slightly lower than dogs, and are actually pretty vicious. Interestingly, the Koopas use them as attackers. They march around on patrol and attack. Compared to average turtles, they get around at a pretty good clip. They appear to have very poor vision. Probably originally sea turtles, and hence do poorly on land. Koopas - These are the upright turtle folk we've seen more recently. These are the main body of the Koopa people. They're not all bad; it appears the dumber ones are the ones most likely to go along with Bowser. They're pretty intelligent. They at least wear shoes, and little T-shirts under their shells. It's from these that more sophisticated members of Bowser's army are culled; soldiers from here are part of the 'Hammer Brotherhood' who use hammers as weapons. We also get MagiKoopas from these ranks. Royal Koopas/ "Boom Booms" - These are the biggest, strongest members of the Koopa race, who rule over the lesser Koopas, for the most part. These are the gigantic ones with the thickest skin, greatest physical strength, and spiked shells. They can even breathe fire, with a little training. This is where Bowser and his family are from. They appear to be the alpha males of this bunch. They're not the only ones, though. The Boom-Booms from SMB3 are from this same group, and we can clearly see why the Bowser line are the ones in charge. Why the Boom Booms don't appear to have horns or hair is a fair question: They may have been young, or perhaps they're required to saw off their horns and cut their hair since they're not royalty. Perhaps it's part of the military style. Not sure. Clubbas and Tubba Blubba are also from this grouping. They have hair, but no horns. They must have to saw them off. Lakitus- Branching off the side from the middle-level Koopas is this strange offshoot. They have magical powers that they typically use to control clouds and seem to live separately from the rest of the Koopa bunch, in loftier, more exotic locales. It seems only a few of these lofty turtles follow Bowser. They look the most like regular Koopas, but for the weird swirly design on their shells, tinier bodies, no beaks, and some hair. Spinies - An offshoot of the Shellcreepers. Though much smaller, they're far more heavily armored, with tucked-in heads and plenty of spikes. It's possible the Boom-Booms evolved from these, while the rank-and-file Koopas came from the Shellcreeper line. Beetles- Shooting off from the other side of the Shellcreeper are these. These are the most heavily armored Koopas. They're called Beetles, but aren't insects. They live in caves and rocky places, and can climb rocks. They're absolutely fireproof, and very heavy. Wild fighters, and pretty vicious. Any kind of Koopa I've missed?

12-14-2003, 03:54 PM	#14
Magnum Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	Hey! Thanks a lot Ditto McCloaker! Good job! Did you get that information from a source or did you come up with that yourself?

12-14-2003, 07:06 PM	#16
Metal Mario Game Brain Join Date: Dec 1999 Posts: 14,262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 8,076.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 8,076.00 Donate	^Those are Lakitus as well. They just don't ride clouds.

12-14-2003, 08:39 PM	#17
Ditto McCloaker Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: SimCity Posts: 3,246 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 974.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,474.00 Donate	Those may well be babies. No, I produced that myself. Relax, everyone. I'm a Mariologist.

12-16-2003, 12:05 AM	#18
PSYCHOKID909 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: On the run. Gender: Posts: 8,477 Thanks: 91 Thanked 45 Times in 38 Posts Points: 6,942.48 Bank: 6,786.13 Total Points: 13,728.61 Donate	So were do the Boomrang and Fireo Bros com in? Also what about the Goomba verieties and the Extra large sized baddies from Giant land in SMB3?

12-16-2003, 12:30 AM	#19
Luigi of the Pipes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Goomba Village, Mushroom Kingdom Posts: 4,959 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Points: 745.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,245.00 Donate	You didn't happen to get some of this info from Elzie's SMBA guide, did you Ditters?

12-16-2003, 12:42 AM	#20
Antisocial Guest Posts: n/a Points: 0 Bank: 0 Total Points: 0 Donate	I'd like to express one more difference between Bowser Jr. and Baby Bowser: Bowser Jr. has small horns on his head. Baby Bowser has no horns at all. Thank you.