Ducktales - Page 3

Koga · 07-20-2005, 05:39 PM

I hate it when people tell me to play a certain game. I don't have a NES anymore and SNES games aren't widely available anymore. I would love to play a game like Super Metroid, but I can't easily get my hands on a copy. Besides my SNES isn't working that good anymore.

ROMs are not an option for me, as I hate to play with a keyboard sitting in my computer chair, staring at my 15" monitor.

Also, I wasn't saying you didn't have a point, just that you were overreacting. The games that have been GotW, were all popular, and all the ones that I've played were good ones as well. Tons of people may have played Ducktales, but they don't come here. I think it won with a 2-1 vote.

I'd also like to say that there have been many 3rd party titles on the nomination lists, but 1st party titles just got more votes. Ok, they weren't as obscure as the games that get nominated now, but there were certainly games beyond Mario, Zelda and DK.

DELICIOUS POISON · 07-20-2005, 05:52 PM

I'd hardly call material like Tecmo's football series or Mortal Kombat or Bionic Commando obscure. They're the cream of the crop.

If you've got something you want to see up there, nominate it.

[ July 20, 2005, 05:56 PM: Message edited by: SOCCER PRACTICE ]

Koga · 07-21-2005, 05:11 AM

I've never really participated in this system, being mod and all.

MK isn't obscure, but Tecmo football and Bionic Commando are not that well known. I assume it's American football so that explains why I haven't heard of it. Maybe it was big in the states. Bionic Commando doesn't ring a bell, though a few others seem to know it.

Anyway, I don't really care what's up there, but saying that it sickens you how many 1st and 2nd party games is definitely overreacting.

I think being a hardcore old school/classic gamer can be just as bad as being a fanboy.

Codiekitty · 07-21-2005, 10:35 AM

Bionic Commando's actually got a reputation around the Internet for its censor violations. I mean, it's still a fun, unique, challenging game, but quite a few people who've never actually played it know about what goes on in the ending.

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

Ghost Kitty · 07-21-2005, 12:04 PM

I nominate River City Ransome!

DELICIOUS POISON · 07-22-2005, 03:49 AM

Sorry Koga, but the fact that you're not familiar with some games doesn't make them obscure. System-wise, Bionic Commando and Tecmo's (yes, american) football franchise were both big sellers on the NES. Being off in the Netherlands, I could see how you're not familiar with either. I don't consider myself an oldschool gamer so much as that's what I grew up with, and am familiar with. It's not like I don't play current games, either. I'd be glad to nominate something if I catch the topic on time, as well.

And seriously, just because you're a mod doesn't mean you can't participate. Not to offend you, but you're still the Gameboy mod in my mind, anyway.

Koga · 07-22-2005, 05:05 AM

I'm sorry, but it just seemed to me you and Codie have that NES/SNES > better than current consoles attitude. Of course you can enjoy current games, just like I enjoy old school games.

It's not so much offensive as it isn't making any sense at all.

Codiekitty · 07-22-2005, 09:41 AM

Don't know where you got "Codie doesn't like anything past the SNES" from. Not only is it far from true, the entire thesis of my arguement has been "People around here need to play more third party stuff", not "old school stuff".

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

Koga · 07-22-2005, 02:14 PM

Well, in the other topic you also complained how the nominations for GotW were all from current consoles, so that's where I got that from.

Anyway, this dicussion is going nowhere, but I still stand by my point that you were exaggerating when you said the first to third party ratio sickened you.

DELICIOUS POISON · 07-22-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by The March Of The Black Queen:
I'm sorry, but it just seemed to me you and Codie have that NES/SNES > better than current consoles attitude. Of course you can enjoy current games, just like I enjoy old school games.

I'd definitely say people knew how to make a 2D platformer better back then, but I don't know about the other games being better. What current games suffer from is business practice. It's safer to produce a sequel. Problem with that is, very little fresh gameplay is produced anymore. When they change the mechanics of an older series simply for the hell of it, it bothers me a little. When they jam yet another game into a series, they'll compromise the storylines of old favorites.. This is because the games themselves were never made to provide for the terrible writing practices Nintendo manages to employ. There's no reason why they should have to jam games in between or before other ones. This is because they're too goddamned stupid to leave theirselves an out, or setup a proper sequel.

So, It's not that the games are bad. It's that companies like Nintendo don't respect the history of their games. The biggest issue with this is, of course, that Nintendo has only forged two new franchises with the newest generation.. Animal Crossing and Pikmin. The gameplay Pikmin employs doesn't interest me. Animal Crossing was a rehash release from the N64 in Japan.. A nice game, but not exactly the same as a powerful new series like Mario or Starfox or Metroid or DKC.
I don't really own many games made by Nintendo, this generation. If they make something new, I just might be all about it. Unfortunately, I pretty much see everything they're doing now to be really.. gimmicky. Which is definitely not cool.

There's a handful of newer games that interest me. But I can't afford much right now. I'd love to hit the PS2 market, if I could. I don't even have an X-box. Guaranteed I'll play anything newer on the GCN if I can, though. It was stupid of Sony to use the same Dual Shock design for the PS2 controllers.. Especially when most of the games really require you to use a stick.

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[ July 22, 2005, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: SOCCER PRACTICE ]

Koga · 07-22-2005, 05:14 PM

I'm actually somewhere in the middle as most of my favourite games are for the N64. I think the GameCube had good sequels to sports and party titles (1080, Wave Race, Mario Kart, SSBM), but the sequels of their main franchises were subpar. And like you said there aren't many new franchises.

07-20-2005, 05:39 PM	#41
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,095 Thanks: 104 Thanked 186 Times in 117 Posts Points: 109,260.07 Bank: 25,861.92 Total Points: 135,121.99 Donate	I hate it when people tell me to play a certain game. I don't have a NES anymore and SNES games aren't widely available anymore. I would love to play a game like Super Metroid, but I can't easily get my hands on a copy. Besides my SNES isn't working that good anymore. ROMs are not an option for me, as I hate to play with a keyboard sitting in my computer chair, staring at my 15" monitor. Also, I wasn't saying you didn't have a point, just that you were overreacting. The games that have been GotW, were all popular, and all the ones that I've played were good ones as well. Tons of people may have played Ducktales, but they don't come here. I think it won with a 2-1 vote. I'd also like to say that there have been many 3rd party titles on the nomination lists, but 1st party titles just got more votes. Ok, they weren't as obscure as the games that get nominated now, but there were certainly games beyond Mario, Zelda and DK.

07-20-2005, 05:52 PM	#42
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,925 Thanks: 579 Thanked 1,777 Times in 873 Posts Points: 17,833.57 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,338.12 Donate	I'd hardly call material like Tecmo's football series or Mortal Kombat or Bionic Commando obscure. They're the cream of the crop. If you've got something you want to see up there, nominate it. [ July 20, 2005, 05:56 PM: Message edited by: SOCCER PRACTICE ]

07-21-2005, 05:11 AM	#43
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,095 Thanks: 104 Thanked 186 Times in 117 Posts Points: 109,260.07 Bank: 25,861.92 Total Points: 135,121.99 Donate	I've never really participated in this system, being mod and all. MK isn't obscure, but Tecmo football and Bionic Commando are not that well known. I assume it's American football so that explains why I haven't heard of it. Maybe it was big in the states. Bionic Commando doesn't ring a bell, though a few others seem to know it. Anyway, I don't really care what's up there, but saying that it sickens you how many 1st and 2nd party games is definitely overreacting. I think being a hardcore old school/classic gamer can be just as bad as being a fanboy.

07-21-2005, 10:35 AM	#44
Codiekitty Just Another Face in Red Jumpsuit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lemmingland Gender: Posts: 19,143 Thanks: 121 Thanked 174 Times in 120 Posts Points: 51,219.72 Bank: 3,021,450.74 Total Points: 3,072,670.46 Donate	Bionic Commando's actually got a reputation around the Internet for its censor violations. I mean, it's still a fun, unique, challenging game, but quite a few people who've never actually played it know about what goes on in the ending. Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

07-21-2005, 12:04 PM	#45
Ghost Kitty Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The place... THE PLACE!!! Gender: Posts: 787 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Points: 11,220.87 Bank: 70.05 Total Points: 11,290.92 Donate	I nominate River City Ransome!

07-22-2005, 03:49 AM	#46
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,925 Thanks: 579 Thanked 1,777 Times in 873 Posts Points: 17,833.57 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,338.12 Donate	Sorry Koga, but the fact that you're not familiar with some games doesn't make them obscure. System-wise, Bionic Commando and Tecmo's (yes, american) football franchise were both big sellers on the NES. Being off in the Netherlands, I could see how you're not familiar with either. I don't consider myself an oldschool gamer so much as that's what I grew up with, and am familiar with. It's not like I don't play current games, either. I'd be glad to nominate something if I catch the topic on time, as well. And seriously, just because you're a mod doesn't mean you can't participate. Not to offend you, but you're still the Gameboy mod in my mind, anyway.

07-22-2005, 05:05 AM	#47
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,095 Thanks: 104 Thanked 186 Times in 117 Posts Points: 109,260.07 Bank: 25,861.92 Total Points: 135,121.99 Donate	I'm sorry, but it just seemed to me you and Codie have that NES/SNES > better than current consoles attitude. Of course you can enjoy current games, just like I enjoy old school games. It's not so much offensive as it isn't making any sense at all.

07-22-2005, 09:41 AM	#48
Codiekitty Just Another Face in Red Jumpsuit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lemmingland Gender: Posts: 19,143 Thanks: 121 Thanked 174 Times in 120 Posts Points: 51,219.72 Bank: 3,021,450.74 Total Points: 3,072,670.46 Donate	Don't know where you got "Codie doesn't like anything past the SNES" from. Not only is it far from true, the entire thesis of my arguement has been "People around here need to play more third party stuff", not "old school stuff". Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

07-22-2005, 02:14 PM	#49
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,095 Thanks: 104 Thanked 186 Times in 117 Posts Points: 109,260.07 Bank: 25,861.92 Total Points: 135,121.99 Donate	Well, in the other topic you also complained how the nominations for GotW were all from current consoles, so that's where I got that from. Anyway, this dicussion is going nowhere, but I still stand by my point that you were exaggerating when you said the first to third party ratio sickened you.

07-22-2005, 05:14 PM	#51
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,095 Thanks: 104 Thanked 186 Times in 117 Posts Points: 109,260.07 Bank: 25,861.92 Total Points: 135,121.99 Donate	I'm actually somewhere in the middle as most of my favourite games are for the N64. I think the GameCube had good sequels to sports and party titles (1080, Wave Race, Mario Kart, SSBM), but the sequels of their main franchises were subpar. And like you said there aren't many new franchises.