Mass Effect

Lurch1982 · 11-10-2007, 05:32 PM

Kicks ass. Have fun in 10 days chumpchanges.

Viva la broken street dates.

**Booyakasha** · 11-10-2007, 07:06 PM

Wow, well done. I consider myself the luckiest of men when I find some doofus at a Gamestop willing to sell the night before streetdate. How'd you swing it?

Oh, and how's the game? (Nearly forgot to ask.)

**Wyborn** · 11-10-2007, 07:10 PM

Lurch? Lurch, can you hear me?

I hope you die in a fire.

Lurch1982 · 11-10-2007, 10:31 PM

^^Kmart broke streetdate pretty much in the entire country except the west coast
As per impressions: Game of the Year. Period.

^Love ya Wy.

Lurch1982 · 11-15-2007, 12:43 PM

Just to update:

I'm about 15 to 20 hours in, and this game is still great.

Game of the Year. Period. No competition.

**Wyborn** · 11-15-2007, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lurch1982

Just to update:

I'm about 15 to 20 hours in, and this game is still great.

Game of the Year. Period. No competition.

Oh, we'll see. We'll all see.

Demonicus Prime · 11-15-2007, 06:50 PM

^What's it got to compete with, besides Halo 3?

**BEARD BURGER MASTER** · 11-15-2007, 09:51 PM

Huh, my brother got Mass Effect before release as well.

Lurch1982 · 11-15-2007, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonicus Prime

^What's it got to compete with, besides Halo 3?

Bioshock, Mario, Orange Box

Demonicus Prime · 11-16-2007, 07:17 AM

Ah, true. But I doubt BioShock will be a heavy contender. A 12 hour campaign with no multiplayer and absolutely no replay value isn't gonna beat Mass Effect, Halo, CoD4, Assassin's Creed, etc.

Anyway, with the character customizer, are you forced to be human, or can you be something else, like a Turian?

Lurch1982 · 11-16-2007, 11:35 AM

Humans only.

CoD4 gives like a 6 hour campaign and attempts to be a tactical shooter with no cover system (which makes it feel dated), while Assassin's Creed is getting mixed reviews. I'm not seeing either of those two in any serious running for overall GOTY.

**Wyborn** · 11-16-2007, 12:02 PM

Halo sure as Hell isn't in the running; Forge and Theater mode aside it does nothing especially new.

The four frontrunners for GOTY as of right now are probably Mass Effect, Bioshock, Orange Box, and Mario Galaxy. The first two for narrative, the third probably not couting because it is actually five games, and the fourth for being what is essentially the perfect platformer.

God of War 2 woulda been up there too because it's fantastic but everybody seems to have forgotten about it.

Demonicus Prime · 11-17-2007, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyborn

Mass Effect, and Mario Galaxy.

Okay, gotcha.

**Wyborn** · 11-17-2007, 05:50 PM

What makes you discount Bioshock, exactly? Or Portal?

Demonicus Prime · 11-17-2007, 08:55 PM

We need to pick one. Orange Box, or Portal? I'm not against Portal, I thought you meant the Orange Box. Maybe my bad.

And for BioShock, the absence of multiplayer for a Next Gen game is not a good sign, and the utter lack of replay value is shocking. Granted, the first time you play it, it's an amazing and beautiful game, but only the first time. It just loses it's luster.

My Hopes for GOTY are Mass Effect, Halo 3, COD4, Galaxy, and maybe one I forgot. I'll be happy if any of these win: I'm not solely rooting for Halo.

**Wyborn** · 11-17-2007, 10:01 PM

You'd put COD4 over Bioshock? Becaus of multiplayer? You realize Mass Effect is 1P only too, right?

Lurch1982 · 11-17-2007, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonicus Prime

We need to pick one. Orange Box, or Portal? I'm not against Portal, I thought you meant the Orange Box. Maybe my bad.

And for BioShock, the absence of multiplayer for a Next Gen game is not a good sign, and the utter lack of replay value is shocking. Granted, the first time you play it, it's an amazing and beautiful game, but only the first time. It just loses it's luster.

My Hopes for GOTY are Mass Effect, Halo 3, COD4, Galaxy, and maybe one I forgot. I'll be happy if any of these win: I'm not solely rooting for Halo.

Mass Effect doesn't have multiplayer.

Still doesn't get past the fact that Bioshock is leaps and bounds better than Halo 3 and CoD4's campaigns. It slams them both in narrative and in flow and action. Whereas I felt like Halo 3 had parts that just dragged on, Bioshock never had that. CoD4 was over before anyone realized it started, and the game as a whole feels antiquated compared to contemporary shooters, especially those that use cover systems.

Portal is in the Orange Box.

Demonicus Prime · 11-18-2007, 12:52 AM

*headdesk*

I don't mean just single player campaign. Like Mass Effect, with the worlds of other people, just not humanized. And yes, right now, I like the campaign of COD4 more than BioShock. I'm on my second runthrough.

And no, I don't put CoD4 over BioShock because of multiplayer. I put it ahead because you can play it more than once and enjoy it.

STOP LOOKING AT ME · 11-18-2007, 01:46 PM

I'm going to take a look at this "Mass Effect"

Soon.

Lurch1982 · 11-18-2007, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonicus Prime

*headdesk*

I don't mean just single player campaign. Like Mass Effect, with the worlds of other people, just not humanized. And yes, right now, I like the campaign of COD4 more than BioShock. I'm on my second runthrough.

And no, I don't put CoD4 over BioShock because of multiplayer. I put it ahead because you can play it more than once and enjoy it.

I don't understand the bolded part at all.

I'm trying to reconcile this:

Quote:

absence of multiplayer for a Next Gen game is not a good sign

with Mass Effect, which has absolutely no multiplayer and is about as replayable as, say, KotOR or Jade Empire.

CoD4 is the weakest of the "top shooter" lot (including Metroid Prime 3) because the campaign was weak and could be burned through in 5 hours. Also, no online co-op or splitscreens is just stupid. People throw out phrases like "generic shooter' against almost anything in the genre, and this game is one of the many reasons for it. Fundamentally, it doesn't do anything new, and it feels antiquated compared to everything else out. Halo (and Bioshock) doesn't have a cover system, but Halo also doesn't try to disguise itself as a tactical shooter (ala Clancy series). Missing the cover system is just inexcusable if you're trying to pack this up as a tactical shooter. If they put one in, the game is extremely solid and might have weight (though you're still looking at a very weak, very short campaign). The multiplayer is a good addition, though a bit noob unfriendly if you get started late. Really, if given the choice between a run-and-gun shooter, I'm taking Halo 3 because its a more fundamentally sound game.

Even all that said, Bioshock did more with the narrative than Halo 1-3 and CoD 1-4 combined. I don't mind the lack of multiplayer because I don't see how they could do anything worthwhile in the multiplayer without it being completely out of balanced and feel like just a generic tacked on mode. If Bioshock stuck with the original plan and went 3rd person through the entire game, there wouldn't be a question on it's validity even with lack of multiplayer.

11-10-2007, 05:32 PM	#1
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,271 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,139.71 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 374,864.82 Donate	Mass Effect Kicks ass. Have fun in 10 days chumpchanges. Viva la broken street dates.

11-10-2007, 07:06 PM	#2
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11-10-2007, 10:31 PM	#4
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,271 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,139.71 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 374,864.82 Donate	^^Kmart broke streetdate pretty much in the entire country except the west coast As per impressions: Game of the Year. Period. ^Love ya Wy. Last edited by Lurch1982; 11-10-2007 at 11:04 PM.

11-15-2007, 09:51 PM	#8
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11-16-2007, 11:35 AM	#11
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,271 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,139.71 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 374,864.82 Donate	Humans only. CoD4 gives like a 6 hour campaign and attempts to be a tactical shooter with no cover system (which makes it feel dated), while Assassin's Creed is getting mixed reviews. I'm not seeing either of those two in any serious running for overall GOTY. Last edited by Lurch1982; 11-16-2007 at 11:35 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

11-10-2007, 07:10 PM	#3
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,222.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,150.57 Donate	Lurch? Lurch, can you hear me? I hope you die in a fire.

11-15-2007, 12:43 PM	#5
Lurch1982 Senior Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Katrinaland, USA Gender: Posts: 9,271 Thanks: 122 Thanked 253 Times in 140 Posts Points: 36,139.71 Bank: 338,725.11 Total Points: 374,864.82 Donate	Just to update: I'm about 15 to 20 hours in, and this game is still great. Game of the Year. Period. No competition.

11-15-2007, 06:50 PM	#7
Demonicus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I Pity The Fool Who Confuses Me With Someone Other Than YoshiFreak. Gender: Posts: 2,991 Thanks: 597 Thanked 112 Times in 76 Posts Points: 19,867.63 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 19,867.63 Donate	^What's it got to compete with, besides Halo 3?

11-16-2007, 07:17 AM	#10
Demonicus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I Pity The Fool Who Confuses Me With Someone Other Than YoshiFreak. Gender: Posts: 2,991 Thanks: 597 Thanked 112 Times in 76 Posts Points: 19,867.63 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 19,867.63 Donate	Ah, true. But I doubt BioShock will be a heavy contender. A 12 hour campaign with no multiplayer and absolutely no replay value isn't gonna beat Mass Effect, Halo, CoD4, Assassin's Creed, etc. Anyway, with the character customizer, are you forced to be human, or can you be something else, like a Turian?

11-16-2007, 12:02 PM	#12
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,222.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,150.57 Donate	Halo sure as Hell isn't in the running; Forge and Theater mode aside it does nothing especially new. The four frontrunners for GOTY as of right now are probably Mass Effect, Bioshock, Orange Box, and Mario Galaxy. The first two for narrative, the third probably not couting because it is actually five games, and the fourth for being what is essentially the perfect platformer. God of War 2 woulda been up there too because it's fantastic but everybody seems to have forgotten about it. Last edited by Wyborn; 11-17-2007 at 05:50 PM.

11-17-2007, 05:50 PM	#14
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,222.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,150.57 Donate	What makes you discount Bioshock, exactly? Or Portal?

11-17-2007, 08:55 PM	#15
Demonicus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I Pity The Fool Who Confuses Me With Someone Other Than YoshiFreak. Gender: Posts: 2,991 Thanks: 597 Thanked 112 Times in 76 Posts Points: 19,867.63 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 19,867.63 Donate	We need to pick one. Orange Box, or Portal? I'm not against Portal, I thought you meant the Orange Box. Maybe my bad. And for BioShock, the absence of multiplayer for a Next Gen game is not a good sign, and the utter lack of replay value is shocking. Granted, the first time you play it, it's an amazing and beautiful game, but only the first time. It just loses it's luster. My Hopes for GOTY are Mass Effect, Halo 3, COD4, Galaxy, and maybe one I forgot. I'll be happy if any of these win: I'm not solely rooting for Halo.

11-17-2007, 10:01 PM	#16
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,222.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,150.57 Donate	You'd put COD4 over Bioshock? Becaus of multiplayer? You realize Mass Effect is 1P only too, right?

11-18-2007, 12:52 AM	#18
Demonicus Prime Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I Pity The Fool Who Confuses Me With Someone Other Than YoshiFreak. Gender: Posts: 2,991 Thanks: 597 Thanked 112 Times in 76 Posts Points: 19,867.63 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 19,867.63 Donate	headdesk I don't mean just single player campaign. Like Mass Effect, with the worlds of other people, just not humanized. And yes, right now, I like the campaign of COD4 more than BioShock. I'm on my second runthrough. And no, I don't put CoD4 over BioShock because of multiplayer. I put it ahead because you can play it more than once and enjoy it.

11-18-2007, 01:46 PM	#19
STOP LOOKING AT ME Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: YOU SAID THAT YOU KNEW ME AND I BELIEVED YOU DID Gender: Posts: 9,243 Thanks: 267 Thanked 577 Times in 424 Posts Blog Entries: 7 Points: 6,466.44 Bank: 74,653.97 Total Points: 81,120.40 Donate	I'm going to take a look at this "Mass Effect" Soon.