Left 4 Dead

Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed · 12-05-2009, 05:29 AM

(Edit: I forgot the 2 at the end of the topic so...discuss the first one as well I guess <_< >_>)

I've yet to acquire the game myself but from what I've played it's a hell of a game.

So discuss and things....

Eric · 12-05-2009, 11:05 AM

I LOVE this game.

I haven't got Left 4 Dead 2 yet but the demo is awesome. It just feels like an interactive horror movie.

My favorite understatement is Valve makes good games.

VALVE FTW!

ZeldaGirl · 12-05-2009, 02:07 PM

Normally I don't get into horror games, but I actually enjoy this one. Was playing it last night with some friends; it's just a good contribution to the whole 'zombie genre' and it's executed really well.

Redshirt · 12-05-2009, 03:34 PM

Ah yes killing millions of zombies in an attempt to survive to the next day, and it's so much fun even when you fail.

One of the few reasons I would get a Xbox360.

Chunky Kong12345 · 12-05-2009, 04:10 PM

safasdsa why is this in the xbox forum

Master of the Obvious · 12-05-2009, 05:05 PM

WHAT YOU MEAN THE PS3 HAS LEFT 4 DEAD ON IT ALSO? AWESOME.

**Kargath** · 12-05-2009, 07:58 PM

Beware - the game gets really repetitive really quickly.

ZeldaGirl · 12-05-2009, 08:28 PM

^Disagree.

Redshirt · 12-05-2009, 08:31 PM

^that

Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed · 12-05-2009, 10:05 PM

Playing with 4 friends on Expert means it won't get repetitive.

...

It just means...you die...alot.

ZeldaGirl · 12-05-2009, 10:08 PM

Not to mention the AI gauges how you are faring and playing in the game, and changes the gameplay based on that.

Redshirt · 12-05-2009, 10:19 PM

Nothing is scarier than turning a corner to come face to face with a hoard.

Chunky Kong12345 · 12-05-2009, 10:29 PM

i guess i can take my (superior

) PC experiences to this thread

versus is a blast as long as you have teammates who are friends, and pubbies who don't ragequit

also charger is new best class

**Kargath** · 12-06-2009, 01:53 AM

Oh, just noticed this was referring to number II...
I haven't tried number II.

Number I was really repetitive. Your enemy that you fight 90% of the time only has one behaviour (run in a straight line towards you). You only have two gun types. (Yes, you get upgrades, but they're still a shotgun and an automatic. The hunting rifle doesn't count because it's not a gun, it's a deathtrap for the wielder.) Every so often, you get attacked by a special, which if you're playing properly you melee-bash to death immediately.
In Versus, the Infected have huge respawn timers and only one real action each (suicide attack). In addition to this, the nature of the campaigns mean that you can still have half an hour to play and have a team that mathematically cannot catch up with their score.
The 'AI Director' was a great marketing ploy, but it turned out to be little more than a random number generator that determined whether you got weapons on one table or on another table later on.

The main problem is that there is little variation in interaction. Since there's only two guns and one type of enemy that fills almost all playtime, there is a hard design cap to the amount of gameplay variety and fun you can have.

ZeldaGirl · 12-06-2009, 02:53 AM

I was talking about 1. And I still disagree with you.

Jace VK · 12-06-2009, 07:04 AM

Both games have unlimited replay value when playing with friends, anything can happen and it can be hilarious.

I think I like L4D2 better, but I do believe the first had more atmosphere and better level design.

Chunky Kong12345 · 12-06-2009, 01:23 PM

my 200 hours in the first game and already 50 hours in the second disagree with your repetitive statement

**Loot the Orphan Shover** · 12-06-2009, 08:22 PM

In other news, Kargath died within five minutes of a zombie invasion when he felt the zombie attacks were getting too repetitive and tried a different approach.

Stay tuned as we break Chunky's PC with a 360 to prove which is better.

Chunky Kong12345 · 12-06-2009, 10:54 PM

Sorry brah but does the 360 get constant bugfixes and free DLC?

Dr. Furball · 12-10-2009, 05:18 PM

I love L4D. It's the only game on 360 my brother has that I legitimately enjoy past the "I dislike this game less than than the rest of your collection, so I guess we can play it" level.
My favorite to play as is Louis. Dunno why, but I guess it's because of his optimistic personality and being the most normal of the group. I usually beat things down instead of shooting them since Louis' fists have unlimited ammo.
I was sold on L4D2 when I heard that a frying pan and electric guitar were weapons in it.

12-05-2009, 11:05 AM	#2
Eric Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the fridge, getting a pepsi for my master. Gender: Posts: 1,196 Thanks: 186 Thanked 52 Times in 43 Posts Points: 2,414.03 Bank: 480.02 Total Points: 2,894.05 Donate	I LOVE this game. I haven't got Left 4 Dead 2 yet but the demo is awesome. It just feels like an interactive horror movie. My favorite understatement is Valve makes good games. VALVE FTW!

12-05-2009, 02:07 PM	#3
ZeldaGirl Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 14,840 Thanks: 838 Thanked 1,498 Times in 906 Posts Points: 65,246.43 Bank: 89,946,578.92 Total Points: 90,011,825.35 Donate	Normally I don't get into horror games, but I actually enjoy this one. Was playing it last night with some friends; it's just a good contribution to the whole 'zombie genre' and it's executed really well.

12-05-2009, 03:34 PM	#4
Redshirt Sci-Fi Mod Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Not VGF... Gender: Posts: 13,005 Thanks: 502 Thanked 804 Times in 570 Posts Blog Entries: 29 Points: 6,740.05 Bank: 9,200.22 Total Points: 15,940.27 Donate	Ah yes killing millions of zombies in an attempt to survive to the next day, and it's so much fun even when you fail. One of the few reasons I would get a Xbox360.

12-05-2009, 04:10 PM	#5
Chunky Kong12345 my avatar's not different at all is it Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: some kind of froody spaceship Gender: Posts: 19,786 Thanks: 105 Thanked 608 Times in 400 Posts Points: 17,194.04 Bank: 25,342,450.78 Total Points: 25,359,644.82 Donate	safasdsa why is this in the xbox forum

12-05-2009, 05:05 PM	#6
Master of the Obvious Anime mod? I think so... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In my pants Gender: Posts: 3,979 Thanks: 2,107 Thanked 594 Times in 343 Posts Points: 77,140.95 Bank: 1,184,099.08 Total Points: 1,261,240.03 Donate	WHAT YOU MEAN THE PS3 HAS LEFT 4 DEAD ON IT ALSO? AWESOME.

12-05-2009, 07:58 PM	#7
Kargath "Ask me questions. We have all the time in the world." (Polls Mod) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: kargath64.deviantart.com Gender: Posts: 6,691 Thanks: 956 Thanked 531 Times in 335 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 72,437.02 Bank: 50,544,350.50 Total Points: 50,616,787.52 Donate	Beware - the game gets really repetitive really quickly.

12-05-2009, 08:28 PM	#8
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12-05-2009, 08:31 PM	#9
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12-05-2009, 10:05 PM	#10
Speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: If there's a bright center to the universe I'm on the planet it's farthest from Gender: Posts: 3,447 Thanks: 1,450 Thanked 289 Times in 206 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 5,261.62 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,261.62 Donate	Playing with 4 friends on Expert means it won't get repetitive. ... It just means...you die...alot.

12-05-2009, 10:08 PM	#11
ZeldaGirl Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 14,840 Thanks: 838 Thanked 1,498 Times in 906 Posts Points: 65,246.43 Bank: 89,946,578.92 Total Points: 90,011,825.35 Donate	Not to mention the AI gauges how you are faring and playing in the game, and changes the gameplay based on that.

12-05-2009, 10:19 PM	#12
Redshirt Sci-Fi Mod Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Not VGF... Gender: Posts: 13,005 Thanks: 502 Thanked 804 Times in 570 Posts Blog Entries: 29 Points: 6,740.05 Bank: 9,200.22 Total Points: 15,940.27 Donate	Nothing is scarier than turning a corner to come face to face with a hoard.

12-05-2009, 10:29 PM	#13
Chunky Kong12345 my avatar's not different at all is it Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: some kind of froody spaceship Gender: Posts: 19,786 Thanks: 105 Thanked 608 Times in 400 Posts Points: 17,194.04 Bank: 25,342,450.78 Total Points: 25,359,644.82 Donate	i guess i can take my (superior ) PC experiences to this thread versus is a blast as long as you have teammates who are friends, and pubbies who don't ragequit also charger is new best class

12-06-2009, 01:53 AM	#14
Kargath "Ask me questions. We have all the time in the world." (Polls Mod) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: kargath64.deviantart.com Gender: Posts: 6,691 Thanks: 956 Thanked 531 Times in 335 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 72,437.02 Bank: 50,544,350.50 Total Points: 50,616,787.52 Donate	Oh, just noticed this was referring to number II... I haven't tried number II. Number I was really repetitive. Your enemy that you fight 90% of the time only has one behaviour (run in a straight line towards you). You only have two gun types. (Yes, you get upgrades, but they're still a shotgun and an automatic. The hunting rifle doesn't count because it's not a gun, it's a deathtrap for the wielder.) Every so often, you get attacked by a special, which if you're playing properly you melee-bash to death immediately. In Versus, the Infected have huge respawn timers and only one real action each (suicide attack). In addition to this, the nature of the campaigns mean that you can still have half an hour to play and have a team that mathematically cannot catch up with their score. The 'AI Director' was a great marketing ploy, but it turned out to be little more than a random number generator that determined whether you got weapons on one table or on another table later on. The main problem is that there is little variation in interaction. Since there's only two guns and one type of enemy that fills almost all playtime, there is a hard design cap to the amount of gameplay variety and fun you can have.

12-06-2009, 02:53 AM	#15
ZeldaGirl Venting SuperMod Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Why do YOU want to know...? Gender: Posts: 14,840 Thanks: 838 Thanked 1,498 Times in 906 Posts Points: 65,246.43 Bank: 89,946,578.92 Total Points: 90,011,825.35 Donate	I was talking about 1. And I still disagree with you.

12-06-2009, 07:04 AM	#16
Jace VK Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Gender: Posts: 1,556 Thanks: 80 Thanked 31 Times in 26 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 6,183.82 Bank: 44,710.11 Total Points: 50,893.93 Donate	Both games have unlimited replay value when playing with friends, anything can happen and it can be hilarious. I think I like L4D2 better, but I do believe the first had more atmosphere and better level design.

12-06-2009, 01:23 PM	#17
Chunky Kong12345 my avatar's not different at all is it Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: some kind of froody spaceship Gender: Posts: 19,786 Thanks: 105 Thanked 608 Times in 400 Posts Points: 17,194.04 Bank: 25,342,450.78 Total Points: 25,359,644.82 Donate	my 200 hours in the first game and already 50 hours in the second disagree with your repetitive statement

12-06-2009, 08:22 PM	#18
Loot the Orphan Shover Has earned the achievement "Meanie" Join Date: May 2001 Location: At this point, in a DP factory. Gender: Posts: 8,957 Thanks: 132 Thanked 678 Times in 350 Posts Points: 5,355.55 Bank: 3,519,547.38 Total Points: 3,524,902.92 Donate	In other news, Kargath died within five minutes of a zombie invasion when he felt the zombie attacks were getting too repetitive and tried a different approach. Stay tuned as we break Chunky's PC with a 360 to prove which is better.

12-06-2009, 10:54 PM	#19
Chunky Kong12345 my avatar's not different at all is it Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: some kind of froody spaceship Gender: Posts: 19,786 Thanks: 105 Thanked 608 Times in 400 Posts Points: 17,194.04 Bank: 25,342,450.78 Total Points: 25,359,644.82 Donate	Sorry brah but does the 360 get constant bugfixes and free DLC?

12-10-2009, 05:18 PM	#20
Dr. Furball Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mad Science Academy, 12th Floor Gender: Posts: 1,068 Thanks: 181 Thanked 89 Times in 56 Posts Points: 16,863.56 Bank: 89,833.77 Total Points: 106,697.33 Donate	I love L4D. It's the only game on 360 my brother has that I legitimately enjoy past the "I dislike this game less than than the rest of your collection, so I guess we can play it" level. My favorite to play as is Louis. Dunno why, but I guess it's because of his optimistic personality and being the most normal of the group. I usually beat things down instead of shooting them since Louis' fists have unlimited ammo. I was sold on L4D2 when I heard that a frying pan and electric guitar were weapons in it.