Twilight Princess: Let the speculation begin!

**Cravdraa** · 07-12-2006, 01:03 AM

I think we've all been waiting for Twilight Princess to come out for a very long time, but what, exactly, have we been waiting for? We've learn so much and yet so little about TP. We've seen new items like the Gale Boomerage and Magnet boots. We've seen strange holes open up in the sky and Link transform into a wolf. We've seen amazing horse-back combat and horrible (in a good way) new monsters.

But what does it all mean? More importantly, what would you like it to mean? What do you want to see in Twilight Princess and why? What do you make of the clues we already have? Give details! Just imagine and share.

DELICIOUS POISON · 07-12-2006, 01:18 AM

I don't have much to base speculation on, but from what I have seen.. I think it's entirely possible that they might play up the imprisoning war alley. I think that would honestly be too good to be true, but it would be wonderful to actually have it set in canon in greater detail than the simple stories from the LttP's intro. I've always assumed that OoT was the telling of the imprisoning war, but according to the end of the game.. the "war", if you could call it that, never really happened. All was restored to normal, and Link was placed once again in the past. It's truly an exciting possibility.

Jace Mario · 07-12-2006, 06:50 AM

My god, im soooooo exited about this game. Well yeah, Links 'Friend' helps him, and turned him into a wolf. wtf? Yeah, so i dont really know much...

Golden Ganon · 07-12-2006, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Psytronic

I don't have much to base speculation on, but from what I have seen.. I think it's entirely possible that they might play up the imprisoning war alley. I think that would honestly be too good to be true, but it would be wonderful to actually have it set in canon in greater detail than the simple stories from the LttP's intro. I've always assumed that OoT was the telling of the imprisoning war, but according to the end of the game.. the "war", if you could call it that, never really happened. All was restored to normal, and Link was placed once again in the past. It's truly an exciting possibility.

Indeed. The war never happened.

After Link comes back he is in a whole different dimension.

The Adult phase would be a whole different dimension if the war never happened.

Meaning at the end of OoT Ganondorf is in a whole different place that never existed.
Here is my question: How does Ganondorf keep coming back?

If he is trapped in a dimension that never existed wouldn't be impossible for Ganondorf to ever come back?

Is there any possible way from keeping Ganondorf from ever coming back?

Well there is one: KILL HIM! NO SACRED REALM ANYMORE! NO MAKING GANONDORF A STONE STATUE! JUST KILL HIM! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

MC Luigi · 07-12-2006, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceVK

My god, im soooooo exited about this game. Well yeah, Links 'Friend' helps him, and turned him into a wolf. wtf? Yeah, so i dont really know much...

Midna did not transform him. Hyrule was overpowered by something, causing it to become the Twilight Realm. He entered it and the power was too much for Link to bear. Thus, he transformed.
And this might be a liitle old, but I HIGHLY believe the Twilight Princess is Zelda. Obviously the one from OOT, being that this is MM and OOT's sequel. So there's no descendants involved, like in WW. May I remind everyone that this is 10-15 years after OOT, and it is the same Link from that game.

blackfire388 · 07-12-2006, 05:37 PM

when is it coming out i wanna play!!!

**Cravdraa** · 07-12-2006, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Luigi 128

Midna did not transform him. Hyrule was overpowered by something, causing it to become the Twilight Realm. He entered it and the power was too much for Link to bear. Thus, he transformed.
And this might be a liitle old, but I HIGHLY believe the Twilight Princess is Zelda. Obviously the one from OOT, being that this is MM and OOT's sequel. So there's no descendants involved, like in WW. May I remind everyone that this is 10-15 years after OOT, and it is the same Link from that game.

Don't spread bad info as fact. It's never actualy been stated exactly when the game takes place. It HAS been stated that the Link in this game has never been in another game before. This is a new Link, that much we know.

The game is supposed to come out in November, on the same day as the Wii. It's seems like such a long time...

MC Luigi · 07-12-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cravdraa

Don't spread bad info as fact. It's never actualy been stated exactly when the game takes place. It HAS been stated that the Link in this game has never been in another game before. This is a new Link, that much we know.

The game is supposed to come out in November, on the same day as the Wii. It's seems like such a long time...

Bad info? Once I find proof, I'll post it. If not, then I'll admit I'm wrong. But I don't give up arguements easily, I'll have you know.

**Cravdraa** · 07-12-2006, 07:35 PM

And I don't call info bad unless it's bad info. =p

MC Luigi · 07-12-2006, 07:41 PM

Ah, I see. I guess I haven't been up to date on TP info...... on http://www.unlimitedgamer.net/covera...oz_preview.php , its says that it is not 10 years later, but a few decades later, with a different Link. So I was wrong.

**Cravdraa** · 07-12-2006, 08:00 PM

No problem, I'm just trying to keep what we already accurate. There's enough rumors and such going around that we don't need to add to it with stuff that's already been discredited.

Zavval · 07-12-2006, 10:46 PM

Yea, and Zelda is the Twilight Princess. That was obvious when the game's title was first announced.

As for me, I've been speculating the possibility of Link's death in this game. I highly doubt it will happen, but the dreary tone of the game, plus the opening story of Wind Waker have made me consider it. All we know for sure from Wind Waker is that Ganon came back and the world became so terrible the Goddesses flooded it to purge the world. Where was Link during all of this? Did he try to stop Ganon and fail? Or did Link disagree with the Goddesses' decision and try to stop them and die in the process?

Like I said, I highly doubt Link will die. Either way I don't think there will be a happy ending. I'm expecting another bittersweet ending like OoT's.

Golden Ganon · 07-13-2006, 03:56 AM

OoT's ending will be far worse than TP's ending, belive me.

Zavval · 07-13-2006, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ultimate ganon

OoT's ending will be far better than TP's ending, belive me.

Oh? And how exactly do you know this? Have you played the game? Beaten it? Seen the ending?

That's great and all considering the game hasn't even been released yet.

**Cravdraa** · 07-13-2006, 04:37 PM

I'm interested in the large tree-like creature in the one movie. It doesn't seem to be an ememy.

As for the Twilight realm, my guess is that it isn't Hyrule. Much of Hyrule is undoubtedly under the influence of the "twilight," but I think the actual Twilight realm is something else, maybe along the lines of the dark world. There was some footage of creatures coming out of portals that opened in the sky. My bet is that those portals lead to the actual twilight realm and that the areas that fall under their control become dark and twilightish.

MC Luigi · 07-13-2006, 04:56 PM

that's pretty much what I was tryna say....

Viceroy Nute Gunray · 07-13-2006, 05:10 PM

I wanna see Link have sex with Epona.

Golden Ganon · 07-13-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ultimate ganon

OoT's ending will be far worse than TP's ending, belive me.

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Originally Posted by Zavval

Oh? And how exactly do you know this? Have you played the game? Beaten it? Seen the ending?

That's great and all considering the game hasn't even been released yet.

I am sorry I meant to say worse and how do I know?

I have that feeling about that game.

I feel the ending will not be good.

**Cravdraa** · 07-13-2006, 07:51 PM

Ah, you meant worse as in a dark ending, not lower in quality. Got ya.

Zavval · 07-13-2006, 08:06 PM

Agreed, thanks for the clarification.

I too would like to know what the giant tree-like thing is. It looks stationary to me, like a statue. But it still looks rather deformed and monster like. I also want to know where the opening in the tree in front of it leads.

07-12-2006, 01:03 AM	#1
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07-13-2006, 03:56 AM	#13
Golden Ganon Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: North Dakota, U.S. Gender: Posts: 3,398 Thanks: 38 Thanked 67 Times in 60 Posts Points: 14,120.56 Bank: 105.10 Total Points: 14,225.66 Donate	OoT's ending will be far worse than TP's ending, belive me. Last edited by ultimate ganon; 07-13-2006 at 05:10 PM.

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DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,925 Thanks: 579 Thanked 1,777 Times in 873 Posts Points: 17,851.57 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,356.12 Donate	I don't have much to base speculation on, but from what I have seen.. I think it's entirely possible that they might play up the imprisoning war alley. I think that would honestly be too good to be true, but it would be wonderful to actually have it set in canon in greater detail than the simple stories from the LttP's intro. I've always assumed that OoT was the telling of the imprisoning war, but according to the end of the game.. the "war", if you could call it that, never really happened. All was restored to normal, and Link was placed once again in the past. It's truly an exciting possibility.

07-12-2006, 06:50 AM	#3
Jace Mario Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Gender: Posts: 1,468 Thanks: 59 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts Blog Entries: 1 Points: 8,314.82 Bank: 14,260.93 Total Points: 22,575.75 Donate	My god, im soooooo exited about this game. Well yeah, Links 'Friend' helps him, and turned him into a wolf. wtf? Yeah, so i dont really know much...

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blackfire388 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: orgen Gender: Posts: 5 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,834.09 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 1,834.09 Donate	when is it coming out i wanna play!!!

07-12-2006, 07:35 PM	#9
Cravdraa VGF RPG Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 54 Thanked 210 Times in 141 Posts Points: 29,872.23 Bank: 2,004,930.94 Total Points: 2,034,803.17 Donate	And I don't call info bad unless it's bad info. =p

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MC Luigi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In YO FACE Gender: Posts: 1,033 Thanks: 41 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Points: 11,050.64 Bank: 23,165.44 Total Points: 34,216.07 Donate	Ah, I see. I guess I haven't been up to date on TP info...... on http://www.unlimitedgamer.net/covera...oz_preview.php , its says that it is not 10 years later, but a few decades later, with a different Link. So I was wrong.

07-12-2006, 08:00 PM	#11
Cravdraa VGF RPG Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 54 Thanked 210 Times in 141 Posts Points: 29,872.23 Bank: 2,004,930.94 Total Points: 2,034,803.17 Donate	No problem, I'm just trying to keep what we already accurate. There's enough rumors and such going around that we don't need to add to it with stuff that's already been discredited.

07-12-2006, 10:46 PM	#12
Zavval Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Gender: Posts: 324 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 1,737.67 Bank: 743.27 Total Points: 2,480.94 Donate	Yea, and Zelda is the Twilight Princess. That was obvious when the game's title was first announced. As for me, I've been speculating the possibility of Link's death in this game. I highly doubt it will happen, but the dreary tone of the game, plus the opening story of Wind Waker have made me consider it. All we know for sure from Wind Waker is that Ganon came back and the world became so terrible the Goddesses flooded it to purge the world. Where was Link during all of this? Did he try to stop Ganon and fail? Or did Link disagree with the Goddesses' decision and try to stop them and die in the process? Like I said, I highly doubt Link will die. Either way I don't think there will be a happy ending. I'm expecting another bittersweet ending like OoT's.

07-13-2006, 04:37 PM	#15
Cravdraa VGF RPG Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 54 Thanked 210 Times in 141 Posts Points: 29,872.23 Bank: 2,004,930.94 Total Points: 2,034,803.17 Donate	I'm interested in the large tree-like creature in the one movie. It doesn't seem to be an ememy. As for the Twilight realm, my guess is that it isn't Hyrule. Much of Hyrule is undoubtedly under the influence of the "twilight," but I think the actual Twilight realm is something else, maybe along the lines of the dark world. There was some footage of creatures coming out of portals that opened in the sky. My bet is that those portals lead to the actual twilight realm and that the areas that fall under their control become dark and twilightish.

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MC Luigi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In YO FACE Gender: Posts: 1,033 Thanks: 41 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Points: 11,050.64 Bank: 23,165.44 Total Points: 34,216.07 Donate	that's pretty much what I was tryna say....

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Viceroy Nute Gunray Fallen Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: new york Gender: Posts: 35,822 Thanks: 187 Thanked 129 Times in 92 Posts Points: 92,255.99 Bank: 38,699.14 Total Points: 130,955.13 Donate	I wanna see Link have sex with Epona.

07-13-2006, 07:51 PM	#19
Cravdraa VGF RPG Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 54 Thanked 210 Times in 141 Posts Points: 29,872.23 Bank: 2,004,930.94 Total Points: 2,034,803.17 Donate	Ah, you meant worse as in a dark ending, not lower in quality. Got ya.

07-13-2006, 08:06 PM	#20
Zavval Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Gender: Posts: 324 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 1,737.67 Bank: 743.27 Total Points: 2,480.94 Donate	Agreed, thanks for the clarification. I too would like to know what the giant tree-like thing is. It looks stationary to me, like a statue. But it still looks rather deformed and monster like. I also want to know where the opening in the tree in front of it leads.