AM I the only one who doesn't remember OoT being this easy? - VGF

Bomby · 08-13-2006, 12:25 PM

Last night I started a new game. I rushed through the Deku Tree and beat the boss in literally less than 20 seconds.

Maybe I've just played it too many times.

Cravdraa · 08-13-2006, 12:31 PM

Not really, OoT has always been almost painfully easy.

Kae · 08-13-2006, 03:27 PM

The thing that really makes OoT difficult to replay after a while is not being able to skip the long cutscenes...

Viceroy Nute Gunray · 08-13-2006, 03:34 PM

You couldn't have beaten Inside the Deku Tree is under 20 seconds...

Koga · 08-13-2006, 04:22 PM

I think he meant he beat the boss in under 20 seconds.

I didn't think it was extremely easy the first time I played through it. I literally spend days figuring out the Forest and the Water temple. And those were days in my Christmas break when I spend alsmot every waking hour playing the game. I eventually asked a friend how to get through the last part of the Forest Temple (I had no idea you could push the room around), but I solved the Water Temple myself

Some of the boss battles were pretty tough at first, especially Volvagia. I think I died 15 times the first time I played through it (in total, not just against Volvagia). I would say that apart from the NES games it's not really much easier or harder than any other Zelda game.

ADVENTURE BUS · 08-13-2006, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Koga

I think he meant he beat the boss in under 20 seconds.

I didn't think it was extremely easy the first time I played through it. I literally spend days figuring out the Forest and the Water temple. And those were days in my Christmas break when I spend alsmot every waking hour playing the game. I eventually asked a friend how to get through the last part of the Forest Temple (I had no idea you could push the room around), but I solved the Water Temple myself

Some of the boss battles were pretty tough at first, especially Volvagia. I think I died 15 times the first time I played through it (in total, not just against Volvagia). I would say that apart from the NES games it's not really much easier or harder than any other Zelda game.

Me and my brothers worked together tryin to beat the game. I remember the easiest to get through being the Forest and Water temple. Fire was a bit harder, but Volvagia was easy. Shadow to me was the hardest though. When Ollie and I went back and beat the game again, we discovered the light arrows aren't necessary to defeat Ganon.

Deviot · 08-13-2006, 07:26 PM

Only Bongo Bongo gives me trouble, the rest is relatively easy. Except for the Heart Piece that you get in Dampe's Grave, but that's about it.

Codiekitty · 08-13-2006, 09:23 PM

I actually don't recall struggling against Bongo Bongo as much as everyone else. I do remember having issues with the Water Temple boss (and I always hate doing the Water Temple), whatever it was called.

I thought the Light Arrows were necessary? There was no way to make Ganondorf vulernerable was to shoot him with one? Though if when you say Ganon you mean his transformation, yes, the Light Arrows aren't needed.

If Ocarina of Time has gotten to the point where you could play it blindfolded, try Alundra for the PSX. The only thing I wish that game had was a better sense of depth perception. But the bosses aren't bad (there's some real annoyances, though. Zorgia and Melzas's dragon take forever to kill. And Melzas's first form is so pathetic, the second time I fought it [because his second form kicked my ass] I didn't get hit once), and the puzzles are great (I swear, that pillar sliding puzzle to get the Ice Wand took me over an hour to solve, and the fact I did it without an FAQ makes me feel damn great about myself).

Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

GRENTLEMEN · 08-13-2006, 09:58 PM

The gameplay has always been easy. Honestly, it's just that gamers have been overexposed to that basic form of puzzles - especially in the recent Zelda series.

***Ace Mercury*** · 08-13-2006, 10:10 PM

I think it's case the first time, it's more interesting. You have to identify the weak spot (not too hard, most of the time), analyze its patterns, and attack the weak point (for massive damage). Maybe you're even a bit sketchy on the controls, so you don't whip out your slingshot when she climbs on the ceiling. On further playthroughs, it's just memory work. In fact, you can abuse your knowledge of the game and use Deku sticks and jump attacks for double/quadruple damage.

The same sort of thing happens with other games, most notable in my mind Shadow of the Colossus, mainly because it's all about the boss fights.

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Originally Posted by CodieKitty

(I swear, that pillar sliding puzzle to get the Ice Wand took me over an hour to solve, and the fact I did it without an FAQ makes me feel damn great about myself).

Yeah, that damn ice puzzle... it nearly broke me. I don't even remember how I passed that puzzle, and seriously considered I was missing something. Working Designs rocks!

Bomby · 08-13-2006, 10:39 PM

In reply to earlier posts, yes, I beat the boss in 20 seconds, not the whole temple.

Even upon my many multiple restarts of that game, I don't think I ever beat the first level boss anywhere near that quickly. Shot her in the eye, started slashing, she climbed to the cieling, shot her in the eye again, started slashing a second time, then all of the sudden... bam! She's dead!

BrandonTragedy · 08-13-2006, 11:06 PM

Gannon was hard to beat at first.

maj700 · 08-13-2006, 11:16 PM

El Barto · 08-14-2006, 12:43 AM

I died many, many times fighting Ghoma for the first time. I read Navi's advice on how to kill the thing- something about being vulnerable when her eyes are red- and I figured that meant attacking with the sword. Unfortunately, that does nothing to Ghoma and usually results in some damage to Link. It's sort of hard to believe, in retrospect, that it took me that long to figure the actual way out. But I was new to the series, and I didn't know the rule, "Any weapon found in a dungeon will be necessary against that dungeon's boss."

I generally find that in any of the 3D Zelda games, once you get a decent number of heart containers, dying only happens when you get seriously careless or don't know how to beat a boss.

The Missing Link · 08-14-2006, 01:38 AM

Koga · 08-14-2006, 05:16 AM

^ cameo!

I wan't surprised that you could beat Gohma that fast. In fact, I enjoy beating her as fast as possible.

The Missing Link · 08-14-2006, 07:40 AM

^ Were this the Xbox 360 forum, you'd be required to say "Kameo".

But seriously, every game that is quasi-puzzley becomes easier with each playthrough since you remember most of the tricks of the trade. Ocarina is most certainly no exception.

ScottyMcGee · 08-14-2006, 11:17 AM

The sword jump attack does double damage, you can beat any boss even faster doing that move.
The only thing I found hard in that game was trying to find all the Heart Containers and Golden Skulltullas.
But even so, it's an awesome game. I loved the part where you have to escape Ganon's Castle as it's falling apart.

Cravdraa · 08-14-2006, 11:31 AM

Just for the record TML, you're required to at least stop by and share your opinions on Twilight Princess when it comes out. Otherwise I'll be forced to bother you over at Zeldablog.

08-13-2006, 12:25 PM	#1
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08-13-2006, 11:16 PM	#13
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08-14-2006, 01:38 AM	#15
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08-13-2006, 03:27 PM	#3
Kae Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Gender: Posts: 3,697 Thanks: 40 Thanked 67 Times in 55 Posts Points: 9,217.88 Bank: 2,736.82 Total Points: 11,954.70 Donate	The thing that really makes OoT difficult to replay after a while is not being able to skip the long cutscenes...

08-13-2006, 03:34 PM	#4
Viceroy Nute Gunray Fallen Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: new york Gender: Posts: 35,823 Thanks: 187 Thanked 129 Times in 92 Posts Points: 85,009.99 Bank: 38,699.14 Total Points: 123,709.13 Donate	You couldn't have beaten Inside the Deku Tree is under 20 seconds...

08-13-2006, 04:22 PM	#5
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 177 Times in 119 Posts Points: 104,115.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 121,867.82 Donate	I think he meant he beat the boss in under 20 seconds. I didn't think it was extremely easy the first time I played through it. I literally spend days figuring out the Forest and the Water temple. And those were days in my Christmas break when I spend alsmot every waking hour playing the game. I eventually asked a friend how to get through the last part of the Forest Temple (I had no idea you could push the room around), but I solved the Water Temple myself Some of the boss battles were pretty tough at first, especially Volvagia. I think I died 15 times the first time I played through it (in total, not just against Volvagia). I would say that apart from the NES games it's not really much easier or harder than any other Zelda game.

08-13-2006, 07:26 PM	#7
Deviot Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mt. Moon Gender: Posts: 935 Thanks: 9 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts Points: 5,126.98 Bank: 7,137.10 Total Points: 12,264.08 Donate	Only Bongo Bongo gives me trouble, the rest is relatively easy. Except for the Heart Piece that you get in Dampe's Grave, but that's about it.

08-13-2006, 09:23 PM	#8
Codiekitty Just Another Face in Red Jumpsuit Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lemmingland Gender: Posts: 19,143 Thanks: 121 Thanked 175 Times in 120 Posts Points: 42,869.72 Bank: 3,021,450.74 Total Points: 3,064,320.46 Donate	I actually don't recall struggling against Bongo Bongo as much as everyone else. I do remember having issues with the Water Temple boss (and I always hate doing the Water Temple), whatever it was called. I thought the Light Arrows were necessary? There was no way to make Ganondorf vulernerable was to shoot him with one? Though if when you say Ganon you mean his transformation, yes, the Light Arrows aren't needed. If Ocarina of Time has gotten to the point where you could play it blindfolded, try Alundra for the PSX. The only thing I wish that game had was a better sense of depth perception. But the bosses aren't bad (there's some real annoyances, though. Zorgia and Melzas's dragon take forever to kill. And Melzas's first form is so pathetic, the second time I fought it [because his second form kicked my ass] I didn't get hit once), and the puzzles are great (I swear, that pillar sliding puzzle to get the Ice Wand took me over an hour to solve, and the fact I did it without an FAQ makes me feel damn great about myself). Where are these lemmings going? The Super Nintendo Super Shire! Hop in line and follow them there!

08-13-2006, 09:58 PM	#9
GRENTLEMEN Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 15,831 Thanks: 449 Thanked 1,133 Times in 618 Posts Points: 4,734.37 Bank: 1,759,285.16 Total Points: 1,764,019.53 Donate	The gameplay has always been easy. Honestly, it's just that gamers have been overexposed to that basic form of puzzles - especially in the recent Zelda series.

08-13-2006, 10:39 PM	#11
Bomby Song 2 : Whoo Hoo Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Mad City, WI Gender: Posts: 14,595 Thanks: 198 Thanked 436 Times in 307 Posts Blog Entries: 4 Points: 1,464.08 Bank: 1,857,551.93 Total Points: 1,859,016.01 Donate	In reply to earlier posts, yes, I beat the boss in 20 seconds, not the whole temple. Even upon my many multiple restarts of that game, I don't think I ever beat the first level boss anywhere near that quickly. Shot her in the eye, started slashing, she climbed to the cieling, shot her in the eye again, started slashing a second time, then all of the sudden... bam! She's dead!

08-13-2006, 11:06 PM	#12
BrandonTragedy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dirty Looks Gender: Posts: 8,040 Thanks: 212 Thanked 145 Times in 125 Posts Points: 11,666.58 Bank: 97,143.05 Total Points: 108,809.63 Donate	Gannon was hard to beat at first.

08-14-2006, 12:43 AM	#14
El Barto Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,708 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 1,482.12 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,982.12 Donate	I died many, many times fighting Ghoma for the first time. I read Navi's advice on how to kill the thing- something about being vulnerable when her eyes are red- and I figured that meant attacking with the sword. Unfortunately, that does nothing to Ghoma and usually results in some damage to Link. It's sort of hard to believe, in retrospect, that it took me that long to figure the actual way out. But I was new to the series, and I didn't know the rule, "Any weapon found in a dungeon will be necessary against that dungeon's boss." I generally find that in any of the 3D Zelda games, once you get a decent number of heart containers, dying only happens when you get seriously careless or don't know how to beat a boss.

08-14-2006, 05:16 AM	#16
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,093 Thanks: 104 Thanked 177 Times in 119 Posts Points: 104,115.41 Bank: 17,752.41 Total Points: 121,867.82 Donate	^ cameo! I wan't surprised that you could beat Gohma that fast. In fact, I enjoy beating her as fast as possible.

08-14-2006, 07:40 AM	#17
The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 15,573 Thanks: 80 Thanked 183 Times in 110 Posts Points: 6,308.15 Bank: 54,243.76 Total Points: 60,551.91 Donate	^ Were this the Xbox 360 forum, you'd be required to say "Kameo". But seriously, every game that is quasi-puzzley becomes easier with each playthrough since you remember most of the tricks of the trade. Ocarina is most certainly no exception.

08-14-2006, 11:17 AM	#18
ScottyMcGee Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: the far side of the moon Gender: Posts: 180 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Points: 9,335.17 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 9,335.17 Donate	The sword jump attack does double damage, you can beat any boss even faster doing that move. The only thing I found hard in that game was trying to find all the Heart Containers and Golden Skulltullas. But even so, it's an awesome game. I loved the part where you have to escape Ganon's Castle as it's falling apart.

08-14-2006, 11:31 AM	#19
Cravdraa Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,566 Thanks: 49 Thanked 81 Times in 52 Posts Points: 29,973.40 Bank: 648,469.61 Total Points: 678,443.01 Donate	Just for the record TML, you're required to at least stop by and share your opinions on Twilight Princess when it comes out. Otherwise I'll be forced to bother you over at Zeldablog.