Twilight Princess gets a...

X-3 · 11-17-2006, 09:58 PM

8.8 from GameSpot
9.5 from IGN
5/5 from GameSpy
10 from Game Informer
10 from Computer & Video Games UK
4.5/5 from Yahoo! Games
10 from Games Radar
4.5/5 from Game Daily
10 from 1UP
98/100 from Toychest

Edited from previous, pretty dumb topic to show scores seen on GameRankings.

**Booyakasha** · 11-17-2006, 10:45 PM

The fanboys won't be sad. It's because, like me, they don't care a damn what the reviewers say. The difference is, whereas I ignore reviewers because I think most of them are idiots who wouldn't know a good game if it stabbed them in the throat with a shrimp fork, your average Nintendo fanboy ignores reviewers because the fanboy believes that anybody who criticises a Nintendo product does so because of some twisted anti-Nintendo bias, and not because the product actually has some flaws.

Daos · 11-17-2006, 11:23 PM

Most of the flaws they bring up have to do with using the Wii controller. Considering it's a port of the Gamecube version that's really not all that surprising. As has already been said though I don't take much stock in what critics (movie and videogames) say. I hardly ever agree with them anyways.
I'm a Nintendo fan, yes. However I expected the switch to Wii controls to be a bit clumsy. It was a very smart marketing move by Nintendo though which is the reason it was done.

**Cravdraa** · 11-18-2006, 12:19 AM

Personally, I think you should all be worried about the quality of TP.
I can state with absolute truth that I have been WRONG about every Zelda game I've ever developed an opinion about before it's release, dating all the way back to Link's Awakening. Without fail.

From what I've seen so far. I'm convinced that Twilight Princess is going to be awesome. Possibly one of the best games ever made. Now stop and think about that for a moment.

Koga · 11-18-2006, 03:49 AM

So what did you think about Wind Waker before its release?

**Wyborn** · 11-18-2006, 10:13 AM

How did I know before coming in here that the only review mentioned would be the statistical outlier? Go here and get a more complete picture, if you would. Right now it's the second-highest rated game of all time.

Not that I particularly care about what reviewers say, but try to look at the entire thing instead of one review.

The Missing Link · 11-18-2006, 07:15 PM

Zelda is not an 8.8 from what I've played so far. My personal experience with it so far is about a 9.5 or so. The controller takes a little getting used to, but it's getting very natural as I go through. My only real gripe is that the controller has a difficult time (or at least I have a difficult time of) differentiating between:

(1) Throw the object I'm holding. That is hold the controller vertically and fling forward, and
(2) Draw my sword (and consequentially) drop the thing I'm holding. That's a horizontal flick.

(This is rather inconvenient when wielding explosive thingies.)

There are a few antialiasing issues where vertical lines tend to get a little pixelated when you (i.e., the camera) is moving towards them or away from them, and I'm annoyed that Epona can't walk backwards (you have to rear her up and then she'll turn in place). Bust most of these are small things that a fanboy isn't primarily concerned about.

Granted, being so very little into the game (who'd have thought 7½ hours would be so little, but it's anywhere between 10-15%), I cannot fully give the game a score. But I do believe that the 8.8 is an outlier from someone who just didn't get it. That stuff happens.

Bomby · 11-18-2006, 07:32 PM

Biased topics are best left to me.

***CaptHayfever*** · 11-18-2006, 08:00 PM

Actually, it's always been my experience that the outliers should only be ignored when you have prior knowledge about the outliers that would compromise the validity of their data.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

**Wyborn** · 11-18-2006, 08:48 PM

Well, the reviewer in question has been hating on the Wii since day 1 in a way that makes Boo look like Potatamoto himself.

**Booyakasha** · 11-18-2006, 10:31 PM

Domo arigatou, Potatomoto/Mata au hima de
Domo arigatou, Potatomoto/Himitsu o shiri tai

You're wondering who I am.

The Missing Link · 11-19-2006, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Booyakasha

Domo arigatou, Potatomoto/Mata au hima de
Domo arigatou, Potatomoto/Himitsu o shiri tai

You're wondering who I am.

I knew it! You're Michael Jackson!

***CaptHayfever*** · 11-19-2006, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyborn

Well, the reviewer in question has been hating on the Wii since day 1 in a way that makes Boo look like Potatamoto himself.

Yup, that would do it, then.

And remember, "I'm-a Luigi, number one!"

Bomby · 11-19-2006, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Missing Link

I knew it! You're Michael Jackson!

What does Michael Jackson have to do with "Domo Araigato Mr. Roboto?"

Mama se mama sa ma ma ku sa
Mama se mama sa ma ma ku sa
Mama se mama sa ma ma ku sa
Mama se mama sa ma ma ku sa...

**Booyakasha** · 11-19-2006, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Missing Link

I knew it! You're Michael Jackson!

No, but I am a smooth criminal.

(EDIT: For your viewing pleasure--one of the worst things in the history of ever. You're welcome.)

Click to view video.

**Wyborn** · 11-23-2006, 05:37 PM

I'm about twenty-three hours in, beat dungeon five recently. I'm kinda flying through it though.

This game....holy Hell. So good.

Gatekeeper · 12-02-2006, 07:28 PM

The game is great; I'm at the castle right now and going around getting everything so the game doesn't end (I played about 45 hours last week and haven't had a chance this week).

So far, my only complaint is the music - very repetitive and the tracks aren't very long before they begin to loop. Unlike other Zelda games, there have been no tracks in this game that really stand out for me, except for the cowboy western theme when you have to talk to several cats in a town.

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Daos Banned Forum Mod Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Earth Gender: Posts: 5,096 Thanks: 64 Thanked 142 Times in 104 Posts Points: 36,273.20 Bank: 389,954.95 Total Points: 426,228.15 Donate	Most of the flaws they bring up have to do with using the Wii controller. Considering it's a port of the Gamecube version that's really not all that surprising. As has already been said though I don't take much stock in what critics (movie and videogames) say. I hardly ever agree with them anyways. I'm a Nintendo fan, yes. However I expected the switch to Wii controls to be a bit clumsy. It was a very smart marketing move by Nintendo though which is the reason it was done. __________________ I am terror, I am Daos.

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11-18-2006, 03:49 AM	#5
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,095 Thanks: 104 Thanked 186 Times in 117 Posts Points: 109,264.07 Bank: 25,861.92 Total Points: 135,125.99 Donate	So what did you think about Wind Waker before its release?

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Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,226.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,154.57 Donate	How did I know before coming in here that the only review mentioned would be the statistical outlier? Go here and get a more complete picture, if you would. Right now it's the second-highest rated game of all time. Not that I particularly care about what reviewers say, but try to look at the entire thing instead of one review.

11-18-2006, 07:15 PM	#7
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11-18-2006, 08:48 PM	#10
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,226.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,154.57 Donate	Well, the reviewer in question has been hating on the Wii since day 1 in a way that makes Boo look like Potatamoto himself.

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Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,226.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,154.57 Donate	I'm about twenty-three hours in, beat dungeon five recently. I'm kinda flying through it though. This game....holy Hell. So good.

12-02-2006, 07:28 PM	#17
Gatekeeper Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Gender: Posts: 286 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,313.78 Bank: 510.00 Total Points: 1,823.78 Donate	The game is great; I'm at the castle right now and going around getting everything so the game doesn't end (I played about 45 hours last week and haven't had a chance this week). So far, my only complaint is the music - very repetitive and the tracks aren't very long before they begin to loop. Unlike other Zelda games, there have been no tracks in this game that really stand out for me, except for the cowboy western theme when you have to talk to several cats in a town.