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Old 12-20-2006, 02:11 PM   #1
 
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Do you want the GC version of Twilight Princess? Better get it NOW!

Various sources everywhere are saying that nintendo is ALREADY abandoning the GC version of TP. More copies will not be made. They're not going to ship anymore to the stores either. Walmart has actually cancelled all backorders of the game and is refunding the money to anyone that held one. Other stores are doing it too.

Unbelievable. I can't think of a better way to piss off customers.





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Old 12-20-2006, 03:01 PM   #2
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Heh. Any Nintendo fans care to argue that this isn't an act of complete sold-out whoredom on Nintendo's part? Because I'd honestly love to hear someone defend this decision. Preferably somebody who's spent the past several years calling Sony and Microsoft soulless corporate money-grubbers who don't care about the fans.
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As a business decision it doesn't have to be defended. Apparently the Cube version isn't selling as well as the Wii version in the first place.

I hate to repeat this, but Nintendo doesn't owe any of the fans anything in this regard. I admit it would have been less dick-ish to just cancel the Cube version in the first place, though.

Oh well. Glad I got the Wii version.
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I'm glad I already got the GameCube version. I would've hated it if they had cancelled the Cube version altogether.
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Erm... no. The problem isn't that the GC version isn't selling. Most stores are completely sold out of both versions. There's clearly still a demand if larger retail chains had to backorder them. If it's having poor sales then it's because in many areas the Gamecube version was hard to find to begin with. The GC version's only been out for a week! Even if it was the worst selling Zelda game of all time, it'd still be going strong. Every store in my area had sold out of preorders for it over a month ago! The only reason I got a copy was because I took the day off from work and staked out a store that doesn't take preorders.

No, this is clearly more a case of people shouting "We want to buy it!" and Nintendo replying "No. Go buy the other version."





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This is a huge mistake on Nintendo's part, because since almost noone has a Wii in Texas/Fort Worth area because of shortages....This is just gonna rape the less-rich fanbase, like myself. Sadly, this is the only time that I'll say that Nintendo's decision sucks. *cries*
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GOD MOTHER FECKING DAMMIT! There go all chances of me getting TP for Christmas . Seriously though, I have almost nothing to add that wouldn't restate what other members have already said. DAMMIT NINTENDO!
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because since almost noone has a Wii in Texas/Fort Worth area because of shortages....*
I live in Nowhere, South Dakota, and I know of at least two other people that got a Wii. ON LAUNCH DATE. You people just aren't beating the eBay whores.
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I don't see anything anywhere. Source?
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I don't think Nintendo has had an official press release stating this is the case. However, a friend of mine who works at an EBGames told me a Nintendo rep had contacted them saying they were not going to produce any more copies for the GameCube just yesterday. So I think it is a safe assumption this is accurate info.
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Old 12-21-2006, 05:39 AM   #11
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If it's true (and until such places as Joystiq start talking about it, I'm automatically skeptical), whoop-de-effing-doo. This is hardly a mistake on Nintendo's part, and you know it. Anyone who has the audacity to say "Nintendo will rue the day they made this decision" is whining, and even worse, they know it too.

Nintendo has given up on the 'Cube. Let's face it; Twilight is the last game on the docket for it, and even if I'm wrong, it's easily the last first-party game for it. The 'Cube has been on its deathbed for at least six months if not longer. People were buying PS2s and 360s in droves. 'Cube wasn't cutting it, and since practically only the Nintendo faithful and the Nintendo disillusioned are the only ones to have a 'Cube, well... sales of the 'Cube version are automatically going to be less than the Wii version for four reasons:

(1) Twilight is a proof of concept that shows that the Wii is awesome and fun. There's so much marketing behind it the hype very nearly overshot how good the game was; it probably did ever so slightly. But people are happy with it, and that's the good thing. Personally, between Wii TP and GCN TP, it's a no brainer.
(2) The Nintendo faithful will get Wiis, Zelda or no. So why not let them get the better version anyway. Not selling the GCN Zelda won't hurt them in this market.
(3) The Nintendo disillusioned may or may not buy a Wii. Only those members who either have been in caves for a long time or are have completely lost their interest in all things Nintendo won't get it. Anyone who's been intrigued by the concept from the get go will be counting their pennies and nickels until they have enough to afford the package deal.
(4) Those who haven't played Zelda on 'Cube or those who don't own one but do own a Wii... well, cutting the GCN version doesn't hurt Nintendo at all.

Nintendo's going to pay? Ha. Every one of you will be getting a Wii, whether you already have one or not, whether you'll get it two days from now or a year later... every single one of you is going to own a Wii some day. And if Nintendo does cut GCN Zelda out of the mix, you'll all be buying Wii TP when you do.

So suck it up and stop whining. You'll be better off with the Wii version anyway.
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I still don't see how the Wii version is better than the GCN version. As far as I know the only difference is in the controls and the game being mirrored. I still think I wouldn't enjoy playing with the Wii controller as much. I had no problems whatsoever with the GameCube controls (which makes sense, because they're exactly the same as Wind Waker's).

Also, I think there are quite a few people who want to get TP for either system, but weren't able to get a Wii yet. Many of them already have a GameCube. Then there's the group of people (myself included) who have no intention of getting a Wii, but do want to play the latest Zelda adventure.
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The Wii controls are instantly superior for any targeting in the game, and they don't in the least limit your abilities or tire you otherwise. Its use was totally natural for me. Having actually used it to play entirely through Zelda, it's hard to see why you have anything against the controls. Perhaps the system is underpowered in comparison to the other nextgen systems, but I'd never even call the graphics of the Gamecube ugly by comparison to the others. It's not like a PSX to PS2 leap in technology, with the 360 and the PS3. It's just a slightly prettier version of what we've been playing all along.

I think I've heard you say that you're just not interested in gaming too much anymore, though, so I don't want to badger. I don't think you'll find it a lacking experience if you do, though.

I can see how any massive sales of the GCN version of Twilight could concern Nintendo. They probably look at all of the copies sold while the Wii version is sold out, and think "Those could be more Wii's sold!" ...doesn't stop me from wanting it, though. I've never put my faith in any of the big 3 from day one - they just want our money. Things change, and Nintendo just isn't the powerhouse they used to be.

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This means that I probably can't get TP until a few years from now when the Rev drops into my price range.

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Anybody else, on a random note, think that it's weird they had to mirror the entire world in order to mirror Link to match right-handed players? Maybe I'm just missing something here, but I imagine it wouldn't've broken the game to mirror just Link.
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Old 12-21-2006, 04:03 PM   #16
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Apparently it would have - something about screwing up hit boxes and movement patterns for enemies.
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This is hardly a mistake on Nintendo's part, and you know it.
Never said it was a mistake, sunshine--I said it was a dick move. Tell me it isn't.

I'm far too much of a mindless Sony fanboy to ever buy a Wii, and well should you know that by now, TML. If I can't get the GCN version of TP, I can do without--the sun has long set on the days when I would go out and buy a console on a whim. And again, I've never felt Zelda is something so unapproachably different that nothing else approximates it--I've played enough adventure games in my time (most recently 'Okami', which, incidentally, is more fun than a barrel of junkies) to know different.
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Like, maybe I'm missing something, but who would actually buy Twilight Princess on the GCN? If they're pulling it, good. It (GCN version) shouldn't have been made in the first place. The half-dozen people that this move will piss off are going to buy a Wii anyway and buy Twilight Princess on the same day.

I usually look for something to nitpick on, but even *I* don't care about this.

You got a Wii on launch date because you live in Nowhere, Whatever Dakota (it's all the same place anyway). Dallas-Ft. Worth is one of the biggest metro areas in the country. The 20 they send to CC/BB/TRU every shipment get spread across significantly more people than Nowhere, Dakota with its 2000 people and 500,000,000 cattle (and 6000 dogs).

I don't get the logic that they owe you a GCN version of Twilight Princess. What? Do they owe it to you because you sat it out on a system that was essentially stillborn that got a half-assed Mario game, a Celda, and a bunch of party games? I mean, really, this move (if true) will piss off 25 people on the Interweb. That's it. And as much as you say "OH NOW WERE ANGRY" it won't mean anything since they'll still sell you a Wii and you'll like it.

And you got this from an EB worker? Yeah guy, that's credible. EB/Gamestop employees are scumbags, and the only thing that separates them from the goons that work at Best Buy that tell old people that the PS3 can play Nintendo carts, Xbox games, and Atari 2600 tapes as well as laserdiscs are that they at least know what the systems play (sometimes). They lie, they push used games at exorbitant marked up prices, and they tell you things like "Oh yeah, we might have an extra copy of Gears of War if you put a deposit on a PS3/Wii and buy the strategy guide." I normally avoid places like Best Buy out of principle, but there's something to be said about going there the day of a release and having mountains of a game whereas the crap specialty stores have 15 copies for the idiots they conned into preordering.

Wy's pretty much right on mirroring the whole world. Seems easier to just do a total flip than to flip one character and readjust everything to fit the new right-handed link. And, btw, if you care about them switching his hand from left to right as a matter of lore, get a life.
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Many people(25 people over the interweb? Please) who already had the gamecube were thinking, "Alright! We get it to! The old-fashioned way even!" and now Nintendo is pretty much slapping that hope out of the air. Instead of paying 50 dollars for a video game, all of us gamecube owners will now have to pay the 250 dollars to buy a Wii. Now we don't even get to play TP while we save up! Although, all of our internet bitching isn't going to change anything in the minds of Nintendo Heads, if this move is even true that is.
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You were going to get a Wii anyway.
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