Favorite Enemies in Twilight Princess **SPOILERS** - Page 2

**Cravdraa** · 12-23-2006, 05:08 PM

For the record, the Iron Knuckles in AoL fought with sword and shield. The Iron Knuckle boss rode a metal horse, which was the only difference it had with a regular Iron Knuckle.

Chunky Kong12345 · 12-23-2006, 10:40 PM

Fine, Darknuts are the jackal things. Which means there's no Iron Knuckles in this.

**Wyborn** · 12-23-2006, 10:41 PM

Which these are not. :P

Chunky Kong12345 · 12-23-2006, 10:45 PM

Then what the **** are they?!

Edit:

This is a Darknut.

**Wyborn** · 12-23-2006, 11:07 PM

It's a human shape. The head is rounded. Same with when you knock off the outer layer of their armor - including, I believe, the outer part of the helmet.

It's an Iron Knuckle.

Chunky Kong12345 · 12-23-2006, 11:14 PM

I'm sorry, you fail, try again.

Wikipedia says it's a Darknut.

Don't try the Wikipedia isn't always right sht, because this is correct.

Edit: A key difference between the two enemies (in later Zelda titles) is that Iron Knuckles are often referred to as animated suits of armor, whereas Darknuts, under their armor, are humanoid dogs which resemble the Dobermann Pinscher.

Do you have a picture of what it looks like under the armor? No. The helmets in WW were regular type helmets, and they were dog-things there.

**Wyborn** · 12-23-2006, 11:16 PM

No, thanks, that reasoning doesn't work. Wikipedia says that because the guide says that - it's not canon enough to disprove the fat that they're empty suits of armor, with nothing alive inside of them. They're human-shaped. Not jackals. They're Iron Knuckles.

Now, you can either try to dispute that for real, or you can walk off.

**Wyborn** · 12-24-2006, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chunky Kong12345

I'm sorry, you fail, try again.

Wikipedia says it's a Darknut.

Don't try the Wikipedia isn't always right sht, because this is correct.

Edit: A key difference between the two enemies (in later Zelda titles) is that Iron Knuckles are often referred to as animated suits of armor, whereas Darknuts, under their armor, are humanoid dogs which resemble the Dobermann Pinscher.

Do you have a picture of what it looks like under the armor? No. The helmets in WW were regular type helmets, and they were dog-things there.

Oh good, you actually replied. Try putting it in another post next time, makes it easier to reply to. Yes, I'm double posting. No, I do not particularly care.

See above concerning Wikipedia.

Nice, you have reasoning that doesn't prove anything. Key difference here is that we can knock the outer helmet off of the Iron Knuckles here and they are wearing facemasks and chain-mail beneath it. The mask is even more human-shaped and rounded. A doberman's face sticks out too much for this to be possible, especially with how huge the iron Knuckles are in this game, and they are huge.

And of course we don't have pictures of what they're like under the armor. If we did, they would not be iron Knuckles. Thanks for the reasoning without a point, now try again.

**Cravdraa** · 12-24-2006, 09:46 PM

Not to further complicate things, but I'd just like to point out that Darknuts don't always have to look like dogs under the armor. Take Wizzrobes for example. In WW they're clearly some sort of bird-like creature. In other games this just doesn't seem to be the case. Likewise, Moblins look almost entirely different each game. Peahats too. Every reoccuring enemy seems to get a complete makeover to suit each new game's style.
The "iron knuckles" in TP don't seem to have anything inside them. As Wyborn and I have both stated, they seem to be nothing but living armor.

Aydzz12 · 12-24-2006, 10:23 PM

Every boss.

Benj1989 · 12-24-2006, 10:59 PM

Darknuts

zepatient · 12-27-2006, 08:55 PM

Why don't we just call every enemy, "that thing in that place with the stuff on it".

MC Luigi · 12-29-2006, 07:42 PM

Boss: Stallord
Miniboss: THIS STUPID ARGUEMENT! IT MAKES ME WANNA CALL THEM DARK IRON KNUCKLES, OR IRON DARKNUTS!!!!
Enemy: Dinolfos, they made a return from OoT. The Lizalfos have no armor and can be finished, while Dinolfos have tons of Armor and get up too fast to be finished. That's how you tell. Those with masks are wannabees.

zepatient · 12-30-2006, 10:25 AM

Iron-Nuts

MC Luigi · 01-02-2007, 07:39 PM

MC King Kong Mushi · 01-02-2007, 09:58 PM

Favorite enemy(so far) the goblin(moblin?) warlord riding a boar. The end of that fight was awsome.

**BEARD BURGER MASTER** · 01-02-2007, 10:40 PM

Unfortunately, Nintendo Power HAS called these guys "Dark Nuts". Of course, this IS Nintendo Power, so what do they know? >_> I still say they're Iron Knuckles.

For the record, fighting them in the Cave of Ordeals is the win.

Irkenwarrior12 · 01-02-2007, 11:10 PM

I'd just like to say:

WTF Magic Meter!?!? Where do you get THAT!?! I beat the Temple of Time, and I didn't have a magic meter.

DELICIOUS POISON · 01-03-2007, 06:06 AM

The guide calls the ball 'n chain warrior "Darkhammer". I'd rather go with calling the regular ones Darknuts after the first LoZ game (which I just played through again). Fighting them is remarkably similar to the originals

- you have to get behind them to do any damage.

Meanwhile, the guide refers to the green orc-like guys as "Bulblins". Makes more sense than calling them Moblins.

**BEARD BURGER MASTER** · 01-03-2007, 07:49 AM

I think the Helm Splitter works as well. Plus, Link never had the chance to actually get behind an Iron Knuckle in Ocarina of Time, seeing as he had no skills compared to Twilight Princess/Wind Waker Link, so Iron Knuckles may have a weakness in back.

Of course, the only sure-fire way to tell if it's an Iron Knuckle or Dark Nut...

SHANG! SHANG!

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01-02-2007, 09:58 PM	#36
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01-02-2007, 10:40 PM	#37
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01-03-2007, 06:06 AM	#39
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01-03-2007, 07:49 AM	#40
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12-23-2006, 05:08 PM	#21
Cravdraa VGF RPG Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 54 Thanked 210 Times in 141 Posts Points: 29,866.23 Bank: 2,004,930.94 Total Points: 2,034,797.17 Donate	For the record, the Iron Knuckles in AoL fought with sword and shield. The Iron Knuckle boss rode a metal horse, which was the only difference it had with a regular Iron Knuckle.

12-23-2006, 10:40 PM	#22
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,427 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 287.24 Bank: 273,473.57 Total Points: 273,760.81 Donate	Fine, Darknuts are the jackal things. Which means there's no Iron Knuckles in this.

12-23-2006, 10:41 PM	#23
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12-23-2006, 10:45 PM	#24
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,427 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 287.24 Bank: 273,473.57 Total Points: 273,760.81 Donate	Then what the **** are they?! Edit: This is a Darknut.

12-23-2006, 11:07 PM	#25
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,228.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,156.57 Donate	It's a human shape. The head is rounded. Same with when you knock off the outer layer of their armor - including, I believe, the outer part of the helmet. It's an Iron Knuckle.

12-23-2006, 11:14 PM	#26
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,427 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 287.24 Bank: 273,473.57 Total Points: 273,760.81 Donate	I'm sorry, you fail, try again. Wikipedia says it's a Darknut. Don't try the Wikipedia isn't always right sht, because this is correct. Edit: A key difference between the two enemies (in later Zelda titles) is that Iron Knuckles are often referred to as animated suits of armor, whereas Darknuts, under their armor, are humanoid dogs which resemble the Dobermann Pinscher. Do you have a picture of what it looks like under the armor? No. The helmets in WW were regular type helmets, and they were dog-things there.

12-23-2006, 11:16 PM	#27
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,228.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,156.57 Donate	No, thanks, that reasoning doesn't work. Wikipedia says that because the guide says that - it's not canon enough to disprove the fat that they're empty suits of armor, with nothing alive inside of them. They're human-shaped. Not jackals. They're Iron Knuckles. Now, you can either try to dispute that for real, or you can walk off.

12-24-2006, 09:46 PM	#29
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12-24-2006, 10:23 PM	#30
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12-24-2006, 10:59 PM	#31
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12-27-2006, 08:55 PM	#32
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12-29-2006, 07:42 PM	#33
MC Luigi Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: In YO FACE Gender: Posts: 1,033 Thanks: 41 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts Points: 11,049.64 Bank: 23,165.44 Total Points: 34,215.07 Donate	Boss: Stallord Miniboss: THIS STUPID ARGUEMENT! IT MAKES ME WANNA CALL THEM DARK IRON KNUCKLES, OR IRON DARKNUTS!!!! Enemy: Dinolfos, they made a return from OoT. The Lizalfos have no armor and can be finished, while Dinolfos have tons of Armor and get up too fast to be finished. That's how you tell. Those with masks are wannabees.

12-30-2006, 10:25 AM	#34
zepatient Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 3 days from next Wednesday Gender: Posts: 358 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 4,488.95 Bank: 2,006.47 Total Points: 6,495.42 Donate	Iron-Nuts

01-02-2007, 11:10 PM	#38
Irkenwarrior12 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Your mother's face. SNAP! Gender: Posts: 1,144 Thanks: 26 Thanked 23 Times in 18 Posts Points: 16,545.80 Bank: 2,729.79 Total Points: 19,275.59 Donate	I'd just like to say: WTF Magic Meter!?!? Where do you get THAT!?! I beat the Temple of Time, and I didn't have a magic meter.