Favorite Enemies in Twilight Princess **SPOILERS**

DELICIOUS POISON · 12-21-2006, 01:39 AM

So, for those of you who've played Twilight Princess:

Which enemies did you like the best?
Do you have a favorite?
Do you wish they would've included a particular enemy that they didn't?

I really loved all the little trolls and such, but it's easy for me to pick a few favorites;

The iron knuckles were just awesome, and pretty tough to fight. The helmasaurs were a perfect and very unexpected redesign. I also really liked the huge 'moblin' orc guy who keeps showing up again and again, more and more haggard from his continuing defeats. I really would love to see more backstory for him.

**Wyborn** · 12-21-2006, 02:03 AM

I'd give it to the Iron Knuckles: they're probably the ultimate incarnation of the enemy, and absolute bastards when it comes right down to it.

Do bosses count?

DELICIOUS POISON · 12-21-2006, 02:40 AM

Sure, bosses count. I don't see why not.

The Missing Link · 12-21-2006, 05:25 AM

The Darknuts were slick, and fighting two of them is the most painful experience I believe I have ever encountered. (I think I lost 15 hearts to them... thank you, Miss Fairy...)

However, the best boss was the boss from the Arbiter's Grounds. Twilit whatever the hell it was called.

Koga · 12-21-2006, 06:41 AM

I really liked that boss as well. The Darknuts were indeed impressive, especially if you have to fight two at once. I didn't lose that many hearts, though.

**Cravdraa** · 12-21-2006, 11:50 PM

I liked the helmasaurs as well. The iron knuckles were pretty insane.
I wish they'd included some octoroks. They've been in every other Zelda game to date, so it's unfortunate that they didn't make an appearance. Oh well.

**Wyborn** · 12-22-2006, 12:25 AM

My favorite boss....well, the finale, naturally. Every stage.

So very killer.

Zavval · 12-22-2006, 02:56 AM

Boss-wise was most definitely Stallord. I was amazed by how creatively designed that boss battle was.

As far as "regular" enemies go I'd have to say the Darknuts were my favorite. It's kind of ironic since I loathe Darknuts in the original LoZ, and in TP they're my favorite enemies.

DELICIOUS POISON · 12-22-2006, 05:49 AM

So were they actually Darknuts? I suppose that makes sense, with the helmet. Were there no Iron Knuckles, then? So confusing.

**Cravdraa** · 12-22-2006, 01:08 PM

I think the thing that had the ball and chain was the only Darknut.
Traditionally, the difference between the two is that the Iron knuckles are living suits of armor, where as the Darknuts are actually creatures.

Also, Darknuts must be struck from behind, while Iron knuckles can be damaged anywhere if you can get past their defenses.

Eitherway, they're fairly similar.

Btw, I also liked the little runners in south hyrule field that would drop those little ball/bomb things. It's too bad that was the only place they were used.

Chunky Kong12345 · 12-22-2006, 01:53 PM

Darknuts are in this?

Woo.

Out of curiosity, how much armor can be hit off them?

**Wyborn** · 12-22-2006, 03:26 PM

They're Iron Knuckles. And....a lot, actually, like when you fight Nabooru in OoT.

And, just like in there, it pissed them off very badly and makes them more dangerous.

You actually fight three of them simultaneously in the Cave of Ordeals.

The Missing Link · 12-22-2006, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyborn

They're Iron Knuckles. And....a lot, actually, like when you fight Nabooru in OoT.

The official Twilight Princess player's guide calls them Darknuts.

Truth be told, there's very little difference between a Darknut and an Iron Knuckles to begin with.

**Wyborn** · 12-22-2006, 09:21 PM

Look, I don't care what the strategy guide calls them. Mistakes are made in them. Strategy guides are about as cannon as fanfiction.

They're Iron Knuckles: there's nothing inside of the armor that we can see. They're literally living armor. Yes, they use swords, but they're still pretty apparently Iron Knuckles.

The Missing Link · 12-22-2006, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyborn

Look, I don't care what the strategy guide calls them. Mistakes are made in them. Strategy guides are about as cannon as fanfiction.

They're Iron Knuckles: there's nothing inside of the armor that we can see. They're literally living armor. Yes, they use swords, but they're still pretty apparently Iron Knuckles.

Douse it up however you like, Trebek. The question is does it work?

As far as I care, the two exist in a Fight Club fashion where they've never both appeared in the same game. There's heavy similarities between both of them, there's no standard definition for what defines one versus what defines the other, and Twilight doesn't specify what the things are called in game. As far as I care, Iron Knuckle and Darknut are effectively synonyms.

Chunky Kong12345 · 12-22-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyborn

Strategy guides are about as cannon as fanfiction.

Avast ye, matey! Fire off the port side! Yarrr!

Also, ...Um.

Darknuts and Iron Knuckles are two different enemies in the game.

And my question wasn't answered.

Zavval · 12-23-2006, 12:22 AM

I thought they were Darknuts since I can't remember an Iron Knuckle ever using a sword and shield. Though I don't remember what the Iron Knuckle boss in AoL looked like, the rest which are referred to as Iron Knuckles have always used giant axes.

I don't care though. The big dudes with lots of armor suffices for me.

The Missing Link · 12-23-2006, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chunky Kong12345

Darknuts and Iron Knuckles are two different enemies in the game.

Then you get to answer one of two questions:

(1) Which game had both?
(2) What is the difference between them?

Chunky Kong12345 · 12-23-2006, 11:41 AM

Fine.

Darknuts are the only ones in this game.

Iron Knuckles are the double blade axe wielders.

**Wyborn** · 12-23-2006, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chunky Kong12345

Fine.

Darknuts are the only ones in this game.

Iron Knuckles are the double blade axe wielders.

One could just as easily say that they are defined by the fact that Darknuts are living creatures inside armor, while the Iron Knuckles are just walking suits of armor in and of themselves. In that sense Nabooru wasn't a true Iron Knuckle, because she was a living person, but that doesn't change the fact that we have no reason to believe that there are anything inside these suits of armor.

Trying to define a creature based on the weapon it carries seems asinine. :P I'm going with Cravdraa here, the only 'Darknut' in thisg ame is the one wielding the ball and chain.

12-21-2006, 01:39 AM	#1
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,925 Thanks: 579 Thanked 1,777 Times in 873 Posts Points: 17,845.57 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,350.12 Donate	Favorite Enemies in Twilight Princess SPOILERS So, for those of you who've played Twilight Princess: Which enemies did you like the best? Do you have a favorite? Do you wish they would've included a particular enemy that they didn't? I really loved all the little trolls and such, but it's easy for me to pick a few favorites; The iron knuckles were just awesome, and pretty tough to fight. The helmasaurs were a perfect and very unexpected redesign. I also really liked the huge 'moblin' orc guy who keeps showing up again and again, more and more haggard from his continuing defeats. I really would love to see more backstory for him.

12-21-2006, 02:03 AM	#2
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,226.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,154.57 Donate	I'd give it to the Iron Knuckles: they're probably the ultimate incarnation of the enemy, and absolute bastards when it comes right down to it. Do bosses count?

12-21-2006, 02:40 AM	#3
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,925 Thanks: 579 Thanked 1,777 Times in 873 Posts Points: 17,845.57 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,350.12 Donate	Sure, bosses count. I don't see why not.

12-21-2006, 05:25 AM	#4
The Missing Link Professional Lurker Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: New Hyrule, Washington, US Gender: Posts: 15,755 Thanks: 108 Thanked 317 Times in 215 Posts Points: 17,579.91 Bank: 154,938.35 Total Points: 172,518.26 Donate	The Darknuts were slick, and fighting two of them is the most painful experience I believe I have ever encountered. (I think I lost 15 hearts to them... thank you, Miss Fairy...) However, the best boss was the boss from the Arbiter's Grounds. Twilit whatever the hell it was called.

12-21-2006, 06:41 AM	#5
Koga Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: The Netherlands Gender: Posts: 17,095 Thanks: 104 Thanked 186 Times in 117 Posts Points: 109,264.07 Bank: 25,861.92 Total Points: 135,125.99 Donate	I really liked that boss as well. The Darknuts were indeed impressive, especially if you have to fight two at once. I didn't lose that many hearts, though.

12-21-2006, 11:50 PM	#6
Cravdraa VGF RPG Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 54 Thanked 210 Times in 141 Posts Points: 29,860.23 Bank: 2,004,930.94 Total Points: 2,034,791.17 Donate	I liked the helmasaurs as well. The iron knuckles were pretty insane. I wish they'd included some octoroks. They've been in every other Zelda game to date, so it's unfortunate that they didn't make an appearance. Oh well.

12-22-2006, 12:25 AM	#7
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,226.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,154.57 Donate	My favorite boss....well, the finale, naturally. Every stage. So very killer.

12-22-2006, 02:56 AM	#8
Zavval Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Gender: Posts: 324 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 1,734.67 Bank: 743.27 Total Points: 2,477.94 Donate	Boss-wise was most definitely Stallord. I was amazed by how creatively designed that boss battle was. As far as "regular" enemies go I'd have to say the Darknuts were my favorite. It's kind of ironic since I loathe Darknuts in the original LoZ, and in TP they're my favorite enemies.

12-22-2006, 05:49 AM	#9
DELICIOUS POISON Retro Nintendo Supermod Art & Literature Mod Metroid Mod Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I rub my tilde all over your asterisk Gender: Posts: 16,925 Thanks: 579 Thanked 1,777 Times in 873 Posts Points: 17,845.57 Bank: 4,848,504.55 Total Points: 4,866,350.12 Donate	So were they actually Darknuts? I suppose that makes sense, with the helmet. Were there no Iron Knuckles, then? So confusing.

12-22-2006, 01:08 PM	#10
Cravdraa VGF RPG Mod Join Date: May 2001 Location: It's round on the sides and high in the middle Gender: Posts: 5,925 Thanks: 54 Thanked 210 Times in 141 Posts Points: 29,860.23 Bank: 2,004,930.94 Total Points: 2,034,791.17 Donate	I think the thing that had the ball and chain was the only Darknut. Traditionally, the difference between the two is that the Iron knuckles are living suits of armor, where as the Darknuts are actually creatures. Also, Darknuts must be struck from behind, while Iron knuckles can be damaged anywhere if you can get past their defenses. Eitherway, they're fairly similar. Btw, I also liked the little runners in south hyrule field that would drop those little ball/bomb things. It's too bad that was the only place they were used.

12-22-2006, 01:53 PM	#11
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,427 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 286.24 Bank: 273,473.57 Total Points: 273,759.81 Donate	Darknuts are in this? Woo. Out of curiosity, how much armor can be hit off them?

12-22-2006, 03:26 PM	#12
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,226.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,154.57 Donate	They're Iron Knuckles. And....a lot, actually, like when you fight Nabooru in OoT. And, just like in there, it pissed them off very badly and makes them more dangerous. You actually fight three of them simultaneously in the Cave of Ordeals.

12-22-2006, 09:21 PM	#14
Wyborn Zelda Mod Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: All over the place Gender: Posts: 12,333 Thanks: 86 Thanked 456 Times in 274 Posts Points: 21,226.80 Bank: 88,927.77 Total Points: 110,154.57 Donate	Look, I don't care what the strategy guide calls them. Mistakes are made in them. Strategy guides are about as cannon as fanfiction. They're Iron Knuckles: there's nothing inside of the armor that we can see. They're literally living armor. Yes, they use swords, but they're still pretty apparently Iron Knuckles.

12-23-2006, 12:22 AM	#17
Zavval Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Gender: Posts: 324 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Points: 1,734.67 Bank: 743.27 Total Points: 2,477.94 Donate	I thought they were Darknuts since I can't remember an Iron Knuckle ever using a sword and shield. Though I don't remember what the Iron Knuckle boss in AoL looked like, the rest which are referred to as Iron Knuckles have always used giant axes. I don't care though. The big dudes with lots of armor suffices for me.

12-23-2006, 11:41 AM	#19
Chunky Kong12345 HIKARI NI NARA!!! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: ogmftwbqq Gender: Posts: 17,427 Thanks: 79 Thanked 364 Times in 264 Posts Points: 286.24 Bank: 273,473.57 Total Points: 273,759.81 Donate	Fine. Darknuts are the only ones in this game. Iron Knuckles are the double blade axe wielders.