The Double Timeline Theory (WW spoilers) - Page 7

christina · 06-10-2003, 09:06 PM

I already posted my thoughts on that theory of your in the other topic.

The Sages Seal and Wise Men's Seal is the same thing from what I understood. In OOT, the current Sages did not create a seal. They merely reclosed the one already created by the former sages.

christina · 06-10-2003, 09:06 PM

I already posted my thoughts on that theory of your in the other topic.

The Sages Seal and Wise Men's Seal is the same thing from what I understood. In OOT, the current Sages did not create a seal. They merely reclosed the one already created by the former sages.

Mikey · 06-10-2003, 10:29 PM

Two things tell us that they are not the same. One, in LttP the King commanded the Wise Men to seal the Sacred Realm off from the Light World. In OoT Zelda and Rayru give the word to seal Ganondorf in the Void of the Evil Realm. A void mind you, not a world.

Second is Rayru's mention of the Temple of Light. He said it was created long ago to deter outsiders from entering the Sacred Realm. He mentioned this BEFORE all the Sages were awake, and casted their own seal.

This proves that the Temple of Light was the Wise Men's seal and the seal on Ganondorf was the Sages seal. Two different seals by two different groups of people.

Get a nightlife.

Mikey · 06-10-2003, 10:29 PM

Two things tell us that they are not the same. One, in LttP the King commanded the Wise Men to seal the Sacred Realm off from the Light World. In OoT Zelda and Rayru give the word to seal Ganondorf in the Void of the Evil Realm. A void mind you, not a world.

Second is Rayru's mention of the Temple of Light. He said it was created long ago to deter outsiders from entering the Sacred Realm. He mentioned this BEFORE all the Sages were awake, and casted their own seal.

This proves that the Temple of Light was the Wise Men's seal and the seal on Ganondorf was the Sages seal. Two different seals by two different groups of people.

Get a nightlife.

christina · 06-11-2003, 02:29 AM

The Temple of Light is a place. Not a seal. Albeit it may have the original Sages Seal on it on it and all... But I'm not sure if it's for the same reasons. I've never gave much thought to the Temple of Light. It was simply there to be there for me.

This is how I see it. I think of all the temples as computers and the Temple of Light is some sort of super computer or mainframe the connects as the computers together. The original Sages Seal was some sort of password that protects the mainframe. An inhackable password. Link knew the password to get in, logged in. Lets say he left his computer on while he was still logged in, Ganondoref was able to log in into the mainframe because Link had already put the password in and left the mainframe open and vulnerable. Or at least that's how I see it.

[ June 11, 2003, 02:42 AM: Message edited by: Pedro, the Wind Demon ]

christina · 06-11-2003, 02:29 AM

The Temple of Light is a place. Not a seal. Albeit it may have the original Sages Seal on it on it and all... But I'm not sure if it's for the same reasons. I've never gave much thought to the Temple of Light. It was simply there to be there for me.

This is how I see it. I think of all the temples as computers and the Temple of Light is some sort of super computer or mainframe the connects as the computers together. The original Sages Seal was some sort of password that protects the mainframe. An inhackable password. Link knew the password to get in, logged in. Lets say he left his computer on while he was still logged in, Ganondoref was able to log in into the mainframe because Link had already put the password in and left the mainframe open and vulnerable. Or at least that's how I see it.

[ June 11, 2003, 02:42 AM: Message edited by: Pedro, the Wind Demon ]

Mikey · 06-11-2003, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pedro, the Wind Demon:
The Temple of Light is a place. Not a seal. Albeit it may have the original Sages Seal on it on it and all... But I'm not sure if it's for the same reasons. I've never gave much thought to the Temple of Light. It was simply there to be there for me.

This is how I see it. I think of all the temples as computers and the Temple of Light is some sort of super computer or mainframe the connects as the computers together. The original Sages Seal was some sort of password that protects the mainframe. An inhackable password. Link knew the password to get in, logged in. Lets say he left his computer on while he was still logged in, Ganondoref was able to log in into the mainframe because Link had already put the password in and left the mainframe open and vulnerable. Or at least that's how I see it.

The bank is a place, yet it seals money in it's vault. The Temple of Light is both a place and a seal. Link opened the safe, and Ganondorf robbed it.

Get a nightlife.

Mikey · 06-11-2003, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pedro, the Wind Demon:
The Temple of Light is a place. Not a seal. Albeit it may have the original Sages Seal on it on it and all... But I'm not sure if it's for the same reasons. I've never gave much thought to the Temple of Light. It was simply there to be there for me.

This is how I see it. I think of all the temples as computers and the Temple of Light is some sort of super computer or mainframe the connects as the computers together. The original Sages Seal was some sort of password that protects the mainframe. An inhackable password. Link knew the password to get in, logged in. Lets say he left his computer on while he was still logged in, Ganondoref was able to log in into the mainframe because Link had already put the password in and left the mainframe open and vulnerable. Or at least that's how I see it.

The bank is a place, yet it seals money in it's vault. The Temple of Light is both a place and a seal. Link opened the safe, and Ganondorf robbed it.

Get a nightlife.

christina · 06-13-2003, 07:00 PM

Okay, if we're going to get technical here: It's the VAULT DOOR that sseals up the money. The bank is the building were the money is kept. You're confusing a lock with a building.

christina · 06-13-2003, 07:00 PM

Okay, if we're going to get technical here: It's the VAULT DOOR that sseals up the money. The bank is the building were the money is kept. You're confusing a lock with a building.

Mikey · 06-13-2003, 11:34 PM

No I'm not. Besides, a vault door is nothing without the 4 walls, ceiling and floor of the room.

[ June 13, 2003, 11:41 PM: Message edited by: Mikey ]

Mikey · 06-13-2003, 11:34 PM

No I'm not. Besides, a vault door is nothing without the 4 walls, ceiling and floor of the room.

[ June 13, 2003, 11:41 PM: Message edited by: Mikey ]

christina · 06-15-2003, 02:27 AM

Okay Mikey. Whatever you say. locks and seals aside I think I've got it figured out this time. The events of ooT's dark future did not take place in Dark Land like I previously thought. They actually happened in the real Hyrule. When Link was sent back to his original time, the timeline didn't split. But the seven years in which Ganon ruled was indeed erased. But this does not mean the future of ooT was erased either. Nor does it mean WW was canceled out from existing. To understand what i mean, you need to understand how time actually works in hyrule. Link goes into the past, plants a seed, returns to the future and finds a hover plant in it's place. The future was never erased. It's history was merely rewrittened. When Zelda sent Link back to the past for the last time, he was sent to the exact moment after Ganon had entered the sacred realm, but before he exited, thus sealing him up inside. This changed changed things in the future as if the seven years of Ganondorf's rule never existed. The castle sudenly appeared from the ruins of Ganon's fortress. Hyrule Castle Town turned back into it's busy, bustling self. As he placed down the sword, the road between future and past was closed pernamently and history was rewritten for the last time. Zelda still remembered those horrid seven years of darkness. Yet she still remembered saying goodbye to Link as he went off on a personal journey as well. Which explains the reference to MM's prologue. Sounds confusing? Watch Frequency then. It gives a very example of what I'm talking about here.

[ June 15, 2003, 04:38 AM: Message edited by: Pedro, the Wind Demon ]

christina · 06-15-2003, 02:27 AM

Okay Mikey. Whatever you say. locks and seals aside I think I've got it figured out this time. The events of ooT's dark future did not take place in Dark Land like I previously thought. They actually happened in the real Hyrule. When Link was sent back to his original time, the timeline didn't split. But the seven years in which Ganon ruled was indeed erased. But this does not mean the future of ooT was erased either. Nor does it mean WW was canceled out from existing. To understand what i mean, you need to understand how time actually works in hyrule. Link goes into the past, plants a seed, returns to the future and finds a hover plant in it's place. The future was never erased. It's history was merely rewrittened. When Zelda sent Link back to the past for the last time, he was sent to the exact moment after Ganon had entered the sacred realm, but before he exited, thus sealing him up inside. This changed changed things in the future as if the seven years of Ganondorf's rule never existed. The castle sudenly appeared from the ruins of Ganon's fortress. Hyrule Castle Town turned back into it's busy, bustling self. As he placed down the sword, the road between future and past was closed pernamently and history was rewritten for the last time. Zelda still remembered those horrid seven years of darkness. Yet she still remembered saying goodbye to Link as he went off on a personal journey as well. Which explains the reference to MM's prologue. Sounds confusing? Watch Frequency then. It gives a very example of what I'm talking about here.

[ June 15, 2003, 04:38 AM: Message edited by: Pedro, the Wind Demon ]

06-10-2003, 09:06 PM	#121
christina Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: texas Gender: Posts: 4 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Points: 1,231.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,731.00 Donate	I already posted my thoughts on that theory of your in the other topic. The Sages Seal and Wise Men's Seal is the same thing from what I understood. In OOT, the current Sages did not create a seal. They merely reclosed the one already created by the former sages.

06-10-2003, 09:06 PM	#122
christina Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: texas Gender: Posts: 4 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Points: 1,231.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,731.00 Donate	I already posted my thoughts on that theory of your in the other topic. The Sages Seal and Wise Men's Seal is the same thing from what I understood. In OOT, the current Sages did not create a seal. They merely reclosed the one already created by the former sages.

06-10-2003, 10:29 PM	#123
Mikey Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 785 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,002.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,502.00 Donate	Two things tell us that they are not the same. One, in LttP the King commanded the Wise Men to seal the Sacred Realm off from the Light World. In OoT Zelda and Rayru give the word to seal Ganondorf in the Void of the Evil Realm. A void mind you, not a world. Second is Rayru's mention of the Temple of Light. He said it was created long ago to deter outsiders from entering the Sacred Realm. He mentioned this BEFORE all the Sages were awake, and casted their own seal. This proves that the Temple of Light was the Wise Men's seal and the seal on Ganondorf was the Sages seal. Two different seals by two different groups of people. Get a nightlife.

06-10-2003, 10:29 PM	#124
Mikey Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 785 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,002.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,502.00 Donate	Two things tell us that they are not the same. One, in LttP the King commanded the Wise Men to seal the Sacred Realm off from the Light World. In OoT Zelda and Rayru give the word to seal Ganondorf in the Void of the Evil Realm. A void mind you, not a world. Second is Rayru's mention of the Temple of Light. He said it was created long ago to deter outsiders from entering the Sacred Realm. He mentioned this BEFORE all the Sages were awake, and casted their own seal. This proves that the Temple of Light was the Wise Men's seal and the seal on Ganondorf was the Sages seal. Two different seals by two different groups of people. Get a nightlife.

06-11-2003, 02:29 AM	#125
christina Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: texas Gender: Posts: 4 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Points: 1,231.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,731.00 Donate	The Temple of Light is a place. Not a seal. Albeit it may have the original Sages Seal on it on it and all... But I'm not sure if it's for the same reasons. I've never gave much thought to the Temple of Light. It was simply there to be there for me. This is how I see it. I think of all the temples as computers and the Temple of Light is some sort of super computer or mainframe the connects as the computers together. The original Sages Seal was some sort of password that protects the mainframe. An inhackable password. Link knew the password to get in, logged in. Lets say he left his computer on while he was still logged in, Ganondoref was able to log in into the mainframe because Link had already put the password in and left the mainframe open and vulnerable. Or at least that's how I see it. [ June 11, 2003, 02:42 AM: Message edited by: Pedro, the Wind Demon ]

06-11-2003, 02:29 AM	#126
christina Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: texas Gender: Posts: 4 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Points: 1,231.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,731.00 Donate	The Temple of Light is a place. Not a seal. Albeit it may have the original Sages Seal on it on it and all... But I'm not sure if it's for the same reasons. I've never gave much thought to the Temple of Light. It was simply there to be there for me. This is how I see it. I think of all the temples as computers and the Temple of Light is some sort of super computer or mainframe the connects as the computers together. The original Sages Seal was some sort of password that protects the mainframe. An inhackable password. Link knew the password to get in, logged in. Lets say he left his computer on while he was still logged in, Ganondoref was able to log in into the mainframe because Link had already put the password in and left the mainframe open and vulnerable. Or at least that's how I see it. [ June 11, 2003, 02:42 AM: Message edited by: Pedro, the Wind Demon ]

06-13-2003, 07:00 PM	#129
christina Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: texas Gender: Posts: 4 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Points: 1,231.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,731.00 Donate	Okay, if we're going to get technical here: It's the VAULT DOOR that sseals up the money. The bank is the building were the money is kept. You're confusing a lock with a building.

06-13-2003, 07:00 PM	#130
christina Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: texas Gender: Posts: 4 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Points: 1,231.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,731.00 Donate	Okay, if we're going to get technical here: It's the VAULT DOOR that sseals up the money. The bank is the building were the money is kept. You're confusing a lock with a building.

06-13-2003, 11:34 PM	#131
Mikey Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 785 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,002.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,502.00 Donate	No I'm not. Besides, a vault door is nothing without the 4 walls, ceiling and floor of the room. [ June 13, 2003, 11:41 PM: Message edited by: Mikey ]

06-13-2003, 11:34 PM	#132
Mikey Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 785 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Points: 1,002.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,502.00 Donate	No I'm not. Besides, a vault door is nothing without the 4 walls, ceiling and floor of the room. [ June 13, 2003, 11:41 PM: Message edited by: Mikey ]

06-15-2003, 02:27 AM	#133
christina Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: texas Gender: Posts: 4 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Points: 1,231.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,731.00 Donate	Okay Mikey. Whatever you say. locks and seals aside I think I've got it figured out this time. The events of ooT's dark future did not take place in Dark Land like I previously thought. They actually happened in the real Hyrule. When Link was sent back to his original time, the timeline didn't split. But the seven years in which Ganon ruled was indeed erased. But this does not mean the future of ooT was erased either. Nor does it mean WW was canceled out from existing. To understand what i mean, you need to understand how time actually works in hyrule. Link goes into the past, plants a seed, returns to the future and finds a hover plant in it's place. The future was never erased. It's history was merely rewrittened. When Zelda sent Link back to the past for the last time, he was sent to the exact moment after Ganon had entered the sacred realm, but before he exited, thus sealing him up inside. This changed changed things in the future as if the seven years of Ganondorf's rule never existed. The castle sudenly appeared from the ruins of Ganon's fortress. Hyrule Castle Town turned back into it's busy, bustling self. As he placed down the sword, the road between future and past was closed pernamently and history was rewritten for the last time. Zelda still remembered those horrid seven years of darkness. Yet she still remembered saying goodbye to Link as he went off on a personal journey as well. Which explains the reference to MM's prologue. Sounds confusing? Watch Frequency then. It gives a very example of what I'm talking about here. [ June 15, 2003, 04:38 AM: Message edited by: Pedro, the Wind Demon ]

06-15-2003, 02:27 AM	#134
christina Newbie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: texas Gender: Posts: 4 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Points: 1,231.00 Bank: 500.00 Total Points: 1,731.00 Donate	Okay Mikey. Whatever you say. locks and seals aside I think I've got it figured out this time. The events of ooT's dark future did not take place in Dark Land like I previously thought. They actually happened in the real Hyrule. When Link was sent back to his original time, the timeline didn't split. But the seven years in which Ganon ruled was indeed erased. But this does not mean the future of ooT was erased either. Nor does it mean WW was canceled out from existing. To understand what i mean, you need to understand how time actually works in hyrule. Link goes into the past, plants a seed, returns to the future and finds a hover plant in it's place. The future was never erased. It's history was merely rewrittened. When Zelda sent Link back to the past for the last time, he was sent to the exact moment after Ganon had entered the sacred realm, but before he exited, thus sealing him up inside. This changed changed things in the future as if the seven years of Ganondorf's rule never existed. The castle sudenly appeared from the ruins of Ganon's fortress. Hyrule Castle Town turned back into it's busy, bustling self. As he placed down the sword, the road between future and past was closed pernamently and history was rewritten for the last time. Zelda still remembered those horrid seven years of darkness. Yet she still remembered saying goodbye to Link as he went off on a personal journey as well. Which explains the reference to MM's prologue. Sounds confusing? Watch Frequency then. It gives a very example of what I'm talking about here. [ June 15, 2003, 04:38 AM: Message edited by: Pedro, the Wind Demon ]